[Spoilers] That Jutsu Finally revealed.

[yoshimitsu]

**** my couch that's probably not dave chappelle. and if so, iso more tyrone sketches.

 

[System001]

I always thought naruto would one day maybe learn FTG but i never thought it would be "that Jutsu"

 

[Neloangelo13]

him i think she was refering to madara
we will save that tech. for madara
we will use that tech. against madara

Dis ^^

Since when Tsunade refers to Naruto in the third person? The only one that has been referred as "HIM" is Tobi. Quit the scenarios plx.
FTG is the only technique that can "touch" Tobi since the only time that u can touch him is when he is about to strike. He has to materialize in order to hit someone hence the usage of FTG. So keeping it secret was kind of a "secret weapon" against him.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

lol sorry for off subject but i know people watching this thread so id get a good answer
i read narutopedia on the seal you talking about and your right n thanks.... he moved the kyubi ying to the demon seal, naruto got the yang, now my thing is if it was the so6p who split ten tails into nine beasts (dividing his power) how in the world can ten tails be revived if they only get half of nine tails?

That is a really great question. Minato must have known something we all don't, I mean he sealed the Kyuubi into his son and KNEW it would render Naruto as an outcast who would grow up in a life of solitude but did it to combat Tobi. Like I wrote I think Tsunade knows something and that something is not only speed being able to counter IWR/Edo-Tensei/Tobi's S/T Ninjutsu but so does Dead Demon Consuming Seal which I am sure she know's since FTG was passed down (as was the DDCS to Sarutobi and probably Tsunade as well). Then again back to your point, they must know a way to bring back the yin half of the Kyuubi or maybe they do not need it. Very, very good point I never thought of that and I haven't seen anyone point that out yet. One thing I also always wondered and Chapelle I would like to get your input on this, why do you think the Allied Shinobi Force hasn't used Edo-Tensei themselves, I mean it was created by Tobirama who was a Hokage and a good guy and I know it was a kinjutsu and blasphemous but still I would feel that every rule/moral is out the window as long as the world is saved.

 

[-The Agent-]

Dis ^^

Since when Tsunade refers to Naruto in the third person? The only one that has been referred as "HIM" is Tobi. Quit the scenarios plx.
FTG is the only technique that can "touch" Tobi since the only time that u can touch him is when he is about to strike. He has to materialize in order to hit someone hence the usage of FTG. So keeping it secret was kind of a "secret weapon" against him.

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SINCE WHEN does Kabuto and Madara referring to Tobi as HIM equate to Tsunade referring to him as Tobi as well. That does not make sense. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because Madara and Kabuto say Him in reference to Tobi doesnt mean that Tsunade is referencing Tobi as well.
The manga even made it obvious she was referring to Naruto... You agreed with the person who said they are saving FTG for Madara. What would FTG do against an Edo Tensei? Warp him to another place on earth so he can destroy that with meteors as well??? Tsunade wouldn't save a technique for Madara.

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They are saving FTG obviously to use against Tobi but who is going to use it?!?!?! Not the 3 guards who are the only people who know how to use it now... It's obviously going to be Naruto.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

Dis ^^

Since when Tsunade refers to Naruto in the third person? The only one that has been referred as "HIM" is Tobi. Quit the scenarios plx.
FTG is the only technique that can "touch" Tobi since the only time that u can touch him is when he is about to strike. He has to materialize in order to hit someone hence the usage of FTG. So keeping it secret was kind of a "secret weapon" against him.

I wrote this too in one of my post's on this thread, I do agree that HIM wasn't Naruto but I do think that Minato and everyone else left FTG for Naruto to master along with KM (Kyuubi Mode). Yes he is already fast in KM but it only makes sense, right now he is only able to get clones to each battlefield but with KM + FTG he would just have someone in each division hold a Kunai (similar to what Minato did in Kakashi Gaiden) and he would teleport to the battlefield. Because no matter how fast A/Raikage might be with his lightning release armor or Naruto might be in KM, you cant beat teleportation to one place in an instant and then on to the next battlefield then on to the next, etc...

Naruto has learned Rasengan which Minato wanted to master by adding elemental capabilities to it, Naruto mastered it. Minato clearly built a key (Gerotora the Toad) so Naruto could one day access KM which Minato left to Jirayai and then Jirayai left to Naruto. It would only make sense for him to learn FTG, but I think the word "master" is wrong in this case because I can't see their being anything better than FTG2 (Minato used it against Tobi when he teleports to his kunai mid-air) unless FTG3 is like everyone else said instant transmission to wherever and somehow the formula is stamped on the entire planet

 

[-The Agent-]

That is a really great question. Minato must have known something we all don't, I mean he sealed the Kyuubi into his son and KNEW it would render Naruto as an outcast who would grow up in a life of solitude but did it to combat Tobi. Like I wrote I think Tsunade knows something and that something is not only speed being able to counter IWR/Edo-Tensei/Tobi's S/T Ninjutsu but so does Dead Demon Consuming Seal which I am sure she know's since FTG was passed down (as was the DDCS to Sarutobi and probably Tsunade as well). Then again back to your point, they must know a way to bring back the yin half of the Kyuubi or maybe they do not need it. Very, very good point I never thought of that and I haven't seen anyone point that out yet. One thing I also always wondered and Chapelle I would like to get your input on this, why do you think the Allied Shinobi Force hasn't used Edo-Tensei themselves, I mean it was created by Tobirama who was a Hokage and a good guy and I know it was a kinjutsu and blasphemous but still I would feel that every rule/moral is out the window as long as the world is saved.

I agree there is something we don't know about the Dean Demon Seal that will probably be revealed sooner rather then later. There either has to be a way to reverse summon with the DDS or else Tobi's plan is a complete waste without the full chakra of the 9 tails.

I think the allied shinobi force hasn't used Edo tensei for two reason.
1) Nobody knows how to use the technique. Only 3 people could use it, and according to Tobirama you have to be really strong to use the technique anyways.
2) It is labeled a forbidden technique so nobody has bothered to learn it, other then orochimaru who passed it down to Kabuto. Forbidden scrolls are locked are locked away and guarded so it's possible that Konoha won't allow people to learn the technique.

3)Even if someone could use the technique it destroys the balance of life and death. Even though he was a Hokage I don't think he was a good guy just because he created that technique. Why would some one good create a technique with such a horrible purpose?

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With that as the original purpose why would anybody bother to use that attack if it meant you were going to die. Orochimaru was the one who found an alternative and improved Edo Tensei.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

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SINCE WHEN does Kabuto and Madara referring to Tobi as HIM equate to Tsunade referring to him as Tobi as well. That does not make sense. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because Madara and Kabuto say Him in reference to Tobi doesnt mean that Tsunade is referencing Tobi as well.
The manga even made it obvious she was referring to Naruto... You agreed with the person who said they are saving FTG for Madara. What would FTG do against an Edo Tensei? Warp him to another place on earth so he can destroy that with meteors as well??? Tsunade wouldn't save a technique for Madara.

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They are saving FTG obviously to use against Tobi but who is going to use it?!?!?! Not the 3 guards who are the only people who know how to use it now... It's obviously going to be Naruto.

Also a good point and also (even though I don't agree that Tsunade was talking about Naruto, but you did prove that third person theory wrong very nicely) Kishi is the ultimate troll, if Tsunade was talking about Naruto she wouldn't just say "No we are going to save FTG for Naruto" because then we wouldn't all be on here talking about it xd , but seriously we would all know that now Naruto is gonna learn it and that wouldn't be Kishi's style. It's like everyone on here arguing now that Sasuke is gonna learn Rinnegan, it's not his style to come right out and ruin stuff like that ESPECIALLY when it comes to his main character(s), like I said and I think Chapelle has already said it and would agree, Kishi is the ultimate troll who just keeps trolling us b/c if he didn't we wouldn't have forums like this.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

I agree there is something we don't know about the Dean Demon Seal that will probably be revealed sooner rather then later. There either has to be a way to reverse summon with the DDS or else Tobi's plan is a complete waste without the full chakra of the 9 tails.

I think the allied shinobi force hasn't used Edo tensei for two reason.
1) Nobody knows how to use the technique. Only 3 people could use it, and according to Tobirama you have to be really strong to use the technique anyways.
2) It is labeled a forbidden technique so nobody has bothered to learn it, other then orochimaru who passed it down to Kabuto. Forbidden scrolls are locked are locked away and guarded so it's possible that Konoha won't allow people to learn the technique.

3)Even if someone could use the technique it destroys the balance of life and death. Even though he was a Hokage I don't think he was a good guy just because he created that technique. Why would some one good create a technique with such a horrible purpose?

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With that as the original purpose why would anybody bother to use that attack if it meant you were going to die. Orochimaru was the one who found an alternative and improved Edo Tensei.

Oh I didn't mean the Tobirama was a good guy because he made Edo-Tensei I just meant he was a good guy in the sense that he was a Hokage and from what we know was a true shinobi who sacrificed his life so his squad could live. I just meant since Tobirama was a good guy/shinobi and created the technique and everything that he was able to create it and they should play fire with fire. But overall good reasons.

Also, I was actually gonna make a thread about that page. Look at what Edo-Madara says on the top right. "Of course the IWR was originally intended to be used to wipe the map clean, along with the caster...We'll be regenerated soon enough." I re-read this last night and thought WTF? What do you think?

EDIT: Yeah the DDS has to be something we are gonna see a lot of I feel like. It is one of the only ways to counter IWR/Edo-Tensei as shown when Sarutobi uses it against Hashirama and Tobirama, but who is gonna be willing to sacrifice themselves?

 

[Neloangelo13]

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SINCE WHEN does Kabuto and Madara referring to Tobi as HIM equate to Tsunade referring to him as Tobi as well. That does not make sense. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because Madara and Kabuto say Him in reference to Tobi doesnt mean that Tsunade is referencing Tobi as well.
The manga even made it obvious she was referring to Naruto... You agreed with the person who said they are saving FTG for Madara. What would FTG do against an Edo Tensei? Warp him to another place on earth so he can destroy that with meteors as well??? Tsunade wouldn't save a technique for Madara.

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They are saving FTG obviously to use against Tobi but who is going to use it?!?!?! Not the 3 guards who are the only people who know how to use it now... It's obviously going to be Naruto.

The thing is that i never said that FTG is a counter to Edo-Tensei. Its a counter for Tobi's Space - Time Technique which makes him intangible. Re - read my post mate. I explained it step by step

 

[-The Agent-]

Also a good point and also (even though I don't agree that Tsunade was talking about Naruto, but you did prove that third person theory wrong very nicely) Kishi is the ultimate troll, if Tsunade was talking about Naruto she wouldn't just say "No we are going to save FTG for Naruto" because then we wouldn't all be on here talking about it xd , but seriously we would all know that now Naruto is gonna learn it and that wouldn't be Kishi's style. It's like everyone on here arguing now that Sasuke is gonna learn Rinnegan, it's not his style to come right out and ruin stuff like that ESPECIALLY when it comes to his main character(s), like I said and I think Chapelle has already said it and would agree, Kishi is the ultimate troll who just keeps trolling us b/c if he didn't we wouldn't have forums like this.

Lol this whole war has been one big Trollfest by Kishimoto. I think the biggest troll moment was with Itachi. Itachi's crow comes out of Naruto's mouth. We go crazy thinking its some new amazing power. In reality it is a genjutsu that is used on Itachi, but is not rendered useless, and then Itachi is like " xd JK you don't need that power anyways".

Oh I didn't mean the Tobirama was a good guy because he made Edo-Tensei I just meant he was a good guy in the sense that he was a Hokage and from what we know was a true shinobi who sacrificed his life so his squad could live. I just meant since Tobirama was a good guy/shinobi and created the technique and everything that he was able to create it and they should play fire with fire. But overall good reasons.

Also, I was actually gonna make a thread about that page. Look at what Edo-Madara says on the top right. "Of course the IWR was originally intended to be used to wipe the map clean, along with the caster...We'll be regenerated soon enough." I re-read this last night and thought WTF? What do you think?

Oh yeah I know. I was just saying he may have been a good person for the village but he was not a good person over all. Even if he was Hokage. For example Hiruzen was a good person for the village, and a good person over all who wanted peace with other villages as well.

I actually agree with you, fight fire with fire but you would have to go grave digging. That's disrespectful to the person who passed away. Like you would never see Shikamaru dig up Asuma's grave to get his DNA to use in the war.
And that it also requires a human sacrifice which is also disrespectful to use a person to revive another. In Naruto I think its just more on morality, and the value of life and death.

About Madara's quote I was like "WTF" too! I really hope he explains more about Edo Tensei.

 

[wallie20]

When did A get his arm back?

 

[Neloangelo13]

561 chapter page #2
IWR was created to wipe out everything along with the caster. It wasnt supposed to be a weapon against someone. It was created as a last measure from Tobirama.
Orochimaru and Kabuto used it for the wrong cause.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

561 chapter page #2
IWR was created to wipe out everything along with the caster. It wasnt supposed to be a weapon against someone. It was created as a last measure from Tobirama.
Orochimaru and Kabuto used it for the wrong cause.

What you are doing is pretty much paraphrasing, and I am not saying your wrong but that seems too easy. I could say based on the quote that Kabuto will soon die and everyone he regenerated will come back for good but I don't think it easy that easy and also I don't think Tobirama created it as a last ditch effort because he labeled it a Kinjutsu not to be used by anyone. If what you said is correct that IWR was created to wipe out everything then what is the regeneration comment he says right after that? I think Tobirama created it, obviously knew something we didn't which that whole quote Madara said which is hinting to us and also Madara himself even saw it as a complete atrocity, so we can speculate that if even Madara saw it was an atrocity there must be some other secrets to it.

Yeah those are some great points Chapelle, I guess I didn't think to in-depth about it. I mean given Shikamaru would definitely fight someone if they tried to IWR Asuma but think about if Sakumo was IWR and Kakashi controlling him or something, which brings me to wonder why they didn't bring him back? Minato said he was considered even more powerful than the Sannin and I mean that is definitely saying something since one of them is a Hokage, Jirayai well we all love and know he was super powerful, and Orochimaru was great in many ways as well. Also you would think maybe the Tsuchikage and Iwagakure would use IWR since they used Akatsuki many times.

 

[MinatoIsBestHokage]

Lol this whole war has been one big Trollfest by Kishimoto. I think the biggest troll moment was with Itachi. Itachi's crow comes out of Naruto's mouth. We go crazy thinking its some new amazing power. In reality it is a genjutsu that is used on Itachi, but is not rendered useless, and then Itachi is like " xd JK you don't need that power anyways".



Oh yeah I know. I was just saying he may have been a good person for the village but he was not a good person over all. Even if he was Hokage. For example Hiruzen was a good person for the village, and a good person over all who wanted peace with other villages as well.

I actually agree with you, fight fire with fire but you would have to go grave digging. That's disrespectful to the person who passed away. Like you would never see Shikamaru dig up Asuma's grave to get his DNA to use in the war.
And that it also requires a human sacrifice which is also disrespectful to use a person to revive another. In Naruto I think its just more on morality, and the value of life and death.

About Madara's quote I was like "WTF" too! I really hope he explains more about Edo Tensei.

Yeah it definitely makes me think Kabuto has no idea what is actual going to happen and I feel like Kishi is trolling us with that because he didn't even have Kabuto ask him what he meant after that through Mu. Haha I would say that is up there with the biggest troll moment, but I gotta say the biggest troll moment was the whole Kin and Gin brothers in general. Oh yeah we have 9 tails chakra too and one of them has a tailed beast mode because they got swallowed by the Kyuubi and survived off his stomach meat and then he just spit them and allowed them to get the most powerful shinobi weapons and then the Kyuubi walked away? Yeah that sounds like the Kyuubi to me "Hey you guys deserve to survive for eating pieces of my chakra/stomach meat and here are some amazing weapons and my chakra, I will see you guys later while I am 15 stories tall and a mile wide so I will just walk away now."

 

[ShinobiMu]

Yeah Flying thunder god is the only technique fast enough to fight tobi with. Minato was the only one who we've seen lay a finger on Tobi.

I also predict Naruto learning to do this with shadow clones seeing as how that's how he learned everything else.




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are you really dave?

 

[Hitoshi]

meh i think it be pro as hell to use like the ftg with a beast bomb lol naruto teleports behind tobi kamehameha@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

 

[zyyxx]

this fight is going to be along hard fight
naruto needs more power

 

[sneakattack]

After about a year of threads speculating what that jutsu is for Naruto. It couldn't be more obvious!!

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Edit: Anybody else agree this picture is EPIC?

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Has anyone noticed in the last panel of the manga that A appears to have BOTH of his hands???

 

[-The Agent-]

The thing is that i never said that FTG is a counter to Edo-Tensei. Its a counter for Tobi's Space - Time Technique which makes him intangible. Re - read my post mate. I explained it step by step

Look at the post you quoted. You are contradicting yourself. You quote a post saying that by Him she is referring to madara. By agreeing with it you are saying that She's saving FTG for Madara.

Then in your actual post you said FTG was being saved for Tobi. If it was saved for him don't you think they would have used it on him by now? Think about it. They have sensors who would be able to find Tobi's location, and where he's headed to... So like you said if she was talking about Tobi it would be easy to find his location get to him and use the technique right?

I was telling you my opinion on why she is saving FTG for him, and by him I believe she is referring to Naruto.

are you really dave?

Sigh... :| Yes I am...

Has anyone noticed in the last panel of the manga that A appears to have BOTH of his hands???

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