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It's said in the movie, have you watched it? Toneri comments on how the Pure Byakugan will evolve into the Tenseigan through his Ootsutsuki chakra.

Hanabi not having the Tenseigan is explained in the movie. The fact that you don't know seems to show you didn't watch the movie, yet your still trying to argue ? Come one ...


In a way, both the supporters and haters of the tenseigan are probably right though. It's heavily implied the power comes from the tenseigan alter (as Toneri receives "pulses" as his eyes adjust to it). You need Ootsutsuki chakra and a pure byakugan to interact with the tenseigan alter (to this degree, it's fairly obvious that it can be access without it to a certain extent). The Tenseigan's power comes from the byakugan horde, but the ability to access it comes from Ootsutsuki and Hyuga combined.
 

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You digressed quite a bit. I only addressed the fact that Tenseigan grants the user chakra mode, something that only a Jin with a Bijuu has. Which is amazing in itself. The experience and the overall ability of a user aren't the issue here.

No. I didn't drift from the main subject. I should have quoted those who were saying Tenseigan>>>Rinnegan, but I agree.

Actually, you need Ashura+Indra to achieve the rinnegan. The Uchiha and Senju themselves have nothing to do with it.
My point exactly. Madara was the incarnation of Indra and took senju DNA which was Hashi which was Ashura's incarnation at the time and in the latter of his life he achieved the Rinnegan.
 
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Oh plz u r still gonna make fanfics dat Hinata camn fly and has bijuu lvl chakra

Well, she can fly. She was shown flying at the end of the movie. Although I do agree the Bijuu chakra level thing was wrong.

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The Tenseigan was first manifested by Hamura Ōtsutsuki. Due to this, the combination of his two bloodlines, the Hyūga and the Ōtsutsuki clans, can evolve the Byakugan into the Tenseigan.

Similar to the process of awakening the Rinnegan by combining the chakra of two bloodlines of Hagoromo, the Tenseigan is awakened by combining Hamura's two bloodines, the Ōtsutsuki and the Hyūga.
 

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In a way, both the supporters and haters of the tenseigan are probably right though. It's heavily implied the power comes from the tenseigan alter (as Toneri receives "pulses" as his eyes adjust to it). You need Ootsutsuki chakra and a pure byakugan to interact with the tenseigan alter (to this degree, it's fairly obvious that it can be access without it to a certain extent). The Tenseigan's power comes from the byakugan horde, but the ability to access it comes from Ootsutsuki and Hyuga combined.
^^ This is the best explanation. Chapter 700 is 8 years after the last yet hinata didnt awaken the tensigan. Thanks for the correction.
 

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No. It's not fanfic, if you read the manga.

Hamura and Hagoromo created the moon together, Hagoromo didnèt do it on his own.

^^ This is the best explanation. Chapter 700 is 8 years after the last yet hinata didnt awaken the tensigan. Thanks for the correction.

Obviously Kishi needs to heavily nerf Hinata in order for her not to outshine everyone else and become the solo queen of the world
 

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Irrelevant argument. The Hyuga don't have access to the Tenseigan. The Hyuga are ultimately inferior in a clan battle over time, but the tenseigan itself is stronger than any other dojutsu without anything additional buffing it.
The op claimed Byakugan is on the level of MS......
 
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In a way, both the supporters and haters of the tenseigan are probably right though. It's heavily implied the power comes from the tenseigan alter (as Toneri receives "pulses" as his eyes adjust to it). You need Ootsutsuki chakra and a pure byakugan to interact with the tenseigan alter (to this degree, it's fairly obvious that it can be access without it to a certain extent). The Tenseigan's power comes from the byakugan horde, but the ability to access it comes from Ootsutsuki and Hyuga combined.

I watched the movie. Those "pulses" are just his eyes evolving into a complete Tenseigan.

^^ This is the best explanation. Chapter 700 is 8 years after the last yet hinata didnt awaken the tensigan. Thanks for the correction.

Do all Uchiha awaken the MS?
 
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In a way, both the supporters and haters of the tenseigan are probably right though. It's heavily implied the power comes from the tenseigan alter (as Toneri receives "pulses" as his eyes adjust to it). You need Ootsutsuki chakra and a pure byakugan to interact with the tenseigan alter (to this degree, it's fairly obvious that it can be access without it to a certain extent). The Tenseigan's power comes from the byakugan horde, but the ability to access it comes from Ootsutsuki and Hyuga combined.

But when the Tenseigan alter was destroyed, Toneris Tenseigan was still well and working fine. It was only after getting punched in the face with a Hamura-chakra-infused fist that he lost the power of the Tenseigan.
 

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Also unique to the main family they had inherited the powerful chakra from their ancestor Hamura directly.


It's in the same context as how the Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki inherited powerful chakra from THEIR ancestor, namely Hagoromo. That doesn't mean they directly have his chakra. It's like saying the chakra Naruto and Sasuke got is the same that flows in the Uzumaki, Senju and Uchiha clans, which it isn't. Likewise, The chakra the Hyuga/Ootsutsuki inherited from Hamura is not the same as the chakra that Hamura personally gave to Hinata.
 

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It's in the same context as how the Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki inherited powerful chakra from THEIR ancestor, namely Hagoromo. That doesn't mean they directly have his chakra. It's like saying the chakra Naruto and Sasuke got is the same that flows in the Uzumaki, Senju and Uchiha clans, which it isn't. Likewise, The chakra the Hyuga/Ootsutsuki inherited from Hamura is not the same as the chakra that Hamura personally gave to Hinata.

manga scan/anime scene of ur claim or don't reply :coffee:
 

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But when the Tenseigan alter was destroyed, Toneris Tenseigan was still well and working fine. It was only after getting punched in the face with a Hamura-chakra-infused fist that he lost the power of the Tenseigan.

A. That only destroyed the shell containing the byakugans. It was still operational afterwards. The biggest proof being that after Toneri lost his eyes, he could still utilize the tenseigan powers with the byakugans. It was still being used.

B. I don't think Naruto had Haruma chakra. There's no real indication that the chakra Hinata gave Naruto was a lasting buff.
 

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manga scan/anime scene of ur claim or don't reply :coffee:

Go watch the movie, then go read the manga. You'll find that I'm right.



 

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I watched the movie. Those "pulses" are just his eyes evolving into a complete Tenseigan.



Do all Uchiha awaken the MS?
No but the altar is needed for the tensigan. That explains why kaguya didn't awaken it.
 

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