That's because he has now the power of the Juubi. Then again, being the Jinchuuriki of a tailed beast means you can't exert the beast's full power. So Juubi > Juubi Jinchuuriki Madara I'm afraid. Unless Madara's own powers can compensate the gap, which is more or less possible, since we're talking here about the beginning and end of everything.
That's because he has now the power of the Juubi. Then again, being the Jinchuuriki of a tailed beast means you can't exert the beast's full power. So Juubi > Juubi Jinchuuriki Madara I'm afraid. Unless Madara's own powers can compensate the gap, which is more or less possible, since we're talking here about the beginning and end of everything.
Rikudo creating the moon in a weakened state already goes to show his scale of techniques is far above what anyone in this manga has ever come close to.
doesnt matter and you are the only one who understimate SOSP. P
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^^ ability or potential to use any jutsu
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^^ Creation of the Moon
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^^ As Juubi Jin SOSP was literally God(not even Obito as Juubi Jin was feared and reffered to ). Even as Juubi Jin Obito reffers to Sage of six paths in high tone as he states Sage was able to RECREATE/RESHAPE ENTIRE THE WORLD(maybe even planet without i's core of course) after his battle with COMPLETE JUUBI while he was Juubi Jinchurki.
4) Obito's Juubi version was incomplete while Madara's Juubi version is almost complete. Sage's Juubi version is ONLY ONE COMPLETE.
^^ all the manga facts stated above by me. (I am not going into Creation of all things at which Sage has mastery and could basically anything he wants to do.)
Bolded part is not true completly. Of course Sage of six paths most likely could not use any technique developed later after his death, but it all depens on if Sage wanted or needed to create such technique for any purpouse, then he would.
However in battle scenario... it basically means that Sage could be able to easily decipher and use opponent's technique to counter it just after one glance... or he could come up with new technique to counter opponent technique... simply as that.
Obito did NOT shit on Juubi. JUUBI WAS RESTRAINED... WEAKENED and was unable to move/react.
Madara although yes... he bascially shint on Juubi and did it alone. However Sage's case was still harder as Juubi was awoken and fully moving when Sage meet it... while in Madara's case it was just barerly awoken and before Juubi could react Madara sealed it in himself. It is called anticipation.
1) "If he existed". If he was around to see what is available, he could potentially use it. At his time, He couldn't use shit that doesn't exist. It makes 0 sense. So, no. That ability comes from the rinnegan in the first place. Nagato, obito, and madara now have that ability. In essence that doesn't make sage special at all. Even hiruzen's tossing 5 elements.
2) Already covered this. Nagato created something that dwarfed konoha on low reserves of 1/7 of his power, without the massive power boost gedo gives, or the massive power boost SM gives, or the massive power boost Senju+uchiha chakra gives. This isn't even a spectacular feat right now. I respect even nagato's feat even more because he did it with the extra chakra drain of borrowed eyes(same strain kakashi gets from not being uchiha) ontop of all the other shit he didn't have. What's worse is, the moon(circumference) is only about 3times bigger than the US.
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for a guy with all that 'hype'.
3) You do realize naruto and sasuke shattered that sword right? In essence proving my point? The power of the new generation (Kyuubi jin + Susano'o) shattered the most OP thing in sage's time. Of course everyone will hold him in high regard, the same way kabuto called Hashirama a fairy tale.
FYI, Nagato was regarded as a god. So there's that.
4) That's great and all that you're trying to use something like this to try prove a point. So, sage has this 'complete' juubi. So, suddenly, he's better than these guys who have, what? something with a little less chakra and a shit ton of jutsu the sage doesn't have? One of them, madara, having a monstrosity that canonically shattered sage's sword? Don't bother getting into creation of all things because Madara already used ying-yang creation to make zetsus. So, again, that aspect of sage is just overstressed hype. Stating the sage is the 'strongest man' just because he was the first person with chakra is like stating adam and eve are smarter than us all. Everything sage has done has been repeated. For all we know, it's been repeated on a grander level.
Mokuton, PS, Izanagi, Izanami, Dust release, other kkg's, edo tensei, FTG, Kamui, etc. These are all OP as hell techniques the sage doesn't have (don't come back with that 'can learn anything shit'. The sage isn't around right now). For all we know, Madara, obito, and EMS users(with senjutsu), and any SM user probably shits on Sage. Once you get around omnyoudon nullification, the sage just gets decked like canon obito or even worse because he has far far farrrr less knowledge of current jutsu.
As to your last paragraph. It's still wrong. Rinnegan allows sage to learn any tech. Madara, obito, nor nagato has shown they can just watch and use any tech. They still need to learn the mechanics of the tech. Same way no uchiha has yet to up and use FTG even though they've seen it numberous times. That's because the doubt know the mechanics. Being able to learn something doesn't mean you automatically get it just by 1 glance. You're just blowing hype extremely out of proportion... Sage can use kamui at first glance without knowing how the hell the jutsu works...? Just think about that and you'll realize how stupid that sounds.
No, it didn't come down to 'necessity'. You need to work out how something works to use it. Sage doesn't automatically master everything. He literally isn't god. He's just a guy who had chakra first. He has to develop new 'technology' before he can use it.
Yes, obito shat on the juubi. Completely
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like a pet. Becomes juubi jin neg diff with literally 0 effort. The only effort he actually used was in trying to resist madara. Madara put up a bigger fight than juubi at that point. EDIT: Forgot mind part. That was a struggle, but he still mid diffed juubi at best.
The sage's rank is speculation. The same way people go 'Kaguya and sage's sons are num 2-4' Like they have any feats :|
Madara is well above Pre-Jin Rikudou, and once he gets his second eye, he'll be right on par if not above Jin Rikudou. That half of Kurama will regenerate in literally no time, and will make the Juubi complete, hence Madara's power. Don't be surprised to see Madara use Creation of all Things on a whim.
how quickly everyone forgets the first sage could see the future which was part of why he could counter jutsus or learn them and their trick so easily and paired with the rinnegan which has the ability to see everything it makes him god like which is probably how he defeated the jubbi so easily maddarra has nothing on him and if he does then the manga doesn't follow its own logic even if madara is more talented and strong the ability to see it all before it happens breaks that as well as the ability to creat a new teck against everything.
hello guys, i just read the lastest chapter of naruto manga and i would like to list some points in the chapter which are reason why i created this thread. Here i go:
We know that hagoromo ootsutsuki bettter known as sage of six paths was host of full power complete ten tails beast.
Now... We know that obito was host of incomplete ten tails(full 7 beasts + a bit of gyuuki and kurama):
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also madara just became host of almost complete ten tails(full 8 beasts + half of kurama):
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so in the end black half of kurama in minato is out of madara's reach even although madara is heading in wrong direction.
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- yin dark half of kurama is reserved for naruto to save him !
Even if madara get there and found out that other half of kurama is in minato then he won"t get it as:
1) madara already become ten tails host... So it is impossible to add other half of kurama in himself
2) other half of kurama is reserved for naruto to save his life.
3) full and complete revival of ten tails:
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^^ will signal end of this world... So it can not happen... As good guys would have not chance to beat full juubi... Let alone madara as complete juubi jin.
i cannot stand you anymore before naruto have kcm mode, he is your fav, then he become fodder then naruto became bm naruto there you go again and again, then you change fav, jin juubito!!!!!! All time, now to be sure you now preffered so6p a myth!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahaha are you gay?
i cannot stand you anymore before naruto have kcm mode, he is your fav, then he become fodder then naruto became bm naruto there you go again and again, then you change fav, jin juubito!!!!!! All time, now to be sure you now preffered so6p a myth!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahaha are you gay?
Madara is well above Pre-Jin Rikudou, and once he gets his second eye, he'll be right on par if not above Jin Rikudou. That half of Kurama will regenerate in literally no time, and will make the Juubi complete, hence Madara's power. Don't be surprised to see Madara use Creation of all Things on a whim.
how quickly everyone forgets the first sage could see the future which was part of why he could counter jutsus or learn them and their trick so easily and paired with the rinnegan which has the ability to see everything it makes him god like which is probably how he defeated the jubbi so easily maddarra has nothing on him and if he does then the manga doesn't follow its own logic even if madara is more talented and strong the ability to see it all before it happens breaks that as well as the ability to creat a new teck against everything.
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