Temari vs Danzo (fuuton battle)

[Beans2]

Temari's fuuton are one of the strongest in the manga, behind Naruto who is enhanced by Kyuubi/senjutsu chakra.

Location: Samurai Bridge
Intel: Both know the other one is a fuuton user.
Distance: 40 meters
Restrictions: Anything that's not fuuton.

Scenario 1: They are not allowed to use their summons.
Scenario 2: Summons are allowed.

 

[Angelic.]

temari blows away the universe gg

 

[BenjerminGaye]

temari blows away the universe gg

Lmfao.

Ot: danzo craps on her.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Danzō wins both scenarios.

 

[super yang]

scene 1: danzo wins w/ great wind sphere
scene 2: danzo still wins w/ great wind sphere

 

[LuckyMan]

Danzo wins. Not because his Futon is stronger but he outlasts her.

I don't think their Futon are that far apart that it'll make a difference if they clash but given that Danzo can flow it into his weapons, I'll say he's the more skilled user and that's probably due to his legendary experience.

 

[Icelerate]

What's your opinion on this scan of Danzo using a

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? Right afterwards, Sasuke's

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but this could be because of Sasuke not being able to maintain it anymore. If this feat of Danzo's is legit, he wins scenario one. Otherwise, Temari's fuuton has better DC.

Scenario two depends on who summons first. If they both summon simultaneously, Temari wins.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Could go either way honestly.

@Icelerate Susanoo tanked it it went off because Sasuke was tired nothing has ever forced Susanoo away because it was to powerful it broke it.​

 

[Icelerate]

Could go either way honestly.

@Icelerate Susanoo tanked it it went off because Sasuke was tired nothing has ever forced Susanoo away because it was to powerful it broke it.​

You sure? So I guess Hashirama destroying susanoo, Naruto destroying Sasuke's, Kaguya destroying Sasuke's, Obito destroying Sasuke's etc. prove your point that susanoo was never forced away. But I don't understand what you mean.

If Danzo never did any damage to V2 susanoo, then Temari has better DC feats than Danzo does. Other than this and his feat with his summon, Danzo has never been shown doing damage to any form of susanoo.

 

[Lariatoo]

Danzo definitly wins scenario 2: Baku enhanced Fuuton could make an opening on a freaking v2 Susanoo.
Scenario 1 is debatable.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You sure? So I guess Hashirama destroying susanoo, Naruto destroying Sasuke's, Kaguya destroying Sasuke's, Obito destroying Sasuke's etc. prove your point that susanoo was never forced away. But I don't understand what you mean.

If Danzo never did any damage to V2 susanoo, then Temari has better DC feats than Danzo does. Other than this and his feat with his summon, Danzo has never been shown doing damage to any form of susanoo.

You clearly didn't get what i said. I said Susanoo was never forced away it was only blown off. Which in all those cases you named it was broken/blown off not forced away. Danzo could only harm Susanoo because Baku increased his wind tech simple. On the other hand Temari and the others all shot their attacks at a skeleton Susanoo and it didn't get affected at all. So their techs are on the same level.​

 

[BlacLord™]

Part 1 Temari could do this with Fuuton:

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Note how small they are compared to the damage radius.

 

[Beans2]

Part 1 Temari could do this with Fuuton:

Spoiler

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Note how small they are compared to the damage radius.

That one scan honestly makes Part 1 Temari jump up a tier or two.

 

[lanakui8]

temari blows away the universe gg

temari dies due to lack of oxygen, danzou outlasts her with izanagi GG.

in actuality, though Danzou should win this considering he blew open the back of a susanoo while temari + a bunch of SA fuuton users combining their attacks into one barely did any damage to base Sandaime raikage.

 

[Icelerate]

You clearly didn't get what i said. I said Susanoo was never forced away it was only blown off. Which in all those cases you named it was broken/blown off not forced away. Danzo could only harm Susanoo because Baku increased his wind tech simple. On the other hand Temari and the others all shot their attacks at a skeleton Susanoo and it didn't get affected at all. So their techs are on the same level.​

Temari's shown two stronger techniques than the one she used to assault Sasuke's susanoo (

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temari dies due to lack of oxygen, danzou outlasts her with izanagi GG.

in actuality, though Danzou should win this considering he blew open the back of a susanoo while temari + a bunch of SA fuuton users combining their attacks into one barely did any damage to base Sandaime raikage.

He blew open the back of susanoo with Baku, which is restricted in scenario one. Sandaime Raikage with RNY took an FRS with barely any damage yet I see you hyping FRS to completely destroy V3 susanoo and saying that Danzo's fuuton is far inferior. Regardless if we are including summons, the one who wins is the one who summons first because whoever summons first will one shot the other. If they summon simultaneously, Temari wins because the weasel will travel through the suction, oneshotting Danzo's summon before it can do anything.

Not to mention your argument that Temari's fuuton without help would be weaker is correct but still overlooks details. I personally think it will be half as strong but Temari's shown she can control the AoE of her fuuton so she can halve it's AoE to retain the same damage per unit area or to keep the same AoE but with half damage per unit area. The net result is the same energy output but applied in a different way.

To give proof of Temari's control, notice that her dai kamaitachi no jutsu was used as a wide AoE jutsu to nullify sound waves but against susanoo, she opted to use a smaller more concentrated

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. Even though okamaitachi is a stronger variant of kamaitachi than is

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, okamaitachi was more concentrated because Temari wanted to breach a defence whereas against Tayuya, a more wide AoE was required to protect both her and Shikamaru from the sound waves.

 

[lanakui8]

He blew open the back of susanoo with Baku, which is restricted in scenario one.

then i'm talking about S2... plus how are you suppose to quantify how much power baku's suction added to the attack?

Sandaime Raikage with RNY took an FRS with barely any damage yet I see you hyping FRS to completely destroy V3 susanoo and saying that Danzo's fuuton is far inferior. Regardless if we are including summons, the one who wins is the one who summons first because whoever summons first will one shot the other. If they summon simultaneously, Temari wins because the weasel will travel through the suction, oneshotting Danzo's summon before it can do anything.

This is why i said "base" sandaime raikage took temari's attack.

Not to mention your argument that Temari's fuuton without help would be weaker is correct but still overlooks details. I personally think it will be half as strong but Temari's shown she can control the AoE of her fuuton so she can halve it's AoE to retain the same damage per unit area or to keep the same AoE but with half damage per unit area. The net result is the same energy output but applied in a different way.

What evidence do you have that temari can do that?

 

[Icelerate]

then i'm talking about S2... plus how are you suppose to quantify how much power baku's suction added to the attack?

By comparing it to the fuuton that Danzo used prior to using Baku and looking at how much damage they did to susanoo. That is why I asked whether Danzo did any damage to susanoo prior to using Baku or not or else we know Baku enhanced Danzo's fuuton to a much higher level than without. Similarly, Temari without Kamatari in part one was only able to

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but then ended up

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due to the summon amplifying her power to a much higher level.

Regardless, instead of asking me baseless questions like the one you posed to me, why don't you prove to me base Sandaime being far less durable than RNY Sandaime? Why are you comparing Wind Cast Net to Danzo's strongest technique when KKM is even stronger than WCN?

This is why i said "base" sandaime raikage took temari's attack.

Who is almost as durable as RNY Sandaime.

What evidence do you have that temari can do that?

I posted evidence above in my edit.

 

[lanakui8]

By comparing it to the fuuton that Danzo used prior to using Baku and looking at how much damage they did to susanoo. That is why I asked whether Danzo did any damage to susanoo prior to using Baku or not or else we know Baku enhanced Danzo's fuuton to a much higher level than without. Similarly, Temari without Kamatari in part one was only able to

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but then ended up

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due to the summon amplifying her power to a much higher level.

Danzou never used the fuuton that he used before summoning baku, they were all single streaks of fuuton the one he used with his summon was a buch of them combined into one.
Somewhat similar to temari, she never used kiri kiri no mai before her summon since it requires her to summon.

Regardless, instead of asking me baseless questions like the one you posed to me, why don't you prove to me base Sandaime being far less durable than RNY Sandaime? Why are you comparing Wind Cast Net to Danzo's strongest technique when KKM is even stronger than WCN?

Why do I have to prove to you anything? If you've got enough motivation, it doesn't matter how much evidence I bring up, you'll still say "you haven't proven to me...."
The obvious argument for Sandaime raikage being far more durable with his RnY up is how little damage he took from FRS vs the damage he took from Temari's combo fuuton despite the vast difference in power implied by Temari herself.
Who said KKM performed by temari alone is stronger than WCN when it's a combination tech?

Who is almost as durable as RNY Sandaime.

based on?

I posted evidence above in my edit.

that's evidence for her being capable of concentrating or expanding her tech, but what's the evidence that she could have either expanded or concentrated her technique in reference to what we saw her do against sandaime raikage? Like where's the evidence that she wasn't already at maximum concentration or expansion?

 

[Beans2]

By comparing it to the fuuton that Danzo used prior to using Baku and looking at how much damage they did to susanoo. That is why I asked whether Danzo did any damage to susanoo prior to using Baku or not or else we know Baku enhanced Danzo's fuuton to a much higher level than without. Similarly, Temari without Kamatari in part one was only able to

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but then ended up

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due to the summon amplifying her power to a much higher level.

Regardless, instead of asking me baseless questions like the one you posed to me, why don't you prove to me base Sandaime being far less durable than RNY Sandaime? Why are you comparing Wind Cast Net to Danzo's strongest technique when KKM is even stronger than WCN?


Who is almost as durable as RNY Sandaime.

I posted evidence above in my edit.

Just like to point out here that Danzo only used once slash against Susanoo

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but used multiple slashes

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so it wasn't only Baku's suction that increased the cutting power. Vacuum bullet was

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so Danzo's fuuton can pressure Susano'o as well.

Also Baku can exhale a powerful blast at Temari through it trunk (

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) which is the result of the huge suction which it is inhaling, except it is much more concentrated than the suction due to being channeled through a narrow trunk so it can exhale more powerfully than it can inhale and blast Temari away.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Temari's shown two stronger techniques than the one she used to assault Sasuke's susanoo (

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)(

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).

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Then Temari takes this. ​