Temari, VotE Sasuke, Zabuza, Sakura and Kitsuchi vs Kakuzu

[Zexion~]

Temari combining with zabuza is really out .. because all of zabuza's water jutsu that we have seen come from utilizing water that is already there.. Pond,lake etc.. there is no water around. And it doesn't matter whose wind style is greater or not .. because all of it is countered by kakuzu's fire style.. It would simply blast right back into temari's face . Elemental jutsu will always be countered by kakuzu..
And What Stops Kakuzu From Grabbing Temaris fan with his threads she is basically useless without it

 

[Icelerate]

They are a big deal to these 5 who aren't on his level of skill. Did you really brought up Sasuke situation with Lee? Lee was shown to still be faster during their fight. From lee's own words "you maybe able to copy my movements but that doesn't mean your own body will react in time. The fact that the Wind mask surprise Kakashi shows enought feats that they are not slow either. Sasuke was not faster then Kakashi

Da fuq??? First of all, Kitsuchi is on par with early Shippuden Kakashi who alone pushed Kakuzu to mid difficulty. Zabuza was on par with part one Kakashi and current Temari is the same. If Kakashi, was on the skill level of Kakuzu to not be destroyed by him, I don't see why these three, who together, will destroy early Shippuden Kakashi lose. Not only that, but Kakashi was busy protecting his team mates and also had to fend Hidan off as well. In this situation, Kakuzu is alone so Hidan isn't helping him using deadly combinations. Not to mention the fact that these guys do have knowledge. Kitsuchi already fought edo Kakuzu and got knowledge from Shikaku on his abilities. Sakura would have gotten knowledge from Kakashi as she showed up near the end of the fight. It is

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that Shikamaru and Temari share information to each other in a bid to help out their respective villages and to build mutual trust. Bare in mind that Temari is Suna's ambassador to Konoha and Shikamaru is an intel guy who works well with Temari. Do the math.

Temari combining with zabuza is really out .. because all of zabuza's water jutsu that we have seen come from utilizing water that is already there.. Pond,lake etc.. there is no water around. And it doesn't matter whose wind style is greater or not .. because all of it is countered by kakuzu's fire style.. It would simply blast right back into temari's face . Elemental jutsu will always be countered by kakuzu..
And What Stops Kakuzu From Grabbing Temaris fan with his threads she is basically useless without it

If Kakuzu does that, Sasuke uses chidori to cut those threads or Temari cuts them apart before Kakuzu grabs her fan. As for Zabuza, I've never got why people think he can't use suiton without a water source just because he had a water source during the only fights he had. Even

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have shown the ability to use suiton without a water source and others less skilled than him have done so. I believe that Zabuza would consume more chakra than he did in his fight with Kakashi but since he won't have to maintain the mist, he can conserve it. Also Sakura could restore his chakra if need be and bare in mind he got a 4.0 in stamina so I think he'll be fine.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Da fuq??? First of all, Kitsuchi is on par with early Shippuden Kakashi who alone pushed Kakuzu to mid difficulty. Zabuza was on par with part one Kakashi and current Temari is the same. If Kakashi, was on the skill level of Kakuzu to not be destroyed by him, I don't see why these three, who together, will destroy early Shippuden Kakashi lose. Not only that, but Kakashi was busy protecting his team mates and also had to fend Hidan off as well. In this situation, Kakuzu is alone so Hidan isn't helping him using deadly combinations. Not to mention the fact that these guys do have knowledge. Kitsuchi already fought edo Kakuzu and got knowledge from Shikaku on his abilities. Sakura would have gotten knowledge from Kakashi as she showed up near the end of the fight. It is

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that Shikamaru and Temari share information to each other in a bid to help out their respective villages and to build mutual trust. Bare in mind that Temari is Suna's ambassador to Konoha and Shikamaru is an intel guy who works well with Temari. Do the math.

First you got the math all wrong my friend, without taking these into consider
1. Kakashi never pushed it through mid-diff. He was on the verge of dying twice (Hoping Shiki's plan will save the day)
2. Kakuzu's defeat was all planed and amusing made it complete. The battle would of made a WHOLE turning point just by putting Kakashi one the front-lines instead of hiding and ambushing at the right time. The plan made a BIG difference in the fight.
3. You are using ABC logic to determine how the fight would be when Kakashi had this own personal moves that fit perfect to counter some of Kakuzu's (And that wasn't enough).
OP never said anything about preped knowledge since none of them fought/alive Kakuzu. OP mistake for not clearing that up.

My point was that Kakuzu's may seem stronger because of its area of effect but since Temari focusses her chakra into creating slicing wind blades instead of a vacuum, her jutsu may seem relatively weaker when in reality, it is stronger.

Prove it bro, I don't look at Temari like that so show me


I am well aware but notice the scan I showed you was from Temari before the time skip. I just showed you how much of a boost she had in two months, so in three years, that attack may very well surpass Kakuzu's.

So your going by a Maybe. Maybe her moves can compete with Kakuzu. So far by feats it does not.


The point is she used her weakest wind attack with the intention to save the samurai yet you just compared it with Kakuzu's one and only wind attack. Not only that, Kakuzu's wind attack is a pressure type and did no real damage to humans in the vicinity.

I compared all the attacks you have shown in scans and still hasn't shown compared in power. Kakuzu's Wind was only show to try to kill Kakashi. Since Kakuzu specifically said that due to Kakashi's Sharingan he was able to escape. This also applies Kakashi's Speed. You may have the Sharingan to read movements but your body has to react to it to. So those to main factors are important when it comes to doding it. And the fact the the force blow striped away his vest shows enough proof that a person is not surviving it head on.


Just because there were a couple of others attacking doesn't mean she can't do it alone. You do realize that some of the power used in the wind blades from that attack could have instead been used to beef up the area of effect, in which case, Temari would easily destroy more trees compared to Kakuzu. Just look at the scan again and it shows you that the technique was pretty much cast by Temari herself.

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Again I don't see this is a counter to Kakuzu wind release. It would impress me if it actually did continue to travel for after such attack. That move is mid range at best and that wouldn't be enough to counter Kakuzu's Wind.


Kiri kiri mae alone, from part one Temari, has a much higher area of effect compared to Kakuzu's jutsu and it instantly one shotted CS2 Tayuya without even hitting her. The debris and tree logs killed Tayuya, as the actual wind attack itself went past her. Don't compare Naruto's rasenshuriken with Kakuzu's wind mask. Next you'll be saying that Kakuzu has stronger wind attacks compared to Danzo.

Dude I just showed you Kakuzu's AoE compared to Kiri Kiri Mae. Her scale of destructive was no where near.You showed me the scale of Temari's location and I showed you the scale of Kakuzu's location. Kakuzu's area made Temari's area look like lego land. This is important to understand the scale of Kakuzu's attacks. The fact Kakuzu's attack was directly at Kakashi and everyone else was being blow away from behind STIL proofs that Temri's destructive power is no where near or near to counter.

You also haven't countered Kitsuchi's ability to defend his team mates and move them out of harms way either.[/QUOTE]

Kitsuchi will be caring the weight to protect his teammates. He also has to make his Earth style level up to Kakuzu's AoE jutsu's. He has no feats of toping them over and over, from elemental bazookas from any angle at any time.

 

[Zexion~]

Sasuke has no range chidori so he would not make it in time to save the fan from being ripped away.. Especially when his threads were able to Ensnare 3 people ( one of them sharingan) In seconds

And temari's wind style's are all slicing .. they would cut right through zabuza's water style .. she is not good to combine with

 

[Icelerate]

Firstly, I was using power scaling as well so just because you think it is invalid, it is not. I can't prove to you that Tobirama can counter Kakuzu's fire attack but through power scaling and hype, he most certainly can. Same with Temari. It is hinted by Temari herself that she was saving

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to use on the 3rd Raikage but then Naruto came and defeated him so she didn't have a chance at using it. I think she'll use it in this fight against the Juubi eventually.

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has a much larger area of effect than Atsugai. Just because Kakuzu was in a forest with larger trees doesn't mean the attack is larger since we haven't seen Temari in the same situation as Kakuzu. The difference is that Atsugai has a larger vertical area of effect but kiri kiri mae is a 360 degree attack that

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only has a 100 m range at most.

Anyway it is hinted that Temari's kiri kiri mae has improved drastically as she says in the scan I posted earlier that she can continuously spam that same jutsu over an interval.

Also, during the kage summit arc, Temari show cased an even stronger jutsu,

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. In the scans I just posted, she used that attack in a concentrated fashion as opposed to using it over a wide range like she did with the B ranked

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, a stronger version of the C ranked

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. Notice the power difference between the B ranked dai kamaitachi no jutsu, which mowed down several trees as opposed to the C ranked kamaitachi no jutsu, which barely scratched a tree? Now during Shippuden, that same weak

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was able to effortlessly slice samurai armour completely without even hurting the samurai himself. Bare in mind she didn't even use it to kill so it is obviously more powerful than the way she used it. Now imagine Shippuden Temari using a dai kamaitachi no jutsu? She'd be able to easily slice apart several dozen trees if she decides not to concentrate the attack into a focal point. Her okamaitachi no jutsu, a stronger version of dai kamaitachi which was already a stronger version of kamaitachi, is an A ranked technique whereas Kakuzu's Atsugai was a B ranked technique. Now you tell me which one is stronger?

Anyway as for wind cast net, it may have less range compared to Atsugai but Kakashi's raikiri is only a short ranged jutsu yet it countered raiton gian which is mid ranged.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Firstly, I was using power scaling as well so just because you think it is invalid, it is not. I can't prove to you that Tobirama can counter Kakuzu's fire attack but through power scaling and hype, he most certainly can. Same with Temari. It is hinted by Temari herself that she was saving

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to use on the 3rd Raikage but then Naruto came and defeated him so she didn't have a chance at using it. I think she'll use it in this fight against the Juubi eventually.

Whatever it was it still wouldn't be enough which was applied:

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Funny how you brought up Fire release I wanted to bring up this move also wipes the team too but the focus is Wind.

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has a much larger area of effect than Atsugai. Just because Kakuzu was in a forest with larger trees doesn't mean the attack is larger since we haven't seen Temari in the same situation as Kakuzu. The difference is that Atsugai has a larger vertical area of effect but kiri kiri mae is a 360 degree attack that

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only has a 100 m range at most.

Ok I see what you are saying. So this leaves the question since Atsugai it Wider wouldn't that mean that by distance it reach that its possible that not everyone will be in a safe area of protection?

Anyway it is hinted that Temari's kiri kiri mae has improved drastically as she says in the scan I posted earlier that she can continuously spam that same jutsu over an interval.

I read your post twice I didn't see anywhere that is spamable

Also, during the kage summit arc, Temari show cased an even stronger jutsu,

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no

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. In the scans I just posted, she used that attack in a concentrated fashion as opposed to using it over a wide range like she did with the B ranked

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no

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, a stronger version of the C ranked

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. Notice the power difference between the B ranked dai kamaitachi no jutsu, which mowed down several trees as opposed to the C ranked kamaitachi no jutsu, which barely scratched a tree? Now during Shippuden, that same weak

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no

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was able to effortlessly slice samurai armour completely without even hurting the samurai himself. Bare in mind she didn't even use it to kill so it is obviously more powerful than the way she used it. Now imagine Shippuden Temari using a dai kamaitachi no jutsu? She'd be able to easily slice apart several dozen trees if she decides not to concentrate the attack into a focal point. Her okamaitachi no jutsu, a stronger version of dai kamaitachi which was already a stronger version of kamaitachi, is an A ranked technique whereas Kakuzu's Atsugai was a B ranked technique. Now you tell me which one is stronger?

Ranking does not determine power so don't get that mixed you to prove your point. It only explains the difficulty performance of the jutsu. But I am convince that her justu can cancel out some area from Kakuzu's Atsugai

Anyway as for wind cast net, it may have less range compared to Atsugai but Kakashi's raikiri is only a short ranged jutsu yet it countered raiton gian which is mid ranged.

Kakashi's lightening should be an example of not to use ranking jutsu to determine its power over the lesser ranks as Raikiri is a higher rank then False Darkness. Anyway it would be best for her to use her wider range to block atsugai then your concentrated short range to block. It will only defend herself then her teamates.

 

[Negative Knight]

Part1 CS2 Sasuke ( Valley of the End )

This match up is terrible tbh. Part 1 Sasuke ?

Kakuzu mid-diff.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This match up is terrible tbh. Part 1 Sasuke ?

Kakuzu mid-diff.

I had an evil grin when you post.

Then I laugh hysterically.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

This match up is terrible tbh. Part 1 Sasuke ?

Kakuzu mid-diff.

Then why has Kakuzu less votes then team 1?

 

[TheEvilOne]

This match up is terrible tbh. Part 1 Sasuke ?

Kakuzu mid-diff.

Don't be ridiculous. They rape Kakuzu.

 

[Shura]

Don't be ridiculous. They rape Kakuzu.

@Bold wtf? If anyone is going to do the raping here it's Kakuzu.

 

[TheEvilOne]

@Bold wtf? If anyone is going to do the raping here it's Kakuzu.

No.
Temari and Kitsuchi >>>> Kakuzu. They are strong jouninns, but Kakuzu is only low Kage level. Two high jounin >>> 1 low Kage.

 

[Shura]

No.
Temari and Kitsuchi >>>> Kakuzu. They are strong jouninns, but Kakuzu is only low Kage level. Two high jounin >>> 1 low Kage.

Kakuzu isn't low Kage level. If anything he is high Kage level. Temari would get raped by the Katon Mask while Kitsuchi would be taken care of by the Raiton Mask.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kakuzu isn't low Kage level. If anything he is high Kage level. Temari would get raped by the Katon Mask while Kitsuchi would be taken care of by the Raiton Mask.

High Kage? Are you kidding me? Tenten foddrized him, so she is high Kage?

 

[Shura]

High Kage? Are you kidding me? Tenten foddrized him, so she is high Kage?

Tenten fodderized Kakuzu? No just no. First of all Kakuzu was fighting who knows how many more shinobi at the time. Secondly, she took down only one mask with the Banana Fan. And lastly, that's what it's called Pnj.

 

[Zexion~]

Because kakuzu has so many haters my man .. such as theevilone dont bother he tries to flame kakuzu any fight he can

Kakuzu beats temari in one move.
Temari tries to use her wind style ..Kakuzu uses fire style she gets burnt to a crisp


he beats kistuchi in one /a few as well .
Kakuzu gets ready to launch an attack .. he uses fire style so to make him use his earth shield ..
he then uses False darkness(Lightning>earth) which pierces his earth wall and through him .. so he is dead

 

[Shura]

Because kakuzu has so many haters my man .. such as theevilone dont bother he tries to flame kakuzu any fight he can

Kakuzu beats temari in one move.
Temari tries to use her wind style ..Kakuzu uses fire style she gets burnt to a crisp


he beats kistuchi in one /a few as well .
Kakuzu gets ready to launch an attack .. he uses fire style so to make him use his earth shield ..
he then uses False darkness(Lightning>earth) which pierces his earth wall and through him .. so he is dead

@bold But why Kakuzu?? :NO:

 

[Zexion~]

@bold But why Kakuzu?? :NO:

When people see something totally amazing .. they tend to hate on it ..just for the sake of hating

 

[Shura]

When people see something totally amazing .. they tend to hate on it ..just for the sake of hating

Now I understand why Kakuzu, Sasori and Dei are underrated...

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

High Kage? Are you kidding me? Tenten foddrized him, so she is high Kage?

Tenten never defeated Kakuzu, but you are right, he isn't a high Kage level ninja. I'd say low or mid Kage level.

Because kakuzu has so many haters my man .. such as theevilone dont bother he tries to flame kakuzu any fight he can

Kakuzu beats temari in one move.
Temari tries to use her wind style ..Kakuzu uses fire style she gets burnt to a crisp


he beats kistuchi in one /a few as well .
Kakuzu gets ready to launch an attack .. he uses fire style so to make him use his earth shield ..
he then uses False darkness(Lightning>earth) which pierces his earth wall and through him .. so he is dead

Though I agree, Kakuzu > Temari, but he can't beat her so easily. Her Fuuton was strong enough to severe the 3rd Raikage's body.

Now I understand why Kakuzu, Sasori and Dei are underrated...

Sasori is the most underrated AKatsuki member IMO.