Temari, VotE Sasuke, Zabuza, Sakura and Kitsuchi vs Kakuzu

[TheEvilOne]

Lol, this is overkill. Kakuzu gets raped.

 

[Shura]

Lol, this is overkill. Kakuzu gets raped.

Lol No just no. Please tell me you are either being sarcastic or that you are trolling.

 

[shelke]

I am kinda torn here. Kitsuchi's 'giant sandwich' definitely turns the tables and Sasuke can move in for Two Chidoris once Kakuzku is trapped between the two walls. He will be forced to use Doton Domu after all and that is weak against Raiton attacks. But the question is; how good are Temari's futon attacks? Can they over power Kakuzu's?

Can Sasuke counter his Futon mask with his Katon attack? I believe he can as he used it to hinder Naruto's movement in one tails mode. He may or may not destroy the mask, but he definitely damages it. Temari's wind attacks by feats are stronger than Kakuzu as she reduced a hefty portion of the forest into sliced logs. She can take out the Raiton mask with her wind attack, provided it doesn't aid in breaking Kakuzu out of Katsuchi's technique. Kakuzu and Sakura are kinda useless here. As all of Kakuzu's attacks are tanked with Doton Domu and Sakura ... well, she is killed pretty easily.

I don't know what to say but this whole sandwich business sounds a bit too simple. Kakuzu can easily try and get himself out with the masks who can counter Temari's Futon attacks with Katon + Wind attack that has quite the range and destructive power. I think Kakuzu takes this mid difference most.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Kakuzu releases his masks to go wild on the rest. The giant sandwich thing can hold Kakuzu all day, his masks solo

 

[RicardoA]

The whole part I underline

Its just one mask, they were presented as quite powerful but then during the war they weren't even seen and one got soloed by Tenten > O_O
Individually they aren't a big deal. Sasuke had a 3-tomoe Sharingan and copied Lee's taijutsu, which i think its enough to outspeed a mask with no speed feats and use a low-range Katon to finish it. The attacks are avoidable hence why Hidan was used to perform combos.

 

[Shura]

Its just one mask, they were presented as quite powerful but then during the war they weren't even seen and one got soloed by Tenten > O_O
Individually they aren't a big deal. Sasuke had a 3-tomoe Sharingan and copied Lee's taijutsu, which i think its enough to outspeed a mask with no speed feats and use a low-range Katon to finish it. The attacks are avoidable hence why Hidan was used to perform combos.

One got soloed by TenTen because of two reasons:
1. She had Banana Fan
2. Plot no jutsu (Kakuzu, Deidara and Sasori got trolled in the war :|)

 

[RicardoA]

One got soloed by TenTen because of two reasons:
1. She had Banana Fan
2. Plot no jutsu (Kakuzu, Deidara and Sasori got trolled in the war :|)

1 - right, but it was literally her first swing with that fan, she probably didn't know how to use it but she experimented anyway. I believe Sasuke at that point had enough to take down the wind mask. Edit: superior physical capabilities than Tenten (by a large margin) and the elemental advantage (granted to Tenten by the fan).
2 - Ikr T.T

 

[Shura]

1 - right, but it was literally her first swing with that fan, she probably didn't know how to use it but she experimented anyway. I believe Sasuke at that point had enough to take down the wind mask.
2 - Ikr T.T

1. Nah, Kakuzu's wind mask has too much destructive power for Sasuke or any of them to handle.
2. But why the Akatsuki :T_T:

 

[believe7]

Wait are u guys saying that Sasuke with EMS and Susano cannot defeat kakazu on a one on one match-up. Am a bit confused honestly to me this match looks like overkill

 

[KidGamer65]

Wait are u guys saying that Sasuke with EMS and Susano cannot defeat kakazu on a one on one match-up. Am a bit confused honestly to me this match looks like overkill

Valley. Of. The. End. Sasuke. Read the title before you post.

 

[Shura]

Wait are u guys saying that Sasuke with EMS and Susano cannot defeat kakazu on a one on one match-up. Am a bit confused honestly to me this match looks like overkill

Ofc we are saying that.

 

[RicardoA]

1. Nah, Kakuzu's wind mask has too much destructive power for Sasuke or any of them to handle.
2. But why the Akatsuki :T_T:

1 - lets just agree to disagree =D
2 - Kishi was probably drinking sake when thinking about what to do with them. I wanted them to lose but only after giving their opponents the fight of their lifes

 

[Shura]

1 - lets just agree to disagree =D
2 - Kishi was probably drinking sake when thinking about what to do with them. I wanted them to lose but only after giving their opponents the fight of their lifes

1. Ok then.
2. Damn you Kishi and your Troll no Jutsu.

 

[believe7]

Valley. Of. The. End. Sasuke. Read the title before you post.

Oh ok bro I apologized I got a bit confused by the way the author phrase the title yikes

 

[Zexion~]

1 - right, but it was literally her first swing with that fan, she probably didn't know how to use it but she experimented anyway. I believe Sasuke at that point had enough to take down the wind mask. Edit: superior physical capabilities than Tenten (by a large margin) and the elemental advantage (granted to Tenten by the fan).
2 - Ikr T.T

Bro sasuke has literally no Long range lightning style jutsu.. you think he can just waltz right up and chidori the mask? ( Hitting the threads wont do squat. By then he would be blasted by pressure damage

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Its just one mask, they were presented as quite powerful but then during the war they weren't even seen and one got soloed by Tenten > O_O

Like is matters this isn't Kakuzu facing a whole army/division with some people having full knowledge on him. This is 5 people waiting to their death beds.


Individually they aren't a big deal. Sasuke had a 3-tomoe Sharingan and copied Lee's taijutsu, which i think its enough to outspeed a mask with no speed feats and use a low-range Katon to finish it. The attacks are avoidable hence why Hidan was used to perform combos.

They are a big deal to these 5 who aren't on his level of skill. Did you really brought up Sasuke situation with Lee? Lee was shown to still be faster during their fight. From lee's own words "you maybe able to copy my movements but that doesn't mean your own body will react in time. The fact that the Wind mask surprise Kakashi shows enought feats that they are not slow either. Sasuke was not faster then Kakashi

 

[RicardoA]

They are a big deal to these 5 who aren't on his level of skill. Did you really brought up Sasuke situation with Lee? Lee was shown to still be faster during their fight. From lee's own words "you maybe able to copy my movements but that doesn't mean your own body will react in time. The fact that the Wind mask surprise Kakashi shows enought feats that they are not slow either. Sasuke was not faster then Kakashi

This is VotE Sasuke, not early CE Sasuke:

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, his speed is about the same as Lee without weights. Kakashi was busy with Hidan, that's not a speed feat.

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> Kakuzu was surprised by Choji when he was being attacked by Hidan; that doesn't make him fast.

 

[Icelerate]

I am kinda torn here. Kitsuchi's 'giant sandwich' definitely turns the tables and Sasuke can move in for Two Chidoris once Kakuzku is trapped between the two walls. He will be forced to use Doton Domu after all and that is weak against Raiton attacks. But the question is; how good are Temari's futon attacks? Can they over power Kakuzu's?

Can Sasuke counter his Futon mask with his Katon attack? I believe he can as he used it to hinder Naruto's movement in one tails mode. He may or may not destroy the mask, but he definitely damages it. Temari's wind attacks by feats are stronger than Kakuzu as she reduced a hefty portion of the forest into sliced logs. She can take out the Raiton mask with her wind attack, provided it doesn't aid in breaking Kakuzu out of Katsuchi's technique. Kakuzu and Sakura are kinda useless here. As all of Kakuzu's attacks are tanked with Doton Domu and Sakura ... well, she is killed pretty easily.

I don't know what to say but this whole sandwich business sounds a bit too simple. Kakuzu can easily try and get himself out with the masks who can counter Temari's Futon attacks with Katon + Wind attack that has quite the range and destructive power. I think Kakuzu takes this mid difference most.

If Temari and Zabuza use a wind + water combo, they can most likely over power Kakuzu's fire + wind combo just like how Naruto and Yamato did.

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Kakuzu releases his masks to go wild on the rest. The giant sandwich thing can hold Kakuzu all day, his masks solo

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makes quick work of those masks if they get separated from Kakuzu's body.

How could they attack him if hes trapped in the earth .. which the lightning heart could break him out also ..

Good call, maybe he can use his earth grudge threads as well to attack or get out of the trap. They can still attack him just like the ASF was able to attack the Juubi while it was trapped.

Are you playing? Show me Termari attacks that come near it Tense Pressure.

As for Kitsuchi does not have the speed to block all the team mates. First his earth tech has to level with up with Air pressure AoE. Then to cover them at the same time? No. Unless they are prepared for the attack and all stand behind him then I can see this work. But thats not happening.

She doesn't specialize in pressure based attacks, she uses slicing based attacks. I'm pretty sure

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deal more damage compared to Kakuzu's.

If you are looking for an attack similar to that of Kakuzu's, in part one, a vastly inferior Temari used

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no jutsu to

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. This was a couple of months after the chunin exams where Temari's attacks could

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During the kage summit arc, she managed to effortlessly

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without leaving a scratch on the samurai while

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. Her more powerful variants when used to their fullest extent could replicate Kakuzu's wind feats IMO.

Bare in mind that wind cast net is more concentrated compared to Kakuzu's pressure attack so her's is the more powerful one. Also bare in mind that Hidan's body was completely intact and Kakashi only lost his clothes whereas if Temari used something similar, the results would have been more gory.

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to transport his team mates beneath or above the range of the attack.

Unlike what some people say, Zabuza isn;t completely useless. While Kakuzu is busy fighting the others, his own attacks may create a lot of smoke which Zabuza can use to sneak up on Kakuzu and take out a heart much like Kakashi did. Remember, doton domu can't always be activated and it also makes the target stationary so it isn't something that Kakuzu will always use.

Anyway I think Kakuzu can put up a good fight especially with his earth grudge threads which he can spawn from underground as well as from his body. I say team 1 wins mid-high difficulty.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This is VotE Sasuke, not early CE Sasuke:

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, his speed is about the same as Lee without weights. Kakashi was busy with Hidan, that's not a speed feat.

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> Kakuzu was surprised by Choji when he was being attacked by Hidan; that doesn't make him fast.

I don't even no where you are going with this. Sasuke is not dodging an Giant blast to the face.

She doesn't specialize in pressure based attacks, she uses slicing based attacks. I'm pretty sure

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deal more damage compared to Kakuzu's.

I don't think you can make that conclusion saying "this variation" and better then this one. Thats like arguing which is a better weapon, a sword or a hammer..

If you are looking for an attack similar to that of Kakuzu's, in part one, a vastly inferior Temari used

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no jutsu to

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. This was a couple of months after the chunin exams where Temari's attacks could

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This still doesn't compare to Kakuzu in power. First YOU have to notice the size of the Trees Kakuzu was blowing apart:

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Notice how these trees completely dwarf a human (especially the location Temari did he attacks)

Then you can notice the size of Kakuzu's blast:

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During the kage summit arc, she managed to effortlessly

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without leaving a scratch on the samurai while

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. Her more powerful variants when used to their fullest extent could replicate Kakuzu's wind feats IMO.

I hope you look at my 2nd point. Here power is no where near.

Bare in mind that wind cast net is more concentrated compared to Kakuzu's pressure attack so her's is the more powerful one. Also bare in mind that Hidan's body was completely intact and Kakashi only lost his clothes whereas if Temari used something similar, the results would have been more gory.

It was more considerate through the help of supporters. Alone she doesn't compare

Temari may be the better wind jutsu user but Kakuzu cleary has the more powerful attacks. This is like arguing if Temari's Wind attacks is stronger(Keyword I didn't say better) then Naruto's

 

[Icelerate]

I don't think you can make that conclusion saying "this variation" and better then this one. Thats like arguing which is a better weapon, a sword or a hammer..

My point was that Kakuzu's may seem stronger because of its area of effect but since Temari focusses her chakra into creating slicing wind blades instead of a vacuum, her jutsu may seem relatively weaker when in reality, it is stronger.

This still doesn't compare to Kakuzu in power. First YOU have to notice the size of the Trees Kakuzu was blowing apart:

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Notice how these trees completely dwarf a human (especially the location Temari did he attacks)

Then you can notice the size of Kakuzu's blast:

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I am well aware but notice the scan I showed you was from Temari before the time skip. I just showed you how much of a boost she had in two months, so in three years, that attack may very well surpass Kakuzu's.

I hope you look at my 2nd point. Here power is no where near.

The point is she used her weakest wind attack with the intention to save the samurai yet you just compared it with Kakuzu's one and only wind attack. Not only that, Kakuzu's wind attack is a pressure type and did no real damage to humans in the vicinity.

It was more considerate through the help of supporters. Alone she doesn't compare

Just because there were a couple of others attacking doesn't mean she can't do it alone. You do realize that some of the power used in the wind blades from that attack could have instead been used to beef up the area of effect, in which case, Temari would easily destroy more trees compared to Kakuzu. Just look at the scan again and it shows you that the technique was pretty much cast by Temari herself.

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Temari may be the better wind jutsu user but Kakuzu cleary has the more powerful attacks. This is like arguing if Temari's Wind attacks is stronger(Keyword I didn't say better) then Naruto's

Kiri kiri mae alone, from part one Temari, has a much higher area of effect compared to Kakuzu's jutsu and it instantly one shotted CS2 Tayuya without even hitting her. The debris and tree logs killed Tayuya, as the actual wind attack itself went past her. Don't compare Naruto's rasenshuriken with Kakuzu's wind mask. Next you'll be saying that Kakuzu has stronger wind attacks compared to Danzo.

You also haven't countered Kitsuchi's ability to defend his team mates and move them out of harms way either.