teen cuts off own hand after mistakenly admitting to not praying

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In Dialysis, there is a new 'rage' called a "fistula" - it is a grafting of a vein and an artery together to form a convenient access near the skin for the removal and re-introduction of a patient's blood.

There's a lot of pressure, particularly from medicare programs, to have fistulas put into everyone who can have them. They are not, however, the end-all of access (as opposed to a catheter, which is frequently used when a patient is first diagnosed as being in need of dialysis). There are numerous complications that can be experienced - one of which has to do with the fact that the selected artery has been effectively 'shorted' back into a vain.

Normally, arteries terminate in capillaries - small blood vessels that serve as last-mile delivery systems. The artery isn't a 'pipe' so much as it is a chamber that is pressurized and blood forced through the capillaries before returning through the veins. By shorting it with a fistula - or the amputation of appendages - you end up with issues where the heart has difficulty producing the proper pressure and grows in response. Chambers grow out of proportion to each other and the likelihood of strokes and heart attacks increases dramatically.

Of course - on dialysis - this isn't really much of an issue as you are most likely going to die without dialysis and a fistula does have better resistance to infection than a catheter insert - and for an amputee where amputation is a must to prevent the spread of some form of sepsis, then it is also not much of an issue.

When you cut off your own hand because you're stupid....
You think I'll read that shit? Lol, shorten it to 20 words or less.
 
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What this boy did is absolutely idiotic. I hate, hate, hate it when morons like this do extreme things like this that aren't apart of Islam yet claim for it to be so.

Since when was one suppose to cut their hands off in such a situation in Islam?

According to the Quran and Authentic Hadiths, never, ever, nada. So please, for crying out loud, stop associating innovative and wrong beliefs like this to Islam. Geez.
Thank you, people like downgrading islam because of these type of ignorant muslims, if any of you who want to believe islam is ****ed up bring your proof in quran, hadith to backup where it was stated that someone should cut off his arm for misreading something, anyone who does that is ignorant
 

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Obviously a very unstable kid, coupled with receiving his only source of validation from drastic demonstrations of religious devotion and sacrifice. He will very likely regret this decision, but at that point his only way to save face will be to put on a front to convince the world (and vicariously, himself) that he stands by the decision. His apparently fanatic religious community will provide the necessary reinforcement to maintain the front; they'll probably make him a model example of "true" devotion.
 

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This story reminds me of a memory of my mother. She asked me a long time ago if I would jump off a bridge in order to be cool.


This kid would jump off the bridge.
 

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Damn........did he break out of the genjutsu? I think the weirdest part was that he was praised for doing that for such a little issue. What will he have to cut off if he accidently gets a baby mama?
 
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Am I free to call them 'savages' now? no?
No, you're never free to generalize an entire group, unless you know each and every one of them. Go ahead if you want though, shows a lot about yourself.

OT: Even the role models of Islam like the Prophet wouldn't go to lengths like that over a mistake. It's a sin to harm yourself, smh.
 
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Black people is not a belief system though. Yes, many blacks are a cancer to society but that's a socio-economic issue. It depends on the environment they grow up in. For religious fanatics, on the other hand..they take their religious logic everywhere they go, doctrinating generation after generation. In person; I judge people individually. I chat with Pakistanis and Syrians in the gym, I go to my Turkish friends house where his Muslim mother treats me like her second son. I don't look at them as muslims until they give me a reason to. But there are some patterns I've noticed especially amongst young Muslim men.
So you are a racist, glad to know
 

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So you are a racist, glad to know
None of that was racism. There's an estimated number 1.1 million gang members in America, 31% of which are black, which is an approximate 356500 black gang members. They are a cancer to society, and that's relatively a lot of people. So, it's not incorrect to say that many black people are a cancer to society. It's not like he said being black makes you a cancer to society, or that all or most black people are a cancer to society.

As for the Muslim comment, I'm not aware of any comments he made saying that being Muslim makes you violent(which is more bigoted towards religion or culture, not race), but saying he's noticed a pattern between young Muslim men and violent behavior isn't racist either. That's just correlation, which doesn't mean causation. That's the same thing that leads to crime statistics.
 
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You are a known bigot on here, there are no conclusions to draw





Never said him saying that about Muslims was racist seeing that being Muslim is not a race. He said to society not our society as we are not just talking about blacks here in America. It was also not this particular comment that makes me view his beliefs as racist as well, though I find this comment to lean towards racism. White can be a cancer to society as well so there was no reason for him to bring up blacks in that manner as he could have said "people instead." I mean it's a proven fact that Yow Yan is a bigot so I honestly don't know why your defending his post. I should have said ignorant bigoted bloke
The reason he brought up black people is because someone else did so first in a reply to him. He didn't say out of the blue.

"White people can be a cancer...as well."
Yeah. Which is why when I pointed that out in another post defending him, he liked it. You're not saying anything new while misinterpreting his words.
 

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The reason he brought up black people is because someone else did so first in a reply to him. He didn't say out of the blue.

"White people can be a cancer...as well."
Yeah. Which is why when I pointed that out in another post defending him, he liked it. You're not saying anything new while misinterpreting his words.
Helen Keller strikes again :bdpf:


The reason why the other member brought up black people was to show how flawed his bigoted view is

I didn't misinterpret his post, did you read anything I said? Neither one should be said because it is leaning toward racism "people" is the appropriate word to use to avoid any negative connotations
 
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Helen Keller strikes again :bdpf:


The reason why the other member brought up black people was to show how flawed his bigoted view is

I didn't misinterpret his post, did you read anything I said? Neither one should be said because it is leaning toward racism "people" is the appropriate word to use to avoid any negative connotations
That..doesn't change what I said. You said you don't know why he brought up black people, and I said why.

Uhhh no, not in the context of the conversation. In fact, that doesn't actually contest any "bigoted views." YowYan simply said that there is a pattern between violence and young, Muslim men. Someone said the same can be said for black people, and he agreed, then clarified that he does not apply any racist views to all Muslims, as he interacts with and socializes with them and prefers to judge them as individuals, but is instead simply pointing out a correlation he observed. Which isn't racist, you can do that with any race, which I pointed out and he agreed with.

YowYan isn't singling out Muslims and saying that they are the only evil or anything like that. Though some of what he says is extreme, at the end of it he's just pointing out an observation he made while acknowledging that not everyone in the group fits it.

He didn't use "people" because the conversation wasn't about a general subject, but a specific one, which happened to be black people.
 

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That..doesn't change what I said. You said you don't know why he brought up black people, and I said why.

Uhhh no, not in the context of the conversation. In fact, that doesn't actually contest any "bigoted views." YowYan simply said that there is a pattern between violence and young, Muslim men. Someone said the same can be said for black people, and he agreed, then clarified that he does not apply any racist views to all Muslims, as he interacts with and socializes with them and prefers to judge them as individuals, but is instead simply pointing out a correlation he observed. Which isn't racist, you can do that with any race, which I pointed out and he agreed with.

YowYan isn't singling out Muslims and saying that they are the only evil or anything like that. Though some of what he says is extreme, at the end of it he's just pointing out an observation he made while acknowledging that not everyone in the group fits it.

He didn't use "people" because the conversation wasn't about a general subject, but a specific one, which happened to be black people.
This will be my last post to you, not dragging this out for 8 pages over things you don't want to read. The bold is not something I said once in this thread Hellen Keller, read the rest of what I said

YowYan is an avid bigot towards Muslims (and religion) and I'm sure you seen some of his post so I don't why you are putting on this facade as if he isn't. If I call black people the n word based on the view of some white people saying that words refers to some black people acting as they described it (animals) then I guess that isn't racist either right?


The second bold is why I refer to you as such a moniker. I can find (albeit it would take me a while) and link you to other posts of his that say otherwise.


It doesn't matter what the conversation was, the fact of the matter is that "black people are not the only cancer to society" in the words of the enlightened fool
 
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This will be my last post to you, not dragging this out for 8 pages over things you don't want to read. The bold is not something I said once in this thread Hellen Keller, read the rest of what I said

YowYan is an avid bigot towards Muslims (and religion) and I'm sure you seen some of his post so I don't why you are putting on this facade as if he isn't. If I call black people the n word based on the view of some white people saying that words refers to some black people acting as they described it (animals) then I guess that isn't racist either right?


The second bold is why I refer to you as such a moniker. I can find (albeit it would take me a while) and link you to other posts of his that say otherwise.


It doesn't matter what the conversation was, the fact of the matter is that "black people are not the only cancer to society" in the words of the enlightened fool
It's quite an eyesore when I encounter mediocre minds quoting my stuff while not even being able to comprehend them properly. You should really re-read Riker's lesson more than twice for it to really sink in.
 
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