Technology and it's effect on society (Long)

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Yesterday I was eating dinner with my sister who is in high school. She told me that her high school no longer uses textbooks, and every student is now required to have/rent an iPad. This got me thinking about how advances in technology have changed society.

I graduated high school in 2005. When I was in middle school my family had 1 computer in the house. We had dial up internet through AOL. I still remember the start up sounds to get on the internet. That internet was slow so we didn't really use it much. I also didn't get a cell phone until high school and the one I had was primitive compared to current models. Without dependence on the internet I grew up learning all the basic functions I would need to live in society. This includes abilities such as reading maps, writing in cursive, finding information in a library, writing and mailing letters, writing proper checks, etc... It also think it effects music. People seem to be fixated on music that has been made popular through the internet and tv. In turn they don't experience a wide array of music genres. It's also my belief that music has gotten worse because people are less knowledge and don't have to work as hard to become well known with the internet.

I just think that people who grow up with the current level of technology are getting the short end of the stick. It's like the old saying goes "You don't know you need it until you have it". I think with cell phones this generation will always have a vast amount of knowledge at their fingertips. When your given something you don't have to work to obtain it. In essence I believe cell phones and the internet have made people lazy and dumber. This generation is severely lacking in critical thinking skills that would normally be obtained in school and everyday life activities.

Of course the other side of the argument is that this generation is the most technologically advanced so far. Even so I don't believe all technology is good technology. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's useful. I tend to think that we've overstepped our bounds in useful technology. Anytime you gain convenience you lose knowledge. The two have to be balanced and I think that this may have happened in the late 80's/early 90's.

I would like to try an experiment, but no one would approve. I would like to have 2 groups of elementary school students. One group would complete their education until the end of high school with the current technology and teaching practices. The other group would complete their education with the technology and teaching practices of the 1990's. They would also live with the technology of their respective generations. At the end of their education I would like to test their real world problem solving capabilities. I think the students from the 1990's would be more knowledgeable and have better critical thinking skills. No only that but in think in 6 months they could catch up with enough of the advances in technology to function however they needed to in society.

I would be curious to see what would happen if the internet on cell phones was cut off, iPads/Ibooks and it's variations were destroyed, and music could not be downloaded from the internet. I think society would be better. Of course I say all this on an internet forum which makes me a hypocrite. I would like to think however that I'm reasonable well rounded and have the basic skills to function in society. Since this is just my opinion I'm curious to see what other people think.
 

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Theres noting wrong with technology!! Why they pricking blaming technology? Who ever uses it, its their fault what will happened to them, and when it comes to kids, its the pricking parents responsibility to teach their childrens about addicting... Lol
 

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Blaming technology, wow. I wonder if they find it somewhere it their brains... that its stupid. Not to mentioned you cant stop technology but people can stop or prevent using it.
 

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Theres noting wrong with technology!! Why they pricking blaming technology? Who ever uses it, its their fault what will happened to them, and when it comes to kids, its the pricking parents responsibility to teach their childrens about addicting... Lol
Blaming technology, wow. I wonder if they find it somewhere it their brains... that its stupid. Not to mentioned you cant stop technology but people can stop or prevent using it.
This is the issue at hand. The majority of people will always do what's convenient and never take it upon themselves to become better. If people won't better themselves then what do you do? You can either force them by taking away convince or keep developing technology that makes them lazier and in turn dumber.

Your telling me about I pads . See this thread I made and then talk about technology :
That's pretty awesome. This is an example of technology that is useful and has practical applications.
 

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I both agree and disagree. I agree, because being in my senior year of High School now, I can say that I've never been taught things like how to read a map (something that is crucial information). I learned cursive back in 3rd grade (isn), but never had to use it after that grade. On the flip side of that however, most of the things you mentioned are all outdated. Its not about technology handicapping the current generation, and the generations to come. Technology will progress even further as we go along. Not to teach kids about what we have available would be robbing them of critical information of today. You don't need to read maps anymore (still a good skill to have though), because just about everything has GPS. You dont need to know how to go to the library, because books are going digital (libraries are even closing down now). And so on.

Im not saying we should live off of technology, because you're right. If one day the lights go out, and no one knows how to live without their precious phones, the human race is as good as dead. But not to take advantage of what's at our disposal is a shame. Just look at this video:



Everything about the content in there is amazing. The creativity, the music, and what they were able to accomplish with the technology they had. Its not about letting technology dictate our lives, its about learning how to use technology so that we can choose how to live our lives. But as for your sister's school, that rule is BS. Completely. The school has no right whatsoever to require every student to go out and buy a $300 product for education. Its great that the school want's to incorporate technology like that, but if they want to do that they need to get the money themselves and buy class sets.
 

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Personally, I couldn't disagree more with you. Your arguments weren't that great, and mere assumptions which are mostly to blame on the current teen generations of smartphone addicts. You should look up some research that has been done on this, you'd be surprised at how much more intellectually superior each generations gets, regardless of technology that makes our lives easier, doesn't make us dumber. In fact, learning how to use computers stimulates technical thinking, hence why old people don't know their way around technology.
 

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I both agree and disagree. I agree, because being in my senior year of High School now, I can say that I've never been taught things like how to read a map (something that is crucial information). I learned cursive back in 3rd grade (isn), but never had to use it after that grade. On the flip side of that however, most of the things you mentioned are all outdated. Its not about technology handicapping the current generation, and the generations to come. Technology will progress even further as we go along. Not to teach kids about what we have available would be robbing them of critical information of today. You don't need to read maps anymore (still a good skill to have though), because just about everything has GPS. You dont need to know how to go to the library, because books are going digital (libraries are even closing down now). And so on.

Im not saying we should live off of technology, because you're right. If one day the lights go out, and no one knows how to live without their precious phones, the human race is as good as dead. But not to take advantage of what's at our disposal is a shame. Just look at this video:



Everything about the content in there is amazing. The creativity, the music, and what they were able to accomplish with the technology they had. Its not about letting technology dictate our lives, its about learning how to use technology so that we can choose how to live our lives. But as for your sister's school, that rule is BS. Completely. The school has no right whatsoever to require every student to go out and buy a $300 product for education. Its great that the school want's to incorporate technology like that, but if they want to do that they need to get the money themselves and buy class sets.
That is amazing!! It reminds me of blast. I'm not claiming that all technology is bad, but I think the majority of people abuse it.

Personally, I couldn't disagree more with you. Your arguments weren't that great, and mere assumptions which are mostly to blame on the current teen generations of smartphone addicts. You should look up some research that has been done on this, you'd be surprised at how much more intellectually superior each generations gets, regardless of technology that makes our lives easier, doesn't make us dumber. In fact, learning how to use computers stimulates technical thinking, hence why old people don't know their way around technology.
Fair enough. I haven't done that type of research. I'd be curious to see if people are just technological more advanced or actually smarter as a whole. I'm a graduate student in engineering at my university. As such I have gotten a chance to monitor undergraduate students in the department for the past 3-4 years. In that short time I have seen drastic changes from when I was an undergraduate. When I was an undergraduate we did our homework by hand and studied the books to solve problems. These days I see more and more students scan the internet solutions for to the homework. All they do is copy the work and don't learn anything. If engineering students abuse technology then I know most of society does.
 
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Fair enough. I haven't done that type of research. I'd be curious to see if people are just technological more advanced or actually smarter as a whole. I'm a graduate student in engineering at my university. As such I have gotten a chance to monitor undergraduate students in the department for the past 3-4 years. In that short time I have seen drastic changes from when I was an undergraduate. When I was an undergraduate we did our homework by hand and studied the books to solve problems. These days I see more and more students scan the internet solutions to the homework. All they do is copy the work and don't learn anything.
To be honest, there's not really a point in looking in the library these days if you can use the internet instead. After all, ther internet essentially serves as a collection of human knowledge. And I wonder if they learn from it more if they use books...

And don't you see the essence here? If kids are given the assignment to do their homework, hinted by their teacher to do it the primitive way, but instead they find their own way to do it, albeit not learning as much, they've shown to be excellent problem solvers!

I'll be honest and admit I didn't do horse shit on middle-high school, but I still made it through with well above average. Now, doesn't that mean something? Especially since college/university focuses much more on the practical side of education instead of the theoretical, that is the part where students actually get to use their skills that they have developed by themselves.

"I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it." - Bill Gates; one of the most successful people on earth
 

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I have the exact same feeling you have.
The 80's / 90's generation(our generation) had the best education, according to me, because they were the bridge between the older generations & the new generation.Due to this, we value the resources of both generations.....If you see, the "before 80's" people hate today's generation, & vice versa, however, we are able to adapt to both, because of certain level of maturity in us to bridge the gap between the previous & next gens..
No doubt the IQ of newer generation is always increasing as compared to previous generation, but still, there are few basics which they arent taught.
However,I dont think the idea of keeping pc's/tablets/mobile phones away from them is the best solution, because today's generation needs to be exposed to new technologies in order to stay competitive among the fellow mates....however, we either as the older brothers/sisters or parents, need to educate the newer generation
 
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