Technically Kurama Isn't The Strongest Tailed Beast!

[carloninjawarrior]

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[girya]

kurama is the strongest why?

When catching the bijuus; tobi and his team members acknowledge that gado mazo will break if other nine tails is sealed before other bijuus becoz of the amount of chakra it has.

Its true that minato sealed half of the foc chakra within himselves. It might be possible that at the given time it was not possible to seal the entire fox spirit in little boy naruto but over the years that lost strength be recovered by nine tails. Just a thought

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Kurama Stomps as I have already said, you simply can't give the bijuu's inaccurate/random numbers. Unless your kishi ............. SMH

 

[thievesgold]

Maybe they work like powers. 9 tails = 9x9 = 81 / 2 = 40.5

If it's like that then the Kyuubi is still second to the Hachibi.

Ah ! 7*7=49 is still greater than 40.5 ! :sy: ha ha... Naruto Logic is ok, but please apply a bit of math too... :shrug:

 

[Samori of the Samsara]

yeah, but with half its chackra sealed, Naruto 9 tails tranformation could deflect 5 tailed beasts bombs. Imagine what it could do with his all of his chakra. I still think that Kurama is the strongest tailed beast, with only half of its chackra.

 

[Amantius]

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The Haachibi doesn't know half of Kurama's chakra has been sealed through RDS, the 9 tails is SUPPOSED to be stronger - but his chakra was halved and then sealed.

U_U But chakra can be replenished. Naruto even raped some of his chakra and he still put out tail beast bomb. So sorry to say but your logic is interesting and all but Kyuuby is still the strongest.

What bugs me is that you actually believe that a person or being in the naruto universe can survive without chakra. Kakashi stated this in the first few episode.....if you run out of chakra your dead. The 9 tail got his chakra stolen 4 times in the series. (Minato, The 2 bothers, the boy that hated azuma, and by Naruto) all of which stolen a lot. So this can only indicate that his chakra has far been replenished.

 

[Nooby Kyuubi]

Kurama took out 5 tbb with one of his dude. And I forgot where I heard this but doesn't the number of tails of a tailed beast has shows the amount of chakra or something?

 

[Uzusenchi]

For those who CBB to read - Read the Bold

Now as we all know, realistically the true strength of a tailed beast and his Jinchuuriki is not determined by the actual strength of the tailed beast, it is a combination of both of their abilities and their choice to work together that allows them to become powerful.

This removes the factor of the current fight during the war - as all tailed beasts (At least up until Edo was Released) have a Jinchuuriki to work with.

Now that is clarified we can begin to talk about the chakra available to the tailed beasts and what they really are.
I recently read a thread by @Blaze Release Wherein he determines that the tailed beasts are merely forms of spiritual energy - and do not have a physical body.

After understanding this theory, it is important to acknowledge that generally, the power of each tailed beast BY THEMSELVES (With no Jinchuuriki) is determined by the amount of tails each beast has.
This is further supported by the 8 Tails comment about the 9 tails - that the power of a Tailed beast is not determined only by the amount of tails but by the ability to work with their host. This informs us that Kurama is not working with his host at the time - he is weaker than other tailed beasts that do.
Therefore Kurama's Arrogance causes him to be weak (Alone)

In addition, the most important factor to acknowledge about Kurama's power is that his power was cut in half.
During the battle with the 4th Hokage (Minato), the 4th uses the Reaper Death Seal to seal half of the 9 Tails Chakra - evidently causing him to become halved in size.
The other half of this chakra was then sealed within Naruto - and remained with him for the rest of his life.

Now, to my knowledge, the other tailed beasts did not have any of their chakra sealed or removed from existence through being sealed - only the 9 tails lost any of his original chakra - which was sealed - halving him in size.

Therefore the chakra of the 9 tails has been halved whilst the other beast's chakra has not.
The question is up to whether or not you personally believe that the chakra of the 9 tails would be recreated in existence - (similar to what would happen if the tailed beast died with its host.)

The difference between a death and a seal, is that when the chakra is sealed - it becomes unavailable to the world - just as sealed souls are no longer available to be used in an Edo Tensei.

Therefore it is plausible to substantiate an argument that states that only half of Kurama's actual chakra is sealed - and therefore - available to Naruto, making Kurama, by himself, NOT THE STRONGEST in chakra either.

To my understanding the list might look (based on chakra) a little like this.

1, 2, 3, 4, (9), 5, 6, 7, 8
----------- 4.5------------

What do you think, and do you believe that Kurama regains his chakra over time / his being is regenerated as his chakra 'died' in the RDS?

edit: Everyone is comparing Kurama's TBB to the other tailed beasts, but has anyone thought that the other beasts werent using their full power because Tobi couldn't control all of the beasts normally anyway? It would make sense to think that if he cant control them in full beast mode then he wouldn't allow them to use overpowered TBB that he cant fully control.

Hate to say this after you typed so hard. But you're so wrong. Manga said even with half of his chakra Kurama was easily the strongest tailed beast. The half that allows him to create himself physically was lost. He still has all his spiritual chakra. The manga clearly stated he was still strongest tailed beast with half his chakra. This thread was pointless. :sy: U_U :shrug:

 

[SuperLifeguard]

Yeah but it's already been stated that even though half of his chakra was taken he began to slowly grow more and more chakra over time.

 

[Hyakushiki]

When,why and who suggested that a tail of the beast means an acurate amount of chakra? Like 1 tail means 100 chakra(just imagine) ,2 tails 200......9 tails 900.Who said that?! Kurama had much much MUCH more than all others.Even when he was halved by Yondaime he was still alot stronger than all others.Kurama is the strongest,no doubt about it.

 

[Virus..]

U_U But chakra can be replenished. Naruto even raped some of his chakra and he still put out tail beast bomb. So sorry to say but your logic is interesting and all but Kyuuby is still the strongest.

What bugs me is that you actually believe that a person or being in the naruto universe can survive without chakra. Kakashi stated this in the first few episode.....if you run out of chakra your dead. The 9 tail got his chakra stolen 4 times in the series. (Minato, The 2 bothers, the boy that hated azuma, and by Naruto) all of which stolen a lot. So this can only indicate that his chakra has far been replenished.

This k.o you so rest just spam looooool

 

[sultan1998]

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The Haachibi doesn't know half of Kurama's chakra has been sealed through RDS, the 9 tails is SUPPOSED to be stronger - but his chakra was halved and then sealed.

his other half chackra was restored when went to the frogs mountain before going in a ship to train with killerB

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

It's possible for the Kurama's lost chakra to have recovered. Chakra regenerates in humans, it should do the same thing for bijuu.

 

[Yo fool]

Wait didn't Kurama just solo 5 tailed beast or was that another manga I was reading not sure....

indeed:sy:

 

[Frozenstein]

if I remember correctly it was said there's not much of a difference between the first 8 tailed beasts in power, but the 9 tails is way above them. so even if half of his chakra is taken he is still the strongest. and also there's a possibility he could regain that chakra.

 

[crysis04]

good one there

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Finnaly back on this site remembers guys when naruto was fighting Sora who had the nine tails chakara naruto absorbed it so Kurama got his yin or yang what ever so he can regenerate back to his normal power

 

[bobonosis]

i just remember something **** you all!

 

[6 Paths of Pain]

9 tailed is the best/strongest naruto roflpwned all other bijus with kyubbi mode

 

[Dribbles]

Its been repeated over and over again that he Nine-Tails was ALWAYS the strongest tailed beast in the manga, please stop using this excuse that his chakra was cut in half.

HALF a kyuubi soloed 5 tailed beast bombs. And if your not quite aware, the jinchuuriki's were ressurected by edo tensei, giving them full control of ALL their powers, Tobi was just steering them..

Oh, and if you didn't know, most of Naruto is based off japanese mythology, part of it speaks of the nine-tailed beast, stronger then any other tailed beast. Said to have infinite chakra and never been beaten by anyone.