Prince Charles
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not true, sasuke defeated diedara fairly. Dont play the whole suicide bomb bull, diedara chose that as a last resort because he knew he couldnt defeat sasuke but ended up failing.
Technically, Akatsuki members never really lost to anyone
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Harry Balzac
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1. Deidara lost, technically. He was was cornered into checkmate. Sasuke was going to finish him, but chose to end it himself because he couldn't stand losing to sharingan. No matter how you put it he was outclassed.
2. Sasori, you're correct. He left himself get killed.
3. Itachi, correct again. He let himself lose on purpose.
4. Kisame was beat by Gai. Only reason he survived is because Gai let him.
5. Pain/Nagato lost fair and square. Naruto beat all his corpses then proceeded to kill nagato but chose to forgive him. Nagato at his current state couldn't beat naruto, hence Konan had to interfere.
6. Kakuzu... lost. It wasn't a fair fight but he lost. Then again no fight is fair.
7. Orochimaru was defeated by itachi twice. The second time he had to be "revived" which means he was technically dead, as his soul was in another world.
2. Sasori, you're correct. He left himself get killed.
3. Itachi, correct again. He let himself lose on purpose.
4. Kisame was beat by Gai. Only reason he survived is because Gai let him.
5. Pain/Nagato lost fair and square. Naruto beat all his corpses then proceeded to kill nagato but chose to forgive him. Nagato at his current state couldn't beat naruto, hence Konan had to interfere.
6. Kakuzu... lost. It wasn't a fair fight but he lost. Then again no fight is fair.
7. Orochimaru was defeated by itachi twice. The second time he had to be "revived" which means he was technically dead, as his soul was in another world.
NarutoKage2
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Pure luck. Any ninjutsu would've been absorbed and countered, having a tai jutsu tech that looked like ninjutsu was a troll move on kishi's part. Kisame was someone who could solo tailed beasts and even in the end he never admitted defeat by killing himself and protecting the akatsuki's info.
True.
Lightbringer
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Well as I said in my previous comment, Kisame may have won if he knew that the attack wasn't made from chakra.
But now that I think about it, Kisame didn't have his Samehada so I guess it technically wasn't all that fair since Kisame wasn't at full power.
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Okumura Rin
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'Would' be dead, but isn't. Therefor, Itachi lost.
Pain and Nagato are definitely not the same thing, completely different.
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Fang King Agito
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Nope they were defeated
Most of them took the easy way out and ragequited after not being able to win
Instead of acting like S ranked criminals, they acted like children when defeat came knocking on their door
Most of them took the easy way out and ragequited after not being able to win
Instead of acting like S ranked criminals, they acted like children when defeat came knocking on their door
NarutoKage2
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Very good point. Seriously it may well have played a pivotal part in the end.
I disagree. Being dead=/=having been beaten. In fact, for most shinobi death is an honor.
She lost to Akatsuki's founder.
You forgot Sasori. I'm sure everyone can agree that if he wanted, Sasori would've won his battle.
Oh, please gtfo.
The Akatsuki were one of the smartest things kishimoto ever did, after their first appearance demand for the manga went out of the roof.
Each and every one of them were epic in their own way, possessing some kind of demi god like powers and/or personality. Toward the end, a lot of them proved their sincerity for a cause as well.
How was what nagato did before he died acting like a child?
How was kisame's decision to protect secret info by sacrificing himself a childish decision?
How was Itachi's actions before his death anything like a child?
How was Deidara's decision to remain true to himself(his art) acting like a child?
Fang King Agito
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Deidara blew himself up because he wanted to kill sasuke.He created one massive jutsu because he lost to itachi.You might consider that his "decision to remain true to himself", I consider that a sore loser. His battle with sasuke was over him not getting the glory of killing orochimaru. He even stated as if it were a fact that he was better than sasuke. Going as far as to make counters on someone in the same organization. Do you believe for a second that him and sasori were truely interested in capturing tailed beasts?
Notice how I said most acted like children.MOST.Itachi and kisame acted like true akatsuki members.
The nagato situation is all based on your standing. To me, naruto just took j-man's idea and did nothing of any change to it.And this "God" buys into it without too much struggle.Sorry if that wasn't my cup of tea
You don't like what I have to say? Get over it. Couldn't care less about how you feel. This is a forum,and I can contribute to something if I feel like.
NarutoKage2
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False. Deidara would've been a sore loser if he bent over and let himself be defeated. Him pulling a tech that shook Sasuke was his way of proving his mettle. A little melodramatic, but he proved he had ability.
When did i ever argue that they were interested in Akatsuki's goals? Those 2 had their own agendas, the point is they stuck to them.
What? Itachi was a spy and a traitor to the cause of Akatsuki.
Its called plot no jutsu.
Agreed. However Hidan wasn't a fodder, I know he pales in comparison with other Akatsuki members but Hidan was up against worst possible opponent, Shikamru with full intel and prep.
We know what Konan did with intel and prep. Obito would've died there if it wasn't for the Izanagi.
We know what Konan did with intel and prep. Obito would've died there if it wasn't for the Izanagi.
Fang King Agito
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No not false,you just don't accept like the akatsuki fanboy you are.False. Deidara would've been a sore loser if he bent over and let himself be defeated. Him pulling a tech that shook Sasuke was his way of proving his mettle. A little melodramatic, but he proved he had ability.
When did i ever argue that they were interested in Akatsuki's goals? Those 2 had their own agendas, the point is they stuck to them.
What? Itachi was a spy and a traitor to the cause of Akatsuki.
Its called plot no jutsu.
Itachi ACTED like a true akatsuki member should.Read my post correctly or don't respond
The whole point of akatsuki is to capture tailed beast.Yet most of the members had no actual interest in doing so and almost the jinchuriki.
The leader of akatsuki even stated that sasuke had nothing to do with their plans yet deidara went off just prove himself better than sasuke and it cost him his life.If you don't think thats being childish,then I really don't know what to tell you
No,fans made up pnj when they act like babies when something doesn't go their way.Some diehard naruto fans have explained in depth why naruto enlightening nagato was one of the best ideas in the series, but I just don't agree with them.
Example
Sasuke beat deidara legit.Yet people label it pnj.Its not.Not masashi's fault your favorite character got rocked by an actual genius
Keep pnj out of this.Come back with facts instead of excuses
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NarutoKage2
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True, its only relative to the other members of Akatsuki that i stated him to be such.
Yup, Obito with his own power would've lost to Konan. She's quite possibly the strongest female ninja shown in Naruto to date. People also forget, but she solod the aburame clan in the pain invasion of konoha arc.
NarutoKage2
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*yawn*
You again fail to realize that there's a difference between losing due to inferiority in strength, and losing due to plot.
Stating this fact does'nt mean that the character in question is your fave, it simply means you have the ability to use your head, which you clearly don't.