Technicalities and Officials

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

So you want to ban someone... because they called you out on a technicality... and they were right? O_O If I'm reading this thread correctly, one of the main things about it is being a bit more mature about battles and not complaining over every little thing. However, what you just suggested is quite possibly one of the most retarded things that I've ever heard on this site, which makes your post agreeing with him rather contradicting. .-. No offense intended lol.

There. I fixed it for you. xd

 

[Scorps]

This will lead to nothing more than further flaming and bashing... I think this thread accomplished nothing and will not likely do so in anyway... U_U

I completely agree with you. When I "win" on technicalities (aka, my opponent being an idiot, not me asking about it multiple times), I don't count it as a real win. It's not. It's just a piece of sh... eet metal. I think that the whole thing of people winning this way is stupid and should be considered an offense against the RPG rules, such as being banned from tournaments and RPG temporarily, not jut an infraction. I mean, come on people, win with pride, not by being a b!tch.

Also, realize, there is a difference between a novice and a noob. A novice is someone who is competent, but new to a topic. A noob is, well, a noob. A nincompoop. A b!tchslap earner. You get the point.

Uh???? Did you read what you wrote or are you only trying to brown nose Zanji in some weird way? This makes no sense what so ever!

 

[Riku..]

There. I fixed it for you. xd

Thanks bro. xd

I mean... that's not what I meant at all... :|

 

[Pervyy]

Maybe a poll?

Zanji is over reacting:

Yes?
No?

 

[Daemon]

Thanks bro. xd

I mean... that's not what I meant at all... :|

lol xd Well this thread ended up being stupid in the end

 

[Daemon]

Maybe a poll?

Zanji is over reacting:

Yes?
No?

he really is though xd

 

[Zanji]

No offence, but what do you gain from making this thread?

If you mess up and someone sees that, you lose, get over it.

I lost the wind sword on a technicality and i didn't make a thread about it.

Is this just because you lost in the MS tournament to yard this way?

Asking for 3 checks isn't needed if you mess up the first time right. No edits is there to make you think more.

Meh

No the reason I made this thread Dan was because of technicalities it wasn't just over the loss in the MS tourney shit I can get that whenever big whoop if it's not as soon as I would have liked but I can still get it.

I made this thread out of the sheer fact of the stupidity of others not being bright enough to think on their own two feet.....well on their own asses in this case.

And what did I get out of this thread? What does anyone get out of making threads in this section? Hrmmm I dunno make points known and heard? The fact that there are more Technicality wins than wins made threw skill? or the Fact that it's grade A retarded that the only people here with a battle sense are ones that have been here a while and know how to f*cking fight and use skill to win their matches rather than running to a mod or sensei to check the fights for them.

You know there was a specific reason I came back in the first place and this is one of those specific reasons. Too stop idiots from doing nothing more than piss pounding one another with nukes then running to a mod or sensei because they lack an imagination to think of their own two feet rather than run to a mod.

Shit do you guys think we had mods or sensei's to run to, to judge the fights or give out a technicality? No we did have members whom gave their points on what would happen from time to time but it was generally using your own skill to win your fights not an outside party to get involved saying who won the fight and who didn't.

 

[Pervyy]

No the reason I made this thread Dan was because of technicalities it wasn't just over the loss in the MS tourney shit I can get that whenever big whoop if it's not as soon as I would have liked but I can still get it.

I made this thread out of the sheer fact of the stupidity of others not being bright enough to think on their own two feet.....well on their own asses in this case.

And what did I get out of this thread? What does anyone get out of making threads in this section? Hrmmm I dunno make points known and heard? The fact that there are more Technicality wins than wins made threw skill? or the Fact that it's grade A retarded that the only people here with a battle sense are ones that have been here a while and know how to f*cking fight and use skill to win their matches rather than running to a mod or sensei to check the fights for them.

You know there was a specific reason I came back in the first place and this is one of those specific reasons. Too stop idiots from doing nothing more than piss pounding one another with nukes then running to a mod or sensei because they lack an imagination to think of their own two feet rather than run to a mod.

Shit do you guys think we had mods or sensei's to run to, to judge the fights or give out a technicality? No we did have members whom gave their points on what would happen from time to time but it was generally using your own skill to win your fights not an outside party to get involved saying who won the fight and who didn't.

You said you could get MS anytime... but didn't you just fail at doing that?

Sorry, couldn't resist. We have mods and sensei to give opinions on fights when ever needed as there are millions of possibilities in the rp.

We discuss how jutsu, combo's and other stuff works. And then pass that judgement on.

Losing on a technicality, means you made a mistake, which everyone does, get over it. We all learn to, it's just one of those things. It's like on an xbox game, you press the wrong button and jump into a bus or something, so what do you do? You try again and deal with it like many do lol.

Mods = judges

Why restrict how many times something can be judged?

Technicallity = mistake = think before posting

Right? xd

 

[Daemon]

You said you could get MS anytime... but didn't you just fail at doing that?

Sorry, couldn't resist. We have mods and sensei to give opinions on fights when ever needed as there are millions of possibilities in the rp.

We discuss how jutsu, combo's and other stuff works. And then pass that judgement on.

Losing on a technicality, means you made a mistake, which everyone does, get over it. We all learn to, it's just one of those things. It's like on an xbox game, you press the wrong button and jump into a bus or something, so what do you do? You try again and deal with it like many do lol.

Mods = judges

Why restrict how many times something can be judged?

Technicallity = mistake = think before posting

Right? xd

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[Pervyy]

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Almost as awesome as your sig U_U

+rep xd

 

[Tvqxeqlapcfr]

Why the hell is the entire Akatsuki here? Anyway, after reading Dan's post, I stand by what I said, as people take technicalities to the extremes, like "OoooOo, you said 'I' it sshould be 'he" rp in in third person xdxdxd". I still agree with Zanji, even if Dan can't read what I'm saying.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

I know im late but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in:

Im from the newer generations and have fought people in our generation. It is true that we throw nukes at each other but thats because of how easily other techniques can be blocked, especially B-rank and lower. I mean, some people don't want to think out combos but rather do one technique that will deal u in. I personally don't even have any nuke techniques xd. I myself am mostly an A and S-rank user except for lower rank techniques that help u get around on the battle field.

as for technicalities, some people are the type that will pay attention to the little details of a battle looking for the small stuff to win instead of countering. I have lost multiple times due to this. I bet u that if u where to take a person and record his/her battles, 80% of them would be technicality wins/losses. Im pretty sure I may only have maybe 9 battles at the most that I have won in the true RP spirit.

Also damage. I have only seen a few battles where a person will take damage and they are usually older members.

I personally don't like people who will whine to mods over technacalities although I do understand if it was based off a choice of moves but if for time frame or stuff that wasn't described in battle, its just annoying =/

 

[The Doctor]

For me, it depends on the technicality.

While, I will ask for a mod's opinion on how long something takes, if it hasn't been shown in the anime, running to one for every little thing is just ridiculous. As I'm from the new generation, I doubt I'll be taken seriously, however, I believe that it should not be limited, but there should be something done as to how battles are done.

I believe that minor technicalities should just be able to be edited. What is the point of losing in such a way that doesn't display your opponents skill compared to yours? I know that's been stated quite a lot, but it's true. The RP is supposed to be about having fun, not about using it as a tool to humiliate people. It shouldn't determine your dick size. People take things way too seriously, and I have been a culprit of that.

I think it might be a bit better to have some sort of academy, in battle training, before you're able to make a bio. It would help a lot of members out, and it should level out the RP system eventually.

In any case, TL;DR: don't take shit seriously.

 

[Igneel]

well....i agree with you partly.........

i'm a rookie and i make mistakes and some times i even ask sensei's their opinions but sometimes even sensei's can't agree on the validity of some moves.This happens and i'm not pointing at them and saying thats bad coz we are humans and we make mistakes.Even RP mods will disagree on some moves.One is Wind-Fire blast some will say its two jutsu's and others will say its one.We are entitle to our opinion but that may not be right always so we ask people who are more experienced than ourselves to clarify.This is not wrong as it helps us to learn and learn from our mistakes.But limiting the times we run to a mod for their opinion is a good suggestion.

You are saying we should be able to judge our battles.When i RP...if i point out some mistakes,my opponent won't probably listen to me.They will make some rather comments like "if you have doubt go check with a mod or a sensei".Well the fact is that they only will listen to mods and sensei's and their opinion alone.

 

[Phobos]

<.<
I feel kinda offended as you angrily throw all the "new gen" into the same bag
I would write something long but people did it for me already.

The better RPer I fight, the lesser is the changce of me getting into any argument. I just can't help it if I see something ridiculous as blocking a meteor sized firebal with same ranked pin. Mostly I just try to overlook things or just state what is wrong in my next move and continue- that is to help people not to make same mistake again.

People lack imagination and logic, that is what cause trouble..
and ofcourse, if you need some1 to constantly check if your opponent move is valid everytime you see something that "might" be wrong a bit- don't fingh, it is supposed to be fun

... fok dis..it turned out to be long anyway :/

 

[Scary Yamato]

Alright I have seriously had enough of seeing these kind of matches and results...

I recently I have been looking threw matches after matches and have noticed something that annoys me to no end, and that is someone winning or losing by technicalities.

The fact that someone is incapable of judging for themselves if a move is valid or not can be troublesome but to the extent of someone constantly running to a RP mod to validate someone's actions that you are fighting against is just pure bull shit and cowardice.

Obtaining a win threw technicalities is nothing, there is no skill there is nothing gained from it other than showing people that you are incapable of judging it for yourself and lack an imagination.

So what I suggest that should be done about this is.....in an tournament match or a bio test match or what have you. If you ask for validation of an opponents move from an outside source more than 3 times (and failed to prove them wrong all 3 times) should either lose or be incapable of asking for validation just so they can attempt to win threw technicalities.

It pisses me off to no end to see that the only ones here with a battle sense are us old timers while you newer rookies do nothing more than stay far away throwing nukes at one another and if your incapable of judging you run to a mod just to get them to make the final verdict of the match....which in the end result takes the fun out of the RP.

Now another thing that annoys me but is not quite as long or as much....

What you rookies call "Official" Matches. Where participants are restricted to only using the 5 basic elements, nin, tai, and genjutsu's.........There is Nothing official about that kind of match absolutely nothing that is what I consider a "Restriction" Match. A Truly "Official" match is when the participants are using everything they know and is an all out battle with 0 restrictions to what one can use.

Please do not post in this thread just stating
"I agree" or something to that degree, shows us that your nothing more than a novice rookie just trying to up their post count. Elaborate what you think.

@ bold: I actually have been using that to judge bio tests. When I am dion a battle test for a bio and they ask me about a move (boyond the normal clearifications) I actually count off on the test, because it tells me they dont know how the move works or how to use it. It doesnt happen that often but it does happen.

There have been some fights where one side asked me about thier opponents move for mutliple consecuative moves, which was a pain to check (since I wasnt a mod at the time). I dont think they should lose for having to check with a senior member, but if it comes to a point where you have to decide a winner and the fight is not finished, then I think it should count against that person. But that's this little Yamato's humble opinion.

I do think that this has originated from the evolution of the RP. Some people have been jaded because thier bios have been stolen and there has been the introduction of kumi stealing and bio stealing, so now peole are afraid to lose instead of just enjoying themselves.

Edit: As far as winning based on technicalities, I think it should only be used in tournament fights and battle tests since those grade your skill and knowledge. As far as regular fights go, if you screw up on a technicality, it shouldnt count as a loss, but rather a "miss". There have been more than a handfull of times when I screw up a move based on a technicality, like range or some other stupid detail. When that happens I suck it up and consider that a failed jutsu and then have to claw my way back. I hate having to edit my move. I prefer to let people see me screw up and then recover, so they know its not the end of the world. Thats my philosophy at least.

 

[Pervyy]

@ bold: I actually have been using that to judge bio tests. When I am dion a battle test for a bio and they ask me about a move (boyond the normal clearifications) I actually count off on the test, because it tells me they dont know how the move works or how to use it. It doesnt happen that often but it does happen.

There have been some fights where one side asked me about thier opponents move for mutliple consecuative moves, which was a pain to check (since I wasnt a mod at the time). I dont think they should lose for having to check with a senior member, but if it comes to a point where you have to decide a winner and the fight is not finished, then I think it should count against that person. But that's this little Yamato's humble opinion.

I do think that this has originated from the evolution of the RP. Some people have been jaded because thier bios have been stolen and there has been the introduction of kumi stealing and bio stealing, so now peole are afraid to lose instead of just enjoying themselves.

Edit: As far as winning based on technicalities, I think it should only be used in tournament fights and battle tests since those grade your skill and knowledge. As far as regular fights go, if you screw up on a technicality, it shouldnt count as a loss, but rather a "miss". There have been more than a handfull of times when I screw up a move based on a technicality, like range or some other stupid detail. When that happens I suck it up and consider that a failed jutsu and then have to claw my way back. I hate having to edit my move. I prefer to let people see me screw up and then recover, so they know its not the end of the world. Thats my philosophy at least.

SY speaks sense

RP = about fun

You mess up on test/tourney = try harder next time xd

Don't want stuff stolen? = Put no stealing

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

@ bold: I actually have been using that to judge bio tests. When I am dion a battle test for a bio and they ask me about a move (boyond the normal clearifications) I actually count off on the test, because it tells me they dont know how the move works or how to use it. It doesnt happen that often but it does happen.

There have been some fights where one side asked me about thier opponents move for mutliple consecuative moves, which was a pain to check (since I wasnt a mod at the time). I dont think they should lose for having to check with a senior member, but if it comes to a point where you have to decide a winner and the fight is not finished, then I think it should count against that person. But that's this little Yamato's humble opinion.

I do think that this has originated from the evolution of the RP. Some people have been jaded because thier bios have been stolen and there has been the introduction of kumi stealing and bio stealing, so now peole are afraid to lose instead of just enjoying themselves.

Edit: As far as winning based on technicalities, I think it should only be used in tournament fights and battle tests since those grade your skill and knowledge. As far as regular fights go, if you screw up on a technicality, it shouldnt count as a loss, but rather a "miss". There have been more than a handfull of times when I screw up a move based on a technicality, like range or some other stupid detail. When that happens I suck it up and consider that a failed jutsu and then have to claw my way back. I hate having to edit my move. I prefer to let people see me screw up and then recover, so they know its not the end of the world. Thats my philosophy at least.

*Remembers that for when I take a bio test* >.>

 

[black uchiha]

There are many different views on this matter, and mine is the same as some and different from others. But I just want to state this, if you don't like when someone beats you on technicalities...then don't make those mistakes. And its that simple.

The way I see it is like this.
1) If it was a fight in real life, would you ask for a redo?...and before some of yall start bashing me saying "this is not real life" look a #2

2) This I a RPG of naruto (redundant I know but follow me). And in the show battles are won on technicalities all the time Naruto vs kakuza, naruto vs neji, neji vs kidomaru...etc just to name a few; I could go on but I'm sure you get the point.

In conclusion, its part of this system, there for it is how some rp. Some nuke some trap some wait for mistakes, it just is. But as for looking for technicalities that are not their is lame, but if one is made and you can exploit it; why not. There are many things imo that are wrong with the RPG but we're still here so it can't be that bad.