Team Uzumaki vs Team Uchiha
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luffichinaru
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tough match would call it a draw none is better madara has got fighting experience and itachi is smart
I say team Uchiha simply because Madara can detain the Kyuubi (has been stated in the past) and/or Itachi can place him under a genjutsu (has been proven in the past) or use Kotoamatsukami on the Kyuubi directly to not aid Naruto (sharingan has been proven in the past to allow the user to confront the Kyuubi within Naruto's mind).
After the Kyuubi is detained, Naruto is as good as done, which leaves Nagato alone to deal with both Itachi and Madara. Now, in my own opinion I think Madara can solo Nagato simply because he has more experience with the Rinnegan and has the added powers of the EMS. In addition to Itachi's brains and power I think that they could handle Nagato.
After the Kyuubi is detained, Naruto is as good as done, which leaves Nagato alone to deal with both Itachi and Madara. Now, in my own opinion I think Madara can solo Nagato simply because he has more experience with the Rinnegan and has the added powers of the EMS. In addition to Itachi's brains and power I think that they could handle Nagato.
spideysenses
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Sad how everyone easily converted to Uzumaki fans. Why do people underestimate Madara. Not only achieving EMS he also got Rinnegan. He's the only reason Nagato has Rinnegan and Nagato is too naive. Itachi never stresses in battle because he pinpoints the enemy weakness. Madara also learned how to use the 1st hokage kekkei genkai. Madara was pretty swift and he only got beatened because it was 5 kages vs madara.
i am starting to doubt this further now i think both teams have a shot becos if madara can suppress naruto's kyubi chakra with mokuton then this match is done for. And if uchihas have KA its also done but madara's suppression of kyubi is crucial also
aashish1996
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Naruto isn't just going to stand there....
Spoiler Alert:
His new mode allows him to move faster than lightening!!! Literally!!! He 's probably faster than minato's speed (not with FTG because that's a S/T jutsu). Team Uzumaki for sure... as of now. Naruto is just too fast for anybody to handle right now (in my opinion)
aashish1996
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Naruto isn't just going to stand there....
Spoiler Alert:
His new mode allows him to move faster than lightening!!! Literally!!! He 's probably faster than minato's speed (not with FTG because that's a S/T jutsu). Team Uzumaki for sure... as of now. Naruto is just too fast for anybody to handle right now (in my opinion) Yes, he is overpowered but the manga supports it
Yes, this is true. Naruto is OP right now, however (and dont take this to heart, considering I only have one chapter of evidence to support this) its his base speed thats fast as f*ck. His attacks themselves so far have been manageable, certainly slow enough for a quick genjutsu. And eventually he has to attack them, and so (again, I only say this until proven otherwise) if his attack speed is the same as his average KM, then im pretty sure Madara can catch him with Mykuton -have no clue if thats spelled right xd-
naruto1246
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team uzumaki because naruto's strong and fast as f*** and nagato spent most of his life training the rinningan so he should be better at controlling it then madara (that madara using the mukoten(spelling) thing on naruto wont happen if he cant catch him) madara's wood style would be a problem though
if naruto fights itachi he wont have to do it alone because both nagatos and naruto's summons will help alot but itachi is smart and mite be able to beat some of the summons before losing then its madara vs nagato weakened naruto and a couple summons imo i could be wrong
if naruto fights itachi he wont have to do it alone because both nagatos and naruto's summons will help alot but itachi is smart and mite be able to beat some of the summons before losing then its madara vs nagato weakened naruto and a couple summons imo i could be wrong
Reborn
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Given what we have at this moment it looks like the Uzumaki have the upper hand.
To those who say Madara could supress the Kyuubi chakra, this is subject to debate as the Kyuubi is now under Naruto's control, we can argue Madara's EMS vs the 4 Symbols Seal, but if we take a look how Minato broke Tobi's control over it with a contract breaking seal (probably not Uzumaki but still) I doubt he could. Rinningan hasn't been shown to be able to have the same capailities of containing a Bijuu. Yes the Sage of Six Paths had it but Nagato who has had the eyes for about 20 some odd years didn't demonstrate such abilities, I'm pretty sure Madara has had the eyes for less then that. He may be a true master of Dojutsu but I'm not entirly sure of Rinningan givnig him an edge.
It's not much subject of contreversy to talk about Hashirama's cells. Yes, Hashirama's wood release had the powers to contain Bijuu, however he had this power beacause of his bloodline, shinobi who have tid-bits of his cells are just like Kakashi with the Sharingan, they only have a portion of the powers of that bloodline. Danzo, Zetsu even, Yamato, Madara they all have partial amounts and as we've come to see Yamato only had the ability to control Naruto when he had the necklace of Shodaime.
I doubt Madara has any influence or at least not influence stronge enough to rip away or take Naruto's powers away from him.
Meteor is taboo as it would kill everybody including Madara.
Itachi seems to be the underdog in this situation, as well as Nagato. Personally I'm a Nagato>Itachi guy so I see Nagato winning his bout with Itachi, and if not, if we placed Naruto against Itachi, although it wouldn't be easy, I have very little doubt in my mind that Itachi would win if Naruto had full strength.
Not completely sure with this battle but it feels as if the Uzumaki might pull this one off barely as the deciding factors are really Naruto and Madara.
To those who say Madara could supress the Kyuubi chakra, this is subject to debate as the Kyuubi is now under Naruto's control, we can argue Madara's EMS vs the 4 Symbols Seal, but if we take a look how Minato broke Tobi's control over it with a contract breaking seal (probably not Uzumaki but still) I doubt he could. Rinningan hasn't been shown to be able to have the same capailities of containing a Bijuu. Yes the Sage of Six Paths had it but Nagato who has had the eyes for about 20 some odd years didn't demonstrate such abilities, I'm pretty sure Madara has had the eyes for less then that. He may be a true master of Dojutsu but I'm not entirly sure of Rinningan givnig him an edge.
It's not much subject of contreversy to talk about Hashirama's cells. Yes, Hashirama's wood release had the powers to contain Bijuu, however he had this power beacause of his bloodline, shinobi who have tid-bits of his cells are just like Kakashi with the Sharingan, they only have a portion of the powers of that bloodline. Danzo, Zetsu even, Yamato, Madara they all have partial amounts and as we've come to see Yamato only had the ability to control Naruto when he had the necklace of Shodaime.
I doubt Madara has any influence or at least not influence stronge enough to rip away or take Naruto's powers away from him.
Meteor is taboo as it would kill everybody including Madara.
Itachi seems to be the underdog in this situation, as well as Nagato. Personally I'm a Nagato>Itachi guy so I see Nagato winning his bout with Itachi, and if not, if we placed Naruto against Itachi, although it wouldn't be easy, I have very little doubt in my mind that Itachi would win if Naruto had full strength.
Not completely sure with this battle but it feels as if the Uzumaki might pull this one off barely as the deciding factors are really Naruto and Madara.
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#1- Madara's ability to control the Kyuubi are limited to a jinshurikiless Kyuubi, they don't work if the kyuubi has a host, this was why Mito became the Kyuubi's host during the battle of Madara against Hashirama. The mere fact of being sealed inside a Jinshuriki negates the Uchiha ability to control the Bijuus. As for Itachi using KA or any othe Genjutso for that matter. You have to realize that the drill of a perfect jinshuriki having a defense against Genjutso by being awakened by their tailed beast will work the other way around if the beast itself is the target of the Genjutso. As for the KA I urge you to take a moment to go back and read how easy it was to break it when Danzo putted Mifune under it at the 5 Kages meeting. KA is a powerful Genjutso that has the particularity of being unnoticed by it's target, it's still a Genjutso though. So the moment either that Naruto noticed something was going wrong he would wake up the Kurama and the same goes the other way around.
#2- You do realize that what you said here is just purely idiotic, right? Madara said himself that he obtained the Rinnegan shortly before he died. Nagato awakened his when he was little and died when he was like late twenties or early thirties.
You have absolutely no proof of this. The only one stating that the Rinnegan was his was Tobi who lies pretty much every time he says something.
Madara can't suppress the Kyuubi chakra with mouton because he would never catch Naruto at his current speed. As for KA as explained above it can be broken if you have a partner that realizes that you have been targeted.
I hope you are joking because otherwise you statement is just purely retarded.
If you are referring to Mokuton, then whatever we say in this matter is indeed speculation but I don't think Mokuton is known for it's speed and I'm not seeing how it would catch a supper fast Naruto. As for a Genjutso unless it's Tsukyomi I don't think it will work and even Tsukyomi would only lasts a couple of secs and it's not like Naruto is in short of chakra to survive it and if this manga has showed anything is that Naruto is the strongest will in the whole Narutoverse, so I hardly think he would get broken by Itachi's Tsukyomi.
JitsuganV2
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Unless team Uchiha can stall long enough so Naruto's new KM runs out(5mins), then its team Uzumaki FTW.
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