[Taka's] Senju undoubtedly overpowers Uchiha

[Icelerate]

The Uchiha center around Genjutsu. Although some members, like Itachi and Sasuke, have great taijutsu skills, both their ninjutsu and taijutsu fall short when compared to the Senju. Amaterasu and abilities like such do not have a place in this argument because they are granted by their visual prowess.

Why are you restricting stuff like amaterasu just because they are granted by their visual prowess? The Uchiha are mostly about visual prowess while the Senju are all about their strong physical bodies so I don't get why you are restricting MS techniques and not restricting the Senju's enormous physical stamina, strength and life force. The Senjus collectively have wood release, earth release, water release, bringer of darkness and medical ninjutsu. The Uchiha collectively have fire release, lightning release, water release, paralysis genjutsu, tsukiyomi, amaterasu, enton manipulation, different stages and variations of susanoo, izanagi, izanami, Kotoamatsukami and the Rinnegan also belongs to the Uchiha since the sharingan evolves to it. Quite clearly the Uchiha are superior in ninjutsu. They are also much better in genjutsu as well as their genjutsus are more OP and they also have more versatility when it comes to genjutsu. The Uchiha also have better speed feats than the Senju clan and since they have sharingan precog, it is safe to say they are faster than their rivals. I agree that the Senju have better taijutsu, stamina, physical strength, etc.

Lmao ems madara doesn't have wood release! Lmfao noobs. Has hi solos all uchiha! With poison forest n huge wood release and water and earth techs. Then add in tobirama and his Edo jutsu Plus space time plus large water release plus tsunade n her healing abilities!
Uchiha genjutsu <senju gen.
Sasano<wood style
Amaratsu useless v tsunade
Thanks for reading haha

How is amaterasu useless VS Tsunade. Those flames would keep burning until she turns to ashes. How is senju genjutsu>Uchiha genjutsu when the Uchiha have those haxed eyes that cast genjutsu and the Senjus don't?

 

[Minator93]

EDO Madara yes, but you clearly did not read my thread for I explained what is wrong with him. EMS Madara, the real uchiha, no. He gets stomped by Hashirama.

Nope not even Edo Madara can do it. Tobirama is the Inventor of the ET he can easily end ET Madara.

Back on topic a very good thread. +rep

 

[sG Taka]

Lol when you are a fanboy you ignore the facts xD lol idk why uchiha fan boys are the worst lol don't get me wrong madara is one of my fave characters i like him alot more then hashi but the senju are more versatile in skills and would ultimately win

Good thread, the Senju are better in the aspect as a WHOLE CLAN. +rep

Thanks for the support guys.

Why are you restricting stuff like amaterasu just because they are granted by their visual prowess? The Uchiha are mostly about visual prowess while the Senju are all about their strong physical bodies so I don't get why you are restricting MS techniques and not restricting the Senju's enormous physical stamina, strength and life force. The Senjus collectively have wood release, earth release, water release, bringer of darkness and medical ninjutsu. The Uchiha collectively have fire release, lightning release, water release, paralysis genjutsu, tsukiyomi, amaterasu, enton manipulation, different stages and variations of susanoo, izanagi, izanami, Kotoamatsukami and the Rinnegan also belongs to the Uchiha since the sharingan evolves to it. Quite clearly the Uchiha are superior in ninjutsu. They are also much better in genjutsu as well as their genjutsus are more OP and they also have more versatility when it comes to genjutsu. The Uchiha also have better speed feats than the Senju clan and since they have sharingan precog, it is safe to say they are faster than their rivals. I agree that the Senju have better taijutsu, stamina, physical strength, etc.

How is amaterasu useless VS Tsunade. Those flames would keep burning until she turns to ashes. How is senju genjutsu>Uchiha genjutsu when the Uchiha have those haxed eyes that cast genjutsu and the Senjus don't?

I disagree, the Uchiha are only better in Genjutsu, because from their eyes comes everything they're capable of. IMO the ninjutsu features the Senju have, such as the best Medical Nin, the only and best Wood Release and the Best Water release and more are better than the ninjutsu the Uchiha have to offer. The Senju are more varied (but the excellence does not decrease), they have proved to be way more powerful than most ninjas and have led a far greater legacy than the Uchiha. As a Clan, they are better.

I agree however, that the other post you quoted makes little sense.

 

[sG Taka]

Nope not even Edo Madara can do it. Tobirama is the Inventor of the ET he can easily end ET Madara.

Back on topic a very good thread. +rep

Well, thanks for your perspective! and for the REP!

 

[Dantee]

Lol so much bias. Completely disagree sorry. Edo Madara is still Madara Uchiha blood or not.

 

[Retsu]

You know senju is superior when the two main antagonist have both been proven to have hashi's dna, and remember they had that one girl senju who was supposed to be really good in genjutsu

I agree 100%

 

[sG Taka]

Lol so much bias. Completely disagree sorry. Edo Madara is still Madara Uchiha blood or not.

He's still an Uchiha, but his features are not clan based, they're not bloodline. If you do not see this, then you are biased. Don't give meanings to my words I did not put. Even with Edo Madara, Senju is still better because my argument continues. Clearly shows you did not read.

You know senju is superior when the two main antagonist have both been proven to have hashi's dna, and remember they had that one girl senju who was supposed to be really good in genjutsu

I agree 100%

Thank you!

 

[custom33]

Uchihas win since Edo was not proven to be mastered to the extent oro uses it, Itachi was best in genjutsu, and Madara eventually gained most of Hashis ability which makes Hashi pointless the senju clan will die off when Tsunade dies while obito and sasuke are still alive all Senju has is tsunade and hype

 

[sG Taka]

Uchihas win since Edo was not proven to be mastered to the extent oro uses it, Itachi was best in genjutsu, and Madara eventually gained most of Hashis ability which makes Hashi pointless the senju clan will die off when Tsunade dies while obito and sasuke are still alive all Senju has is tsunade and hype

Tobirama created Edo, nothing gets past that, not even mastering it, a Senju invented this Kinjutsu from scratch. He knows the technique. Itachi was excellent in Genjutsu, still, not enough. Exactly, lol Madara only overpowers Hashi with HIS features..but like I said, Wood Style and unlimited chakra ARE NOT PART OF THE UCHIHA BLOODLINE SO THEY CANNOT BE COUNTED IN A CLAN VS CLAN ARGUMENT.

 

[Sensei of So6p]

I dont understand how someone can say Uchicha wins this... If the uchicha wins this then why do they need power from a Senju- tobi, madara. Second point is, those who say madara wins, come on even madara admitted that hashi can stomp him, and only he can stop him. Even in his edo form he is humble enough to admit this...uchicha fanboys everywhere

 

[shiswi akola madara]

madara solo's that whole list

this is the best post i've seen all day. + rep

 

[sG Taka]

I dont understand how someone can say Uchicha wins this... If the uchicha wins this then why do they need power from a Senju- tobi, madara. Second point is, those who say madara wins, come on even madara admitted that hashi can stomp him, and only he can stop him. Even in his edo form he is humble enough to admit this...uchicha fanboys everywhere

Thank you, I agree with you.
Bold: Nice additional point!

this is the best post i've seen all day. + rep

If you're being sarcastic, good; if not, well, you're as lost as he is.

 

[VongolaX]

He follows up to SO6P, next to Hashirama, Obito and Nagato. So yes, I agree.



Their army meaning who exactly? Nonetheless, I agree, Edo Madara would most likely beat Hashirama because the only way to defeat him would be to seal him. That's another main point of my thread, that as a clan they are better, in almost every aspect.

Oh becuz i hear a lot of people say nagato would kick his ass, and i want to make sure someone else agreed

 

[sG Taka]

Oh becuz i hear a lot of people say nagato would kick his ass, and i want to make sure someone else agreed

Well there you go, haha.

 

[GiantShuriken]

I'd go with Senju if they weren't extinct.

 

[Stark]

Okay.. Name powerful Senju..

Hashirama

Tobirama

Tsunade


Okay now name powerful Uchiha..

Madara

Obito

Itachi

Izuna

Sasuke

Shisui

Need I go on?

 

[sG Taka]

Okay.. Name powerful Senju..

Hashirama

Tobirama

Tsunade


Okay now name powerful Uchiha..

Madara

Obito

Itachi

Izuna

Sasuke

Shisui

Need I go on?

First of all, Izuna and Shishiu are pure speculation; secondly, this is not about that. What you have said adds to the argument but like I have stated before, we are talking about the members, their features, their accomplishments, both personal and to the community and their legacy; these are clan feats. Ultimately, as a clan, the Senju are better for all of the reasons I have already stated. Instead of doing this, yes, do go on, but make sure to counter my points. (I.E. Tobirama's creation of the Edo Tensei, Tsunade's founding of the medical system and its laws, Hashirama's renowned Wood Release and victory over both EMS Madara and the Kyuubi and such)

 

[Dantee]

He's still an Uchiha, but his features are not clan based, they're not bloodline. If you do not see this, then you are biased. Don't give meanings to my words I did not put. Even with Edo Madara, Senju is still better because my argument continues. Clearly shows you did not read.




Thank you!

O thats funny you count Nagato as a part of the Uzamaki clan but clearly has power outside his clan. When he is not even part of or born of his clan to begin with. Madara was the leader of his clan who used outside power to make himself stronger. Even so if you rank up all known Uchihas versus all known Senjus :rofl:

 

[sravan]

senju are best and out class uchiha in every aspect...
nice thread

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

I thought this was obvious
except the uchiha dic.riders will start crying a river U_U