Taijutsu. Who is better? Naruto or Sasuke?

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Why do Sasuke fans love to live in the past? They fought in hand to hand at VoTE with no type of enhancement, and they equaled each other. You are going to have to accept that fact. What Sasuke did in Part 1 is completely irrelevant.

Back in Part 1 Sasuke was stronger than Naruto, but in Part 2, Sasuke needs the power of the 9 Bijuu to fight against a full power Naruto. The past is the past. This is the present.

I am not saying that Sasuke is stronger than Naruto at all.

They are equal by the end of the manga.

I was just addressing the topic of this thread, that Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu, and provided evidence.

flashier doesn't equal better. Sasuke has the flashiest tai in the show but it's nowhere near the best.

It's strength and stamina vs skill and agility.

In terms of technique, the later is better.
 
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I am not saying that Sasuke is stronger than Naruto at all.

They are equal by the end of the manga.

I was just addressing the topic of this thread, that Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu, and provided evidence.

You just completely ignored the whole point of the post. Not sure if you really missed it, or you just ignored it cause you can't counter it.

Why do Sasuke fans love to live in the past? They fought in hand to hand at VoTE with no type of enhancement, and they equaled each other. You are going to have to accept that fact. What Sasuke did in Part 1 is completely irrelevant.

Lol.
 

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I am not saying that Sasuke is stronger than Naruto at all.

They are equal by the end of the manga.

I was just addressing the topic of this thread, that Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu, and provided evidence.



It's strength and stamina vs skill and agility.

In terms of technique, the later is better.
The latter is not better because the former has better feats in that field.
 

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You just completely ignored the whole point of the post. Not sure if you really missed it, or you just ignored it cause you can't counter it.



Lol.

lol what?

I didn't ignore anything I couldn't counter, I already addressed your comment.

They equaled each other in VoTE that's correct, I acknowledge that, overall they are equal, however Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu.

And your "living in the past" statement is a complete joke. These are still feats Sasuke showed, you can't ignore them just because he did them when he was younger, they are more impressive than anything Naruto showed in the entire manga when it comes to Taijutsu, which is the topic at hand.
 

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lol what?

I didn't ignore anything I couldn't counter, I already addressed your comment.

They equaled each other in VoTE that's correct, I acknowledge that, overall they are equal, however Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu.

And your "living in the past" statement is a complete joke. These are still feats Sasuke showed, you can't ignore them just because he did them when he was younger, they are more impressive than anything Naruto showed in the entire manga when it comes to Taijutsu, which is the topic at hand.

If two people who are physical equals fight, the one with the better skill would obviously win. So no, Sasuke doesn't have more skill in Taijutsu. If he was more skilled then he would've beaten Naruto despite Naruto being his phyiscal equal.

Yes, we can. Anyone with common sense would tell you that. We are comparing Naruto and Sasuke AS OF NOW. Not as of Part 1, so showing us Part 1 feats is irrelevant when it doesn't prove or support the assertion that Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu than Naruto is in Part 2.
 

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flashier doesn't equal better. Sasuke has the flashiest tai in the show but it's nowhere near the best.
Thank you, Based God! I think this is one of the main reason Sasuke was considered the better taijutsu user, when they both clerly have the same exact stats in base.

Btw, did you read the latest chapter of Bleach?
 

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If two people who are physical equals fight, the one with the better skill would obviously win. So no, Sasuke doesn't have more skill in Taijutsu. If he was more skilled then he would've beaten Naruto despite Naruto being his phyiscal equal.

Well, I actually don't think they are physical equals, I think Naruto has the stronger body, but Sasuke has the better skill.

Yes, we can. Anyone with common sense would tell you that. We are comparing Naruto and Sasuke AS OF NOW. Not as of Part 1, so showing us Part 1 feats is irrelevant when it doesn't prove or support the assertion that Sasuke is more skilled in Taijutsu than Naruto is in Part 2.

Wrong, these part 1 feats are very relevant, because they show us what Sasuke is capable of when it comes to Taijutsu, again, they are more impressive than any Taijutsu from Naruto in the entire manga, which includes part 2.

Both Naruto and Sasuke are not dependant on their Taijutsu but more so on their Ninjutsu, which is why I went back and posted those awesome Taijutsu feats Sasuke showed when he was much weaker than he is right now.
 

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I don't think so.. IIRC Kakashi said Sasike copy lee's speed.

I strictly remember Sasuke copying Lee's Lotus and 1 shotting that Sound Ninjutsu with a Lotus knock off
 

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Thank you, Based God! I think this is one of the main reason Sasuke was considered the better taijutsu user, when they both clerly have the same exact stats in base.

Btw, did you read the latest chapter of Bleach?
Exactly, some Sasuke fans are simpletons who are attracted to flashy shit. But yeah I did, really interested to see how Uryuu fares against Ichigo, also who will face the other elite guard.
 

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Well, I actually don't think they are physical equals, I think Naruto has the stronger body, but Sasuke has the better skill.



Wrong, these part 1 feats are very relevant, because they show us what Sasuke is capable of when it comes to Taijutsu, again, they are more impressive than any Taijutsu from Naruto in the entire manga, which includes part 2.

Both Naruto and Sasuke are not dependant on their Taijutsu but more so on their Ninjutsu, which is why I went back and posted those awesome Taijutsu feats Sasuke showed when he was much weaker than he is right now.
What? Do you really want me to bring out the manga scans?
 

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Well, I actually don't think they are physical equals, I think Naruto has the stronger body, but Sasuke has the better skill.

Wrong, and wrong. Naruto and Sasuke were shown to be physical equals at VoTE, and if Sasuke had the better skill, he would've beaten Naruto. Except he didn't. They tied.


Wrong, these part 1 feats are very relevant, because they show us what Sasuke is capable of when it comes to Taijutsu, again, they are more impressive than any Taijutsu from Naruto in the entire manga, which includes part 2.
If we were talking about Sasuke's growth alone, then yes. But we are comparing him to Naruto, who has also grown since Part 2, so no, it makes absolutely no sense to look at their Part 1 feats. That's like saying Player X gets shitstomped by Player Y in a fight because that's what happened 10 years ago, even though both Players fought again recently, and tied. Doesn't make sense.

Both Naruto and Sasuke are not dependant on their Taijutsu but more so on their Ninjutsu, which is why I went back and posted those awesome Taijutsu feats Sasuke showed when he was much weaker than he is right now.

We have panels from the last 5 chapters of the manga that show Sasuke=Naruto in Taijutsu. No amount of Part 1 feats is going to change that.
 

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What? Do you really want me to bring out the manga scans?

lol that's funny, why include a text "explanation" of the scans you provided? People can judge better by seeing pictures rather than reading a random person's explanation.

But anyways, this still doesn't refute what I said.

Sasuke has better Taijutsu technique and skill, and that's ok, you don't need to be mad if anyone says that Sasuke is better than Naruto at something.

Naruto has better strength, Sasuke has better skill.
 

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lol that's funny, why include a text "explanation" of the scans you provided? People can judge better by seeing pictures rather than reading a random person's explanation.

But anyways, this still doesn't refute what I said.

Sasuke has better Taijutsu technique and skill, and that's ok, you don't need to be mad if anyone says that Sasuke is better than Naruto at something.

Naruto has better strength, Sasuke has better skill.
*sigh* Being flashy doesn't mean he's better, the first time Sasuke fought Lee should of shown us this.
 

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If we were talking about Sasuke's growth alone, then yes. But we are comparing him to Naruto, who has also grown since Part 2, so no, it makes absolutely no sense to look at their Part 1 feats. That's like saying Player X gets shitstomped by Player Y in a fight because that's what happened 10 years ago, even though both Players fought again recently, and tied. Doesn't make sense.

But I am not saying Sasuke is better than Naruto at Taijutsu because he beat him 10 years ago.

I am saying Sasuke is more skilled and has better Taijutsu technique based on his many shown feats which include his fight with Naruto, and also include his Shishi rendan against that fodder, and his fight against Gaara.

Wrong, and wrong. Naruto and Sasuke were shown to be physical equals at VoTE, and if Sasuke had the better skill, he would've beaten Naruto. Except he didn't. They tied.

We have panels from the last 5 chapters of the manga that show Sasuke=Naruto in Taijutsu. No amount of Part 1 feats is going to change that.

We will keep looping the same arguments, I think its strength vs skill, you think its just equal vs equal, lets agree to disagree.

*sigh* Being flashy doesn't mean he's better, the first time Sasuke fought Lee should of shown us this.

lol that wasn't even a fight, it was a clinic. That was before Sasuke vastly improved his Taijutsu, it was actually part of his inspiration.
 
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lol that's funny, why include a text "explanation" of the scans you provided? People can judge better by seeing pictures rather than reading a random person's explanation.

But anyways, this still doesn't refute what I said.

Sasuke has better Taijutsu technique and skill, and that's ok, you don't need to be mad if anyone says that Sasuke is better than Naruto at something.

Naruto has better strength, Sasuke has better skill.
Refute what you said Lol

The manga contradicts with every word you have sprouted about Sasuke's wank of martial art/taijutsu

Part 2 > Part 1
697 Sasuke > Early versions of Sasuke.

Care again?
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Wow his Taijutsu has so much skill. Kicking a guy from the ground :|

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I rest my case ~
 

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But I am not saying Sasuke is better than Naruto at Taijutsu because he beat him 10 years ago.

Lol, and this only proves that the analogy went right over your head. What Sasuke did before is irrelevant when we have proof that he's on par with Naruto in Taijutsu now.

We will keep looping the same arguments, I think its strength vs skill, you think its just equal vs equal, lets agree to disagree.

We keep looping the same arguments because you keep ignoring the clear cut facts. I say it's equal vs equal because that's literally what the manga shows. It being strength vs. skill has been nothing but your opinion from the start.

But fine, we'll agree to disagree.
 

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But I am not saying Sasuke is better than Naruto at Taijutsu because he beat him 10 years ago.

I am saying Sasuke is more skilled and has better Taijutsu technique based on his many shown feats which include his fight with Naruto, and also include his Shishi rendan against that fodder, and his fight against Gaara.



We will keep looping the same arguments, I think its strength vs skill, you think its just equal vs equal, lets agree to disagree.



lol that wasn't even a fight, it was a clinic. That was before Sasuke vastly improved his Taijutsu, it was actually part of his inspiration.
Point still stands, you insisit that his tai is more skilfull because it's flashier when that's clearly not the case. Naruto's performance against the cloud Jonin shows more tai skill than Sasuke ever has.
 

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Exactly, some Sasuke fans are simpletons who are attracted to flashy shit. But yeah I did, really interested to see how Uryuu fares against Ichigo, also who will face the other elite guard.
Never understood that either. Now there are a bunch of excuses being resorted after what happened this fight. Rasengan looks dull as ****, yet it still gets shit done even without an element compared to Chidori.

I can't wait to see Uryuu with his "A" designation. I also am interested in Jugram's "B", which is most likely "The Balance." I hope the Elite Guards don't get screwed over like the other Sternritters.

Last but not least, Based Aizen and his pirate crew.
 

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Can you guys stop the shitposting and just accept that people have different opinions on what skill and martial arts truly means? Sasuke fans think that someone who uses partially real life martial arts is the better martial artist and Naruto fans think that someone who uses invisible punches and whatever is the better one. Why do you guys insist on making this a Sasuke VS Naruto fight. This is irrelevant to most people and those people made this clear. Stop wanking. They are equals, that's not even what people like Endles tried getting across. Sasuke used for example Capoeira VS Gaara and Naruto on the roof. Look it up and stop calling it "just flashy".
 

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Refute what you said Lol

The manga contradicts with every word you have sprouted about Sasuke's wank of martial art/taijutsu

Part 2 > Part 1
697 Sasuke > Early versions of Sasuke.

Care again?
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Wow his Taijutsu has so much skill. Kicking a guy from the ground :|

The only scans you need to interpert correctly are these:
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I rest my case ~

I can't view those images.

There was no wank actually, there was posting of feats which showed Sasuke is more skilled than Naruto, and you don't like that.

I say Sasuke is more skilled based on what we have seen from him, you are right, part 2 Sasuke is better than the earlier versions of him, but that doesn't mean we need to negate all feats both characters showed before their final fight, that's selective reading.

The final fight was not heavily reliant on Taijutsu, they started off with Ninjutsu then resorted to Taijutsu only when they ran out of chakra and were exhausted. There was no skill in that final brawl, they were both too tired to dodge anything, they were just throwing punches and kicks and most of them landed.

I stand by my claim, in terms of Taijutsu technique and skill, Sasuke is better.
 
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