[Taijutsu] Tsunade vs. Gai

[Lord Tywin]

Wonder why Orochimaru couldn't dodge her punch despite her laying down and him being like atleast a meter or 2 away..

Wonder why Shizune couldn't dodge it.. despite Tsunade stand couple of meters away.

you think her punches are slow... why call them slow instead of saying you don't know much about her punches?

Yeah Oro was even in a worse condition than Tsunade in that fight. Oro's not nearly as fast as Gai.
lmao Shizune
Call them slow because someone like Gai would have no problem dodging them.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Lol stfu you just tried to bring down Tsunade's skill by taking into account the rank while Gai's are exactly the same.

Yeah, a C-rank taijutsu move definitely outweighs the skill of a taijutsu master. Such a solid point you got there.

 

[Mihael Keehl]

Nope, she can easily hit pressure points leading to slowness in Gai's movements. Gonna need legit feats of him even having "awesome" taijutsu in his base that Tsunade can't take.

With what speed? She's slow as shit.

Tier 3.5, Gai is roof tier at 5.0.

 

[RedRobin]

Yeah, a C-rank taijutsu move definitely outweighs the skill of a taijutsu master. Such a solid point you got there.

Now you are just trolling because you made a stupid point.

I didnt say shit about rank, you brought it up and then I pointed out how Gai's taijustu attacks have the same low ranks.

 

[Joker]

Wonder why Orochimaru couldn't dodge her punch despite her laying down and him being like atleast a meter or 2 away..

Wonder why Shizune couldn't dodge it.. despite Tsunade stand couple of meters away.

you think her punches are slow... why call them slow instead of saying you don't know much about her punches?

Orochimaru was in HORRIBLE condition, his arms were rotting, and he was sick, please strop trying to take advantage of her feats against a dying man to validate her taijutsu skills.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yeah Oro was even in a worse condition than Tsunade in that fight. Oro's not nearly as fast as Gai.
lmao Shizune
Call them slow because someone like Gai would have no problem dodging them.

@bold a person with 4+ in speed couldn't dodge her punch despite her laying down and being slashed up and so on and him being couple meters away.

"lmao" away homes.. not gonna change the fact you are trying to base your argument on a stupid idea of him being "too fast"... when he needs Gates in situations where Tsunade herself in base would be enough.

Someone like Gai can't dodge them in close range CQC, no matter how much you want to believe he will.



He needs 5th gate+ to take her on in a physical combat.

Orochimaru was in HORRIBLE condition, his arms were rotting, and he was sick, please strop trying to take advantage of her feats against a dying man to validate her taijutsu skills.

@bold, too much fan-fic for ya homes.

Both were in a horrible condition. Unless you think have a deep wound in middle of chest going from right underneath ytour neck to middle of torso is "good condition"..

Show me how his legs were restricted, and then i'll take your whole "sickness" thing . He had shown good display of speed before that.. And he even had the upper hand.

 

[RedRobin]

With what speed? She's slow as shit.

Tier 3.5, Gai is roof tier at 5.0.

3.5 for rusty Tsunade.....

 

[RedRobin]

So? Chakra=spiritual energy+physical energy. Spiritual energy=experience, physical energy=exercise. Her technique was rusty, her fighting skill was rusty, but her actual traits weren't that different, nothing close to warranting a stamina comparable to Gai's. Her experience was unchanged as well. So regardless of what she did after that, she isn't close to Gai's stamina, who is consistently increasing his stamina through both experience AND hard work.

And? How exactly would her hand seals and stamina have been obtained by that fight alone? She showed no hand signs worthy of a 4, nor any stamina feats. lolwat, Kishi is clearly stating her stamina from what he wants her stamina to be, not from what she has shown in her Sannin fight.

Ranks are only the difficulty to learn a technique, nothing to do with the ability itself. Not that such a slow kick would ever make contact with Gai in the first place.

Part 1 Tsunade was super rusty. Her muscles and body were far from fighting condition. But thats where her DB stats were taken from. Past performance, by the time DB3 came out Tsunade hadnt fought or gained any feats within that time.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Now you are just trolling because you made a stupid point.

I didnt say shit about rank, you brought it up and then I pointed out how Gai's taijustu attacks have the same low ranks.

I made a stupid point? Or that your point was extremely stupid to begin with. Your underlining in that databook description was alluding to her taijutsu skill. A C-Rank move. That doesn't come close to outweighing the fact that it was stated that Gai is a taijutsu master. Do you comprehend now? Taijutsu master>a single C-rank Taijutsu move. Your weak argumentation holds no weight. It proved nothing.

 

[Rιver]

I have to say PawsX and KingHashirama have won this debate. FT and Proof have brought zero legit facts to the table while PawsX went savage mode and got a Databook, brought a C-rank; whoa I know guys. C. Rank. Jutsu from Tsunade. That is, like above Kage level.

 

[RedRobin]

I made a stupid point? Or that your point was extremely stupid to begin with. Your underlining in that databook description was alluding to her taijutsu skill. A C-Rank move. That doesn't come close to outweighing the fact that it was stated that Gai is a taijutsu master. Do you comprehend now? Taijutsu master>a single C-rank Taijutsu move. Your weak argumentation holds no weight. It proved nothing.

So Jiraiya stated Tsunade's combat skills were unmatched......

I was brought up that scan to show how flexible Tsunade is in Taijustu.

 

[KingHashirama]

ive told you that Oro was ****ed up during that encounter. Dude was literally shaking the whole time. Gai is faster than Oro, with better reaction feats.

Literally wasting my time with this clown. Tsunade gets shat on in pure Taijutsu without regeneration. Badly

@bold dude was taking on Jiraiya who was at 35% ... he also showed perfect ability to jump and move at good speed. << Prove these wrong and you'll have a reasonable counter.

Now the funny part about your counter to that situation is the fact you ignore Tsunade's health.. she was deeply cut in the back and the chest area. But i guess thats "normal" right? .

considering you think Gai has "god level" speed in base form.. Especially after the fact he needs the gates for physical fighting where Tsunade would dominate just in base form.. is already sad enough.

Try being a smart ass and insulting to someone who will actually give a **** about your shitty excuse because you have no reasonable argument besides insulting others.

I have to say PawsX and KingHashirama have won this debate. FT and Proof have brought zero legit facts to the table while PawsX went savage mode and got a Databook, brought a C-rank; whoa I know guys. C. Rank. Jutsu from Tsunade. That is, like above Kage level.

This is what you , FT , proof and lil boy Kratos brought:

"Gai is too fast"


Manga :

"Gai can't even take on Kage tiers in physicality without going into gates."

"Gai needs gates to even take on situations that Tsunade would dominate in base mode"

 

[RedRobin]

I have to say PawsX and KingHashirama have won this debate. FT and Proof have brought zero legit facts to table while PawsX went savage mode and got a Databook, brought a C-rank; whoa I know guys. C. Rank. Jutsu from Tsunade. That is, like above Kage level.

Thanks River coming from you that means absolute shit to me.

Peanut gallery stay where you are and watch.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I have to say PawsX and KingHashirama have won this debate. FT and Proof have brought zero legit facts to the table while PawsX went savage mode and got a Databook, brought a C-rank; whoa I know guys. C. Rank. Jutsu from Tsunade. That is, like above Kage level.

i mean since their common sense is >us, so I have to agree with this guy.

 

[Apêx1]

Part 1 Tsunade was super rusty. Her muscles and body were far from fighting condition. But thats where her DB stats were taken from. Past performance, by the time DB3 came out Tsunade hadnt fought or gained any feats within that time.

Doesn't matter. I addressed this, either you can't read or you're beating around the bush. Her stamina would never be comparable to Gai's, ever. Her speed is not comparable to Gai's base speed without shunshin, ever. Her Taijutsu skills are massively inferior, and even Madara states Gai's taijutsu is at the absolute limit of what is possible. Kisame praises his Taijutsu as well. Tsunade only has strength going for her, and that won't take her far in a fight with Gai who can completely outclass her Taijutsu wise.

 

[RedRobin]

Doesn't matter. I addressed this, either you can't read or you're beating around the bush. Her stamina would never be comparable to Gai's, ever. Her speed is not comparable to Gai's base speed without shunshin, ever. Her Taijutsu skills are massively inferior, and even Madara states Gai's taijutsu is at the absolute limit of what is possible. Kisame praises his Taijutsu as well. Tsunade only has strength going for her, and that won't take her far in a fight with Gai who can completely outclass her Taijutsu wise.

Lol We are just going by what the DB states but if we take into a account manga feats, Tsunade destroys in stamina.

And again her speed, stamina, all based on a rusty Tsunade's body and ability. Something which drastically changed when she fought in the war arc meaning those stats hardly take into account Tsunade's actually ability.

Obviously gates techniques put him far above her when it comes to taijustu but I never stated she matches his gates techniques so I dont even know why you are bringing that up.

 

[Blackdeath667]

guy wins for reasons already stated in scenario 1

 

[Lord Tywin]

@bold dude was taking on Jiraiya who was at 35% ... he also showed perfect ability to jump and move at good speed. << Prove these wrong and you'll have a reasonable counter.

Now the funny part about your counter to that situation is the fact you ignore Tsunade's health.. she was deeply cut in the back and the chest area. But i guess thats "normal" right? .

considering you think Gai has "god level" speed in base form.. Especially after the fact he needs the gates for physical fighting where Tsunade would dominate just in base form.. is already sad enough.

Try being a smart ass and insulting to someone who will actually give a f*ck about your shitty excuse because you have no reasonable argument besides insulting others.

Both Oro and Jiraiya were in a worse shape than Tsunade. Jiraiya could barely stand, and had problem with molding chakra. Other guy had his soul sucked out of his hands. He was shaking during the whole fight. FACTS. All of these are in the manga.

She he was cut. Different than broken bones that she'll get from Gai. That would make her immobile.

lmao this guy says I have no argument, yet he brings nothing to the discussion. Prove that Tsunade "Dominates" Gai in base. Prove Tsunade can overcome Gai's far superior striking speed and far greater reaction time, and then I'm gonna take you seriously.

 

[KingHashirama]

With what speed? She's slow as shit.

Tier 3.5, Gai is roof tier at 5.0.

Foot speed.

Tsunade's strike speed i superior to Gai's in base. her reactions are also better. In close range legit close range only an idiot would assume shes not hitting Gai even once.

Now provide Gai's "god level" footspeed that Tsunade can't take on in CQC. If this was long range the speed wank would look credible. But wanking on a dude's base speed in CQC without any proof.. lol yea. not gonna help.

 

[RedRobin]

Paws since you trashed me you are hereby the best debater in the site.

I have trashed FemmeFatale a lot too, no difference here with you.