Tactics of Murder -- Is killing Samehada possible?

[NarutoX28]

The skree is how Samehada communicates in general. When eating Killer Bee's chakra, which makes it happy, it made the same "Skreee" sound. That shows that the "Skreee" isn't a whine of pain.

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The "burn" is just Killer Bee looking for a rhyme. It's not the first time he's done that. Samehada clearly shows zero signs of being burned.

There is nothing that indicates Samehada was in pain, since the skree has been shown to come from the sword when it's happy and enjoying the chakra it tastes as well.

Samehada hastily retreating to signal the displeasure it experienced absorbing its chakra suggests otherwise, not to mention that Bee dismissed the possibility of intercepting Itachi's Katon + Shuriken combo with Samehada even though it'd have been a more feasible defense.

 

[NarutoX28]

All Killing Ash Bone GG

Nope, it absorbs chakra upon contact. It simply absorbs the chakra within it, rendering it useless. :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Samehada hastily retreating to signal the displeasure it experienced absorbing its chakra suggests otherwise, not to mention that Bee dismissed the possibility of intercepting Itachi's Katon + Shuriken combo with Samehada even though it'd have been a more feasible defense.

What hasty retreating? It moved back to thunk Killer Bee in the head for making it eat chakra it doesn't like.

Bee dismissed the idea because he treats Samehada like a living creature/pet. The entire point was he was nicer to Samehada than Kisame was.

 

[KidGamer65]

-Iron Sand kills it.
-Whatever part of Jinton hits it is absorbed.
-Susanoo is absorbed outside of PS and it's abilities; the attacks would cleave through it and the user.
-Amaterasu is absorbed.
-Genjutsu does nothing.
-Physical penetration does nothing unless it's a very large wound.

 

[NarutoX28]

What hasty retreating? It moved back to thunk Killer Bee in the head for making it eat chakra it doesn't like.

Bee dismissed the idea because he treats Samehada like a living creature/pet. The entire point was he was nicer to Samehada than Kisame was.

Yes, it was a hasty maneuver because it experienced excruciating pain. Samehada didn't even react in such a manner in response to being slammed by V2 Bee's Lariat. On the contrary, it was composed and eagerly supplemented Kisame with the chakra it desired.

Consuming something it doesn't like in favor of defending yourself is hardly abuse. I still fail to see why B wouldn't have defended himself with Samehada.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nope, it absorbs chakra upon contact. It simply absorbs the chakra within it, rendering it useless. :bdpf:

I think Ash Bone overrule anything that beneath Kaguya. As that how hierarchy of power works in fiction unless some specific/exclusive property is embedded within Samehada where it can be a weaknesses to anything be it above or below, like a Kryptonite . We never know :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes, it was a hasty maneuver because it experienced excruciating pain.

Where's the proof of this? None of you have presented proof that Samehada was in pain as opposed to displeased with the flavor.

Samehada didn't even react in such a manner in response to being slammed by V2 Bee's Lariat. On the contrary, it was composed and eagerly supplemented Kisame with the chakra it desired.

That's because it likes the taste of Bee's chakra.

This even betrays your point. When clearly damaged with a hole blown through it, Samehada pays it no mind. Now the "skree" is supposed to be Samehada howling in pain when it didn't do so before to other things that caused it pain?

Consuming something it doesn't like in favor of defending yourself is hardly abuse. I still fail to see why B wouldn't have defended himself with Samehada.

It's "abuse" because he'd be forcing Samehada to do something it hates doing. Killer Bee didn't want to subject Samehada, so he didn't. It's not rocket science.

 

[NarutoX28]

Where's the proof of this? None of you have presented proof that Samehada was in pain as opposed to displeased with the flavor.


That's because it likes the taste of Bee's chakra.

This even betrays your point. When clearly damaged with a hole blown through it, Samehada pays it no mind. Now the "skree" is supposed to be Samehada howling in pain when it didn't do so before to other things that caused it pain?

Those go hand-in-hand. If Samehada's reacted with even greater urgency in response to Itachi's Katon than it did with V2 Bee's Lariat, then clearly Samehada experienced greater discomfort. It extends far beyond the pain that it experienced against Bee surprisingly.

It's "abuse" because he'd be forcing Samehada to do something it hates doing. Killer Bee didn't want to subject Samehada, so he didn't. It's not rocket science.

Eating something that it doesn't like is abuse? Well shit fam, looks like I've been abused many, many times.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Those go hand-in-hand. If Samehada's reacted with even greater urgency in response to Itachi's Katon than it did with V2 Bee's Lariat, then clearly Samehada experienced greater discomfort. It extends far beyond the pain that it experienced against Bee surprisingly.

There you go using those words again. "Hasty" and "urgency" when nothing about Samehada's behavior was hasty or urgent. It simply hates the flavor of fire.

Eating something that it doesn't like is abuse? Well shit fam, looks like I've been abused many, many times.

Uhhh yes? It's far easier to abuse animals than humans when it comes to how you feed them. Some animals can't tolerate certain foods. It's the same concept with Samehada.

 

[NarutoX28]

There you go using those words again. "Hasty" and "urgency" when nothing about Samehada's behavior was hasty or urgent. It simply hates the flavor of fire.

It immediately retreated upon experiencing such displeasure. How is that not hasty or urgent?

Nonetheless, this doesn't properly address what I had presented.

Uhhh yes? It's far easier to abuse animals than humans when it comes to how you feed them. Some animals can't tolerate certain foods. It's the same concept with Samehada.

If it's something that extends to disliking its taste, then I hardly see the reason why it would be considered abuse, especially when it's composed of chakra which it craves.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It immediately retreated upon experiencing such displeasure. How is that not hasty or urgent?

Nonetheless, this doesn't properly address what I had presented.[/



If it's something that extends to disliking its taste, then I hardly see the reason why it would be considered abuse, especially when it's composed of chakra which it craves.

Even the anime disagrees with you.

[video=youtube;h0v5-369ugQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0v5-369ugQ[/video]

 

[NarutoX28]

Even the anime disagrees with you.

[video=youtube;h0v5-369ugQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0v5-369ugQ[/video]

Good thing that I don't care about the anime's interpretation of it, especially if I see it conflict with the manga. Nonetheless, other than the dialogue, I fail to see how this contradicts my point.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Good thing that I don't care about the anime's interpretation of it, especially if I see it conflict with the manga. Nonetheless, other than the dialogue, I fail to see how this contradicts my point.

Even in the manga, the sword wasn't rushing to do anything. C'mon son, stop reaching.

 

[NarutoX28]

Even in the manga, the sword wasn't rushing to do anything. C'mon son, stop reaching.

I agree to disagree here.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

I gradually believe Samehada's "dislike for fire" is a blatant hint at a weakness to thermal energy (i.e. fire, and anything that generates energy to that standard) -- However, some believe that isn't the case, and it was merely just that, a distaste for "heated flavor." With that presumption in hand, Amaterasu is chakra, and Samehada devours chakra.

However, I believe Amaterasu from a "Samehada is weak to fire" perspective that Amaterasu would crisp the symbiotic weapon into ashes.

Nothing supports that Samehada is weak to fire.First Samehada didn´t have any problem to absorb all that fire that was in her path. Also she didn´t show any damage. Each type of chakra has different taste to Samehada. She extremely likes taste of Hachibi chakra and dislike taste of Katon chakra. So Amaterasu would be absorbed in same way as normal Katon.