Tactics of Murder -- Is killing Samehada possible?

[Pretentious]

This topic's resolution will bring fruition to a plethora of feasible tacticals in efforts to handicap/defeat Kisame regarding forthcoming skirmishes pertaining to "r > Kisame or pq > Kisame." The sixty four dollar question being;

Can Samehada, a symbiotic tool be killed? And if so, by what means? Below references a list of possible homicidal tools;

I; Sasori's poison/Poison in general
II; Jinton
III; Susano'o & Susano'o's abilities
IV; Amaterasu
V; Genjutsu (i.e. Ephemeral/Finger Genjutsu)
VI; Physical penetration via de weaponry

By all means voice your opinions, and encouragingly add on to the list of possible tactics pertaining to Samehada's death.

 

[Inmate]

This topic's resolution will bring fruition to a plethora of feasible tacticals in efforts to handicap/defeat Kisame regarding forthcoming skirmishes pertaining to "r > Kisame or pq > Kisame." The sixty four dollar question being;

Can Samehada, a symbiotic tool be killed? And if so, by what means? Below references a list of possible homicidal tools;

I; Sasori's poison/Poison in general
II; Jinton
III; Susano'o & Susano'o's abilities
IV; Amaterasu
V; Genjutsu (i.e. Ephemeral/Finger Genjutsu)
VI; Physical penetration via de weaponry

By all means voice your opinions, and encouragingly add on to the list of possible tactics pertaining to Samehada's death.

I don't see how it survives IV really

 

[Kakooli]

Inner Sakura can seal it.

 

[Pretentious]

I don't see how it survives IV really

I gradually believe Samehada's "dislike for fire" is a blatant hint at a weakness to thermal energy (i.e. fire, and anything that generates energy to that standard) -- However, some believe that isn't the case, and it was merely just that, a distaste for "heated flavor." With that presumption in hand, Amaterasu is chakra, and Samehada devours chakra.

However, I believe Amaterasu from a "Samehada is weak to fire" perspective that Amaterasu would crisp the symbiotic weapon into ashes.

 

[Angelic.]

How about natural energy might turn to stone idk

 

[NarutoX28]

I; Sasori's poison/Poison in general - Dies
II; Jinton - Dies
III; Susano'o & Susano'o's abilities - Dies (Totsuka GG)
IV; Amaterasu - Dies
V; Genjutsu (i.e. Ephemeral/Finger Genjutsu) - Won't be affected
VI; Physical penetration via de weaponry - Lives in most cases.

And of course, absorbing inordinate amounts of Sage Chakra would petrify him and ultimately kill him.

 

[Pretentious]

How about natural energy might turn to stone idk

I hadn't even thought of that premise. Ingenuity at its finest.

 

[Pretentious]

I; Sasori's poison/Poison in general - Dies
II; Jinton - Dies
III; Susano'o & Susano'o's abilities - Dies (Totsuka GG)
IV; Amaterasu - Dies
V; Genjutsu (i.e. Ephemeral/Finger Genjutsu) - Won't be affected
VI; Physical penetration via de weaponry - Lives in most cases.

And of course, absorbing inordinate amounts of Sage Chakra would petrify him and ultimately kill him.

Agreed. This is simply a redefining of tactics that could place Kisame at a disadvantage in combat, as I believe I've noted of others overestimating Samehada's durability/livability potential against certain techniques.

 

[Inmate]

I gradually believe Samehada's "dislike for fire" is a blatant hint at a weakness to thermal energy (i.e. fire, and anything that generates energy to that standard) -- However, some believe that isn't the case, and it was merely just that, a distaste for "heated flavor." With that presumption in hand, Amaterasu is chakra, and Samehada devours chakra.

However, I believe Amaterasu from a "Samehada is weak to fire" perspective that Amaterasu would crisp the symbiotic weapon into ashes.

I didn't even think of the weakness part quite frankly. I just assumed since Ametarasu burns through everything it would Samehada as well. I'm really taken aback by the extent to which you thought about it. But if Samehada can indeed absorb every jutsu thrown at it, then isn't Amaterasu nullified already. In retrospect, I'm guessing it could absorb it partially but the scorching fire would be too overwhelming in the process as its a higher level of fire release intensified indefinitely and if I recall it tried absorbing a fire technique once and was almost unsuccessful

 

[Pretentious]

I didn't even think of the weakness part quite frankly. I just assumed since Ametarasu burns through everything it would Samehada as well. I'm really taken aback by the extent to which you thought about it. But if Samehada can indeed absorb every jutsu thrown at it, then isn't Amaterasu nullified already. In retrospect, I'm guessing it could absorb it partially but the scorching fire would be too overwhelming in the process as its a higher level of fire release intensified indefinitely and if I recall it tried absorbing a fire technique once and was almost unsuccessful

My basis of presumption premising that Katon jutsu of significantly more potent levels (i.e. Madara's) could undeniably injure Samehada. Which further leads to doubt regarding Samehada's absorption rate/speed.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Mr. Thesaurus over here

Katon wouldn't kill Samehada. Fire, to Samehada, tastes too spicy for its taste. It absorbs it just as fine as anything else, it just doesn't like to.

 

[Pretentious]

Mr. Thesaurus over here

Katon wouldn't kill Samehada. Fire, to Samehada, tastes too spicy for its taste. It absorbs it just as fine as anything else, it just doesn't like to.

Oh? Please enlighten me why you find the contexts: fruition, plethora, feasible, or perhaps forthcoming thesaurus worthy? All high school level words.

Perhaps your schooling was just below average.

Yes, that's one presumption, but another is that Katon is actually the weapon's weakness i.e. too much of a bad thing, is actually bad.

 

[Inmate]

Mr. Thesaurus over here

Katon wouldn't kill Samehada. Fire, to Samehada, tastes too spicy for its taste. It absorbs it just as fine as anything else, it just doesn't like to.

Good point but Amaterasu is levels above Katon. Katon of Madara's caliber alone could potentially injure it. What of Amaterasu's potency that is said to set anything to incinerating fire?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oh? Please enlighten me why you find the contexts: fruition, plethora, feasible, or perhaps forthcoming thesaurus worthy? All high school level words.

The words are unnecessary 70% of the time you use them, which is just enunciated by how unnecessary their proximity to each other are.

Yes, that's one presumption, but another is that Katon is actually the weapon's weakness i.e. too much of a bad thing, is actually bad.

Considering that the Katon was absorbed just as well as any other chakra that Samehada absorbed, this is completely unfounded by the manga itself.

 

[Greedie]

I'd assume samehada can be killed.

1. Sasori's poison should kill it,, If sasori's weapons could pierce it's skin that is. Same goes for other posions.
2. Jinton would vaporize it
3. since it can eat massive amounts of bijuu chakra in one touch, it should be able to deal with susanoo and it's weaponry
4. It should be able to deal with Amaterasu like it did Itachi's katon, I don't see amaterasu killing it.
5. Normal weaponry shouldn't be able to do much to it, Maybe kusanagi but in most senario's it shouldn't be a problem for Samehada

 

[Pretentious]

The words are unnecessary 70% of the time you use them, which is just enunciated by how unnecessary their proximity to each other are.



Considering that the Katon was absorbed just as well as any other chakra that Samehada absorbed, this is completely unfounded by the manga itself.

Sentence fragmenting =/= Thesaurus usage. I'll respect your perspective though, not everyone has "strong" English bearings (note the quotation marks along the word strong; high school contexts kiddo).

Just as well? Feel free to research your lack of remembrance, Samehada had trouble absorbing the Katon -- The dislike for the element clearly empowers such inference. Attempting to absorb Madara level Katon jutsu, or Amaterasu would result in a severely injured/killed weapon.

 

[Genocide]

Oh? Please enlighten me why you find the contexts: fruition, plethora, feasible, or perhaps forthcoming thesaurus worthy? All high school level words.

Perhaps your schooling was just below average.

Yes, that's one presumption, but another is that Katon is actually the weapon's weakness i.e. too much of a bad thing, is actually bad.

Hes probably referring to you using higher level words instead of common tongue, Like homicidal or thermal, not your fault though he is just intimidated by an advanced vocabulary.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sentence fragmenting =/= Thesaurus usage. I'll respect your perspective though, not everyone has "strong" English bearings (note the quotation marks along the word strong; high school contexts kiddo).

Hes probably referring to you using higher level words instead of common tongue, Like homicidal or thermal, not your fault though he is just intimidated by an advanced vocabulary.

No, it's simply ostentatious. Usage of the words aren't at all "advanced," which adds to how try-hard it is. They're crammed together. When every other word is "advanced," you know the person just took an informal sentence then found every word that looked fancy to substitute in.

Just as well? Feel free to research your lack of remembrance, Samehada had trouble absorbing the Katon -- The dislike for the element clearly empowers such inference. Attempting to absorb Madara level Katon jutsu, or Amaterasu would result in a several injured/killed weapon.

What shows that Samehada had trouble absorbing the fire? When Samehada absorbed Itachi's fire, it displayed no signs of having trouble absorbing the flames, it simply showed that it disliked the flavor of the flames because it's hot. That's not a weakness. Unless you can actually post a scan that shows that Samehada's absorption process was less effective against flames, you're just speculating.

 

[Pretentious]

Hes probably referring to you using higher level words instead of common tongue, Like homicidal or thermal, not your fault though he is just intimidated by an advanced vocabulary.

That, or it was a pitiful attempt to be snarky -- Either way I don't mind much, childish ignorance is plentiful in this world.

 

[Inmate]

Hes probably referring to you using higher level words instead of common tongue, Like homicidal or thermal, not your fault though he is just intimidated by an advanced vocabulary.

Don't you agree that this world of ours would be unbearably boring if everyone wanted to be average, or as we are witnessing, weakly conformed to societal expectations to ingratiate a few individuals rather than act on their whim to willfully excersise their freedom of speech freely without unwarranted contemptuous comments that are aimed at debilitating their sense of pride and individualism, which are consequently depriving others their free will to express themselves in whichever way that suits their preference?