SY teaches me how to control wood o.O

[Scary Yamato]

Never look at their eyes,simply fight by watching the rest of the body U_U

Right, that will help prevent you from falling into thier genjutsu. however you still need to worry about thier movement reading ailities. Remeber with uchiha's if its one on one you better run (well thats from the manga anyway)

You have to assume they can read your every movement, and are able to match your movement (reference kakashi v zabuza)

MAkes clones and attack frpom where they arent looking. You have to be extrememely sneaky. They can see chakra types and even see you underground (reference chunnin exams: sasuke v underground fish projection)

safe practice states that you DO NOT use genjutsu on uchiha, because they can flip it back onto you. Always attack from blind spots, attack from multiple sources, and make sure to use elemental combinations/compounded jutsu.

They cannot copy KG however so wood release is good to use, and if oyu have gates and they dont, USE THEM!!! If a uchiha cannot keep up they cannot block you

 

[Jinbei]

O_O Good points

 

[Scary Yamato]

O_O Good points

umm I cant really think of anything at the moment... do you have any questions?

 

[Scary Yamato]

Post number 7,800 ^_^

anyway, lets get back into situational stuffs


Lets say I have 3 shadow clones surrounding you from mid range.
clone one shoots great dragon fire at you
clone two shoots water vortex typhoon at you
clone three shoots a giant slicing wind gust at you

how would you block and counter?

 

[Jinbei]

Post number 7,800 ^_^

anyway, lets get back into situational stuffs


Lets say I have 3 shadow clones surrounding you from mid range.
clone one shoots great dragon fire at you
clone two shoots water vortex typhoon at you
clone three shoots a giant slicing wind gust at you

how would you block and counter?

Nice just 200 to go


On topic,well i expect the three to be done at the same time and do they become a combo or just random attacks ?O_O

 

[Scary Yamato]

Nice just 200 to go


On topic,well i expect the three to be done at the same time and do they become a combo or just random attacks ?O_O

they are attacking as all separate attacks (remember, I said they were surrounding you, as in, evenly spaced around you). The fire and wind attacks will combine as they hit you (if they make it that far)

Now how do you block all 3?

Optimal solution would use one jutsu to block all 3

 

[Jinbei]

they are attacking as all separate attacks (remember, I said they were surrounding you, as in, evenly spaced around you). The fire and wind attacks will combine as they hit you (if they make it that far)

Now how do you block all 3?

Optimal solution would use one jutsu to block all 3

Does getting out of the way count as escaping? xd

 

[Scary Yamato]

Does getting out of the way count as escaping? xd

do whatever you want. Thats why we are training. I'm going to put you in bad circumstances and we'll work on how to escape/counter/defend/etc.

 

[Jinbei]

do whatever you want. Thats why we are training. I'm going to put you in bad circumstances and we'll work on how to escape/counter/defend/etc.

Well,you said you were surrounding me,so as you launch your three attacks,I jump and create pillars on my feet to get higher,the pillars get completly wiped out by your attacks,so now still in the air,i will form handseals and cause beams of wood to emerge from the ground. The beams will converge to form a full spherical barrier to trap the whole blast,preventing damage cause for the explosion of the water/wind combo with the fire/wind combo.

 

[Scary Yamato]

Well,you said you were surrounding me,so as you launch your three attacks,I jump and create pillars on my feet to get higher,the pillars get completly wiped out by your attacks,so now still in the air,i will form handseals and cause beams of wood to emerge from the ground. The beams will converge to form a full spherical barrier to trap the whole blast,preventing damage cause for the explosion of the water/wind combo with the fire/wind combo.

Pretty good. I like how you contained the blast, but you really didnt need to do that if you went high enough. That move would have been better spent attacking the clones with the wood will tree or some other multi target jutsu.

the best move at your disposal would have been...
Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Koutan/Bakuha) - Secrect Wood Style: Birth Of Dense Woodland/Explosion
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60(+20 if you capture opponent and make the tree explode)
Description: Creates a forest that can either Attack.defend,or imprison the enemy.


You create a dense forest around yourself in a donut pattern (with you in the middle ) to block the incomming jutsu and interweave the clones within the dense trees. you could also make the forest explode after trapping/defending, but then you are stuck in a ring of fire


now for a cool technique

(Mokuton: Jubaku Eisou) - Wood Style: Binding Nest
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: the user traps the opponents inside a tree the grows around the opponent and only leaves there head sticking out.The user can then crush there opponent inside of the tree.


This jutsu works by creating vines which grow from the ground and ntangles the target. These vines will continue to grow into a large tree, further restricting the enemy's movements and preventing their escape. Finally the growth of the gigantic tree will be enough to permanently crush and entomb their body.

start by wrapping thier body, which keeps them from making seals. then continue to grow the tree

try and use this as the enemy is being attacked so that thier mind is elsewhere. shoot a strong projectile (maybe a bazooka) so occupy them. You idealy want to make the tree/vines appear at the same time as the projectile reaches them


try to use it on me in a combo. (doesnt have to be a wood combo)

 

[Jinbei]

Pretty good. I like how you contained the blast, but you really didnt need to do that if you went high enough. That move would have been better spent attacking the clones with the wood will tree or some other multi target jutsu.

the best move at your disposal would have been...
Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Koutan/Bakuha) - Secrect Wood Style: Birth Of Dense Woodland/Explosion
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60(+20 if you capture opponent and make the tree explode)
Description: Creates a forest that can either Attack.defend,or imprison the enemy.


You create a dense forest around yourself in a donut pattern (with you in the middle ) to block the incomming jutsu and interweave the clones within the dense trees. you could also make the forest explode after trapping/defending, but then you are stuck in a ring of fire


now for a cool technique

(Mokuton: Jubaku Eisou) - Wood Style: Binding Nest
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: the user traps the opponents inside a tree the grows around the opponent and only leaves there head sticking out.The user can then crush there opponent inside of the tree.


This jutsu works by creating vines which grow from the ground and ntangles the target. These vines will continue to grow into a large tree, further restricting the enemy's movements and preventing their escape. Finally the growth of the gigantic tree will be enough to permanently crush and entomb their body.

start by wrapping thier body, which keeps them from making seals. then continue to grow the tree

try and use this as the enemy is being attacked so that thier mind is elsewhere. shoot a strong projectile (maybe a bazooka) so occupy them. You idealy want to make the tree/vines appear at the same time as the projectile reaches them


try to use it on me in a combo. (doesnt have to be a wood combo)

Well,i will begin by making a wood clone,then i will throw a total of 1000 shurikens by using kage shuriken,and now to finish it while my wood clone performs binding nest.

 

[Scary Yamato]

Well,i will begin by making a wood clone,then i will throw a total of 1000 shurikens by using kage shuriken,and now to finish it while my wood clone performs binding nest.

As you begin to throw kunai I use
Fuuton: Sensougouheki (Wind Style: Rumbleing wind wall)
Type:Attack/Defence
Rank: D
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10
Damage Points:20
Description: User creates a wall of spinning wind in front of him that is used to push back weapons thrown towards him. It can also be used against taijutsu close range attacks, but the wall can be pushed back with a stronger wind jutsu or if a smoke bomb or explosive tag touches the
spinning wind they will automatically get activated because of the sharpness of the wind element, damaging the user also.


as the shuriken get blown back at you I use

(Mokuton: Jubaku Eisou) - Wood Style: Binding Nest
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: the user traps the opponents inside a tree the grows around the opponent and only leaves there head sticking out.The user can then crush there opponent inside of the tree.


the vines wrap around you and your clone making you unable to move as the wall of wind and projectiles smashes into you and your clone.

.... EDIT

so now that you know, how it should be used, we can move on, or you can try it on me again.

I would post how to escape but we wouldnt want to share that with everybody.

I'll pm you the best escape for that

 

[Scary Yamato]

ok, if you know an opponent has some razy taijutsu or sealing techniques you want to mix in some of your mokuton with taijutsu to give you increased distance.

So lets say I channel chakr ainto my hand to do a power punch. The chakra provides increased speed and strenth, now we channel mokuton chakra into that munch so when you do punch, you can use mokuton no jutsu to grow a pillar from your first which smashes into the opponent from a distance.

Try to use your mokuton technique and mix it with some taijutsu moves to attack me.

afterward I'll do some moves on you and you can try to block

 

[Jinbei]

ok, if you know an opponent has some razy taijutsu or sealing techniques you want to mix in some of your mokuton with taijutsu to give you increased distance.

So lets say I channel chakr ainto my hand to do a power punch. The chakra provides increased speed and strenth, now we channel mokuton chakra into that munch so when you do punch, you can use mokuton no jutsu to grow a pillar from your first which smashes into the opponent from a distance.

Try to use your mokuton technique and mix it with some taijutsu moves to attack me.

afterward I'll do some moves on you and you can try to block

O.O I just got an awesome idea O_O


I lean foward a bit before i begin running at you,then while running(we start on long range) i focus mokuton chakra through all my body,once i am done with that(we would be in mid range by that time),I thrust one of my arms foward while using mokuton no jutsu to make a pillar grow out of my hand and shoot at you and great speed as i shout "Moku moku no pistol!"|),the pillars hits right in the stomach,causing great pain and pushing you back a little.I then i create a pillar out of my shoot as i kick in a wide circle,the kick comes from my right,making the pillar hit your left leg above your ankle but below your knee),making you loose balance and hit the floor while shouting "moku moku no Muchi".Then with the same leg that i did my previous move,i rise my leg,making the pillar go into the air,then i send it crashing down,the power of this impact finishes you off instantly while shouting "moku moku no Ono"

This all happens in quick succesion so you don't have time to react once the first attack hits U_U

 

[Scary Yamato]

O.O I just got an awesome idea O_O


I lean foward a bit before i begin running at you,then while running(we start on long range) i focus mokuton chakra through all my body,once i am done with that(we would be in mid range by that time),I thrust one of my arms foward while using mokuton no jutsu to make a pillar grow out of my hand and shoot at you and great speed as i shout "Moku moku no pistol!"|),the pillars hits right in the stomach,causing great pain and pushing you back a little.I then i create a pillar out of my shoot as i kick in a wide circle,the kick comes from my right,making the pillar hit your left leg above your ankle but below your knee),making you loose balance and hit the floor while shouting "moku moku no Muchi".Then with the same leg that i did my previous move,i rise my leg,making the pillar go into the air,then i send it crashing down,the power of this impact finishes you off instantly while shouting "moku moku no Ono"

This all happens in quick succesion so you don't have time to react once the first attack hits U_U

O_O

that is exactly what I wanted you to do. It was perfect. ^_^


now block this >=}

we are rushing at each other from mid range. I clasp my hands together quickly and perform a forward somersault launghing my high into the air. I turn on my side and spin while growing a long pillar from my feet which comes crashing down on you. the pillar breaks and I continue my spin (back on my normal axis now) and I place my hands together above my ehad and a Gian Mallet grows from my outstretched arms. I swing the rediculously large mallet down onto you grushing you and everything around you. Due to rotational speed, this happens very fast

 

[Jinbei]

O_O

that is exactly what I wanted you to do. It was perfect. ^_^


now block this >=}

we are rushing at each other from mid range. I clasp my hands together quickly and perform a forward somersault launghing my high into the air. I turn on my side and spin while growing a long pillar from my feet which comes crashing down on you. the pillar breaks and I continue my spin (back on my normal axis now) and I place my hands together above my ehad and a Gian Mallet grows from my outstretched arms. I swing the rediculously large mallet down onto you grushing you and everything around you. Due to rotational speed, this happens very fast

When you do your somersault,its obvious to me that your next move will come from above,so instead of clashing with you(you would win due to the gravitatory force),i simply run and keep running while using mokuton no jutsu to make pillars come out of my legs,making me "taller" so i walk alot with just one step.I walk all the way were you where before the somersault,by the time i reach there,you attack would be hitting the ground.Now i infuse my chakra into the pillars on my feet to make them grow more and take me to where you are,while travelling i infuse alot of chakra in my arms,creating many many many pillars that grow out of my right arm,making my arm gigantic(just like luffy's gear third if you watch one piece),as i shout "moku moku no giant pistol!!",you get hit by that giant punch,hit the floor and die instantly.

 

[Scary Yamato]

When you do your somersault,its obvious to me that your next move will come from above,so instead of clashing with you(you would win due to the gravitatory force),i simply run and keep running while using mokuton no jutsu to make pillars come out of my legs,making me "taller" so i walk alot with just one step.I walk all the way were you where before the somersault, by the time i reach there,you attack would be hitting the ground.Now i infuse my chakra into the pillars on my feet to make them grow more and take me to where you are,while travelling i infuse alot of chakra in my arms,creating many many many pillars that grow out of my right arm,making my arm gigantic(just like luffy's gear third if you watch one piece),as i shout "moku moku no giant pistol!!",you get hit by that giant punch,hit the floor and die instantly.

I dont know If I'm reading this right. But basically you are saying that you grew stils to make yurself run faster to my location, is that correct? I grew a pillar from my leg which is a stright line, not just a singluar point so as long as you are still in the same path, as long as you are still in front of me you still get hit (expecially if you are taller).

also mind your timeframe, If you grow wood and go way in the air before I perform my somerault, I would most definitly change my move. Also, you are saying that you are performing your move before I did mine. How would you know what I was doing? you have to explain what you saw to make you do your action.

I may give a lecture series in the training thread about timeframes because this seems to happen a lot here. (not with you specificlly, just in general, )

please do your move again or correct me in the places where I might have misinterperated.

 

[Jinbei]

I dont know If I'm reading this right. But basically you are saying that you grew stils to make yurself run faster to my location, is that correct? I grew a pillar from my leg which is a stright line, not just a singluar point so as long as you are still in the same path, as long as you are still in front of me you still get hit (expecially if you are taller).

also mind your timeframe, If you grow wood and go way in the air before I perform my somerault, I would most definitly change my move. Also, you are saying that you are performing your move before I did mine. How would you know what I was doing? you have to explain what you saw to make you do your action.

I may give a lecture series in the training thread about timeframes because this seems to happen a lot here. (not with you specificlly, just in general, )

please do your move again or correct me in the places where I might have misinterperated.

Well, my idea was to use the pillars so that i travel more with each step.My point wasn't getting higher.Thats why i didn't said that they came out of my feet but from my legs,think of it like having more than two legs.That would definitly make me go faster.Now that i look back i forgot to mention that i was running at you from your right and then begun to make zig-zag but meh.This all happened when i notice you doing your somersault,thats why i said at the beggining of my move that when i noticed you doing the somersault,i realized that the attack would come crashing down on me.So yeah,you moved first and i didn't broke the time frame So when i saw that the attack was going to come from above my only choice was to outrun it =/

Thats pretty much my point of view but if you don't think its valid i will just edit and make a proper defense =/

 

[Scary Yamato]

Well, my idea was to use the pillars so that i travel more with each step.My point wasn't getting higher.Thats why i didn't said that they came out of my feet but from my legs,think of it like having more than two legs.That would definitly make me go faster.Now that i look back i forgot to mention that i was running at you from your right and then begun to make zig-zag but meh.This all happened when i notice you doing your somersault,thats why i said at the beggining of my move that when i noticed you doing the somersault,i realized that the attack would come crashing down on me.So yeah,you moved first and i didn't broke the time frame So when i saw that the attack was going to come from above my only choice was to outrun it =/

Thats pretty much my point of view but if you don't think its valid i will just edit and make a proper defense =/

I must have mis-read it thanks for clearifying. its all good, I ws just trying to figure out what was going on ^_^ I'm still having a hard time figuring out how you grow wood from your legs to increase your speed as you run without growing taller, unless the wood is pushing you (which is what I would have done if someone was up in th air).

As your giant punch Comes at me Me I make a dense wooden spear extend from my fist and intercept your giant punch. The small surface area of the spear cracks the fist and the force behind it splits it down the middle. (compare this to Yamato's hinoki move in the list)

you have done very well. We can continue to spar and go through battle training if you would like. You seem to have a great battle sense.

 

[Jinbei]

I must have mis-read it thanks for clearifying. its all good, I ws just trying to figure out what was going on ^_^ I'm still having a hard time figuring out how you grow wood from your legs to increase your speed as you run without growing taller, unless the wood is pushing you (which is what I would have done if someone was up in th air).

As your giant punch Comes at me Me I make a dense wooden spear extend from my fist and intercept your giant punch. The small surface area of the spear cracks the fist and the force behind it splits it down the middle. (compare this to Yamato's hinoki move in the list)

you have done very well. We can continue to spar and go through battle training if you would like. You seem to have a great battle sense.

O_O Wow thanks a lot.I really apreciate that ^_^

I would like to go through battle training