Susanoo strength discussion

[Optimistic]

Each one of their susano's are unique. Sasukes can manipulate amateratsu. Madara can become ****ing huge and itachis has the yata mirror and sealing sword.

The only one out of the trio that enhances the durability is Itachi's thanks to his Yata mirror.Madara's change size not the overall durability.

 

[Draphsin]

All susanoos are the same durability except for Itachi's with yata & madara's because of PS. Exclude those things & they have the same defensive capabilities.

Since they are all made up of the same substance (chakra), then that means they all have the same level of durability, depending on the stages.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Sinister chakra does not mean powerful chakra. If sasuke would have been born with powerful chakra it would have been stated like the case with madara.

"Not at all unlike what I once saw in a certain Uchiha Madara." Their chakra was compared, Sasuke had to have been born with powerful chakra, he is of the Uchiha clan with the most powerful chakra.

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It's fair to say that the Uchiha brothers EMS may surpass Madara's.

 

[Microsword57]

I Understand what You are saying and I agree now that I looked it over. You just need to make it more presentable.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

The strength/defense of their first 4 stages should be comparable since it is the same jutsu.

There is...

Stage 1 Susanoo, which is the skeletal form.

Stage 2 Susanoo, which has muscle.

Stage 3 Susanoo, which has skin.

Stage 4 Susanoo, which has a Tengu Pelt.

Itachi, Sasuke, and Madara each have those stages in common, even though Sasuke's and Madara's have higher stages.

 

[Optimistic]

All susanoos are the same durability except for Itachi's with yata & madara's because of PS. Exclude those things & they have the same defensive capabilities.

Since they are all made up of the same substance (chakra), then that means they all have the same level of durability, depending on the stages.

The strength/defense of their first 4 stages should be comparable since it is the same jutsu.

There is...

Stage 1 Susanoo, which is the skeletal form.

Stage 2 Susanoo, which has muscle.

Stage 3 Susanoo, which has skin.

Stage 4 Susanoo, which has a Tengu Pelt.

Itachi, Sasuke, and Madara each have those stages in common, even though Sasuke's and Madara's have higher stages.

Can it be? Are people actually agreeing with this despite being related to Sasuke?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

When talking about Feats of Susanoo most people use Madara's susanoo as an example considering it has the most feats.

when people use Madara's susanoo as an example for all susanoo feats people say you can't because Madara's is stronger, because it's bigger.

Now I understand a stabilized perfect susanoo is stronger because its a different version of susanoo completely

But susanoo that are the same level with the same dojutsu should be the same strength between users right?

When arguing that Madara's final susanoo ems version is stronger than Sasuke's the bring up the topic of size.
but they never take into consideration that susanoo's size can be manipulated whenever the user wants

from narutopedia:The user can also change the size of it, depending on their skill, to fit the current situation.[19]


The link that says 19 is also a link to sasuke's feats, not madara's so we know sasuke has the skill

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Considering that size can be manipulated, where is the evidence that Madara's final susanoo is stronger than sasuke's?

I agree that for each level, the susanoo's standard power is equal among users. The key words from your link is "depending on their skill." Sasuke has the same potential for the size of susanoo as Madara, but he isn't experienced enough with it to make it as large as his. As the manga goes on, we'll see his skill with susanoo increase up to the point where he can match the size of Madara's.

 

[slimreaper]

Can it be? Are people actually agreeing with this despite being related to Sasuke?

:yayy::hooray: hopefully people using the size=strength argument on me is over.

 

[slimreaper]

I agree that for each level, the susanoo's standard power is equal among users. The key words from your link is "depending on their skill." Sasuke has the same potential for the size of susanoo as Madara, but he isn't experienced enough with it to make it as large as his. As the manga goes on, we'll see his skill with susanoo increase up to the point where he can match the size of Madara's.

but the link right after depending on their skill is a link to feats of sasuke so he has the skill

 

[Optimistic]

:yayy::hooray: hopefully people using the size=strength argument on me is over.

I might post my version and see what reaction i can get from people.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

"Not at all unlike what I once saw in a certain Uchiha Madara." Their chakra was compared, Sasuke had to have been born with powerful chakra, he is of the Uchiha clan with the most powerful chakra.

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It's fair to say that the Uchiha brothers EMS may surpass Madara's.

You do realize that this example was worthless because he had no genuine feelings to go along with this statement? I do think the Uchiha brothers could surpass Madara, but this is a bad example.

 

[slimreaper]

I might post my version and see what reaction i can get from people.

go ahead homie

 

[Sennin of Logic]

but the link right after depending on their skill is a link to feats of sasuke so he has the skill

He has the skill, but not on Madara's level. We've that Sasuke, Itachi, and Madara all have this skill. What I'm saying is that the reason Madara's are larger is because his skills in manipulating susanoo are greater than Sasukes at the moment. I can't wait to see what Sasuke's PS will look like though.

 

[slimreaper]

He has the skill, but not on Madara's level. We've that Sasuke, Itachi, and Madara all have this skill. What I'm saying is that the reason Madara's are larger is because his skills in manipulating susanoo are greater than Sasukes at the moment. I can't wait to see what Sasuke's PS will look like though.

Maybe sasuke just hasn't needed the size yet so he hasn't used it. I mean when he was sitting on aoda's head why would he need a susanoo that is about his size? Size can be manipulated freely, that means without restriction, and sasuke has shown the ability to manipulate it so he can do it freely

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

You do realize that this example was worthless because he had no genuine feelings to go along with this statement? I do think the Uchiha brothers could surpass Madara, but this is a bad example.

Itachi was trying to push Sasuke to achieve what he could not. Sasuke was planning on fighting Madara, if you don't recall. Itachi stated that Madara isn't worthy of being the greatest Uchiha. Do you have any proof that Itachi was lying with this statement?

Sasuke is still nowhere near prime Madara, he is overwhelming but Sasuke is years away from his prime. It is a possibility that should be taken into account.