susano; ultimate defence???

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I never said a regular Rasengan would do the job.



But if Naruto did Rasengan in BM mode (which he has not, he/Kurama did TBB. Not the same thing), then I'm pretty damn sure that would break through Sasuke's Susanoo.
He didn't say regular Rasengan would do the job. He's saying that maybe a BM Rasengan from the current Mr.T & Chuck Norris of Narutoworld,Naruto, would probably manage it. He managed to repel 5 TBB's with his hands,how can you say that his BM strength is even in the same universe as A or The sand Ninja's Jutsu?

MasterofSenjutsu is putting forth some very good points,instead of shutting your ears and claiming no. Maybe actually think about it people. +rep
 

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He didn't say regular Rasengan would do the job. He's saying that maybe a BM Rasengan from the current Mr.T & Chuck Norris of Narutoworld,Naruto, would probably manage it. He managed to repel 5 TBB's with his hands,how can you say that his BM strength is even in the same universe as A or The sand Ninja's Jutsu?

MasterofSenjutsu is putting forth some very good points,instead of shutting your ears and claiming no. Maybe actually think about it people. +rep
Thank you! :D
 

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Bm mode or not I dnt c a rasengan gettin thru, a tbb is different but thats not what the topic said
Either way,we are at a stalemate here. Let's wait ne see fella's.

I don't think Susanoo is the Ultimate defence though. It has too many flaws but one hell of a Defensive & Offensive capability while it lasts.
 

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Either way,we are at a stalemate here. Let's wait ne see fella's.

I don't think Susanoo is the Ultimate defence though. It has too many flaws but one hell of a Defensive & Offensive capability while it lasts.
Nothin in naruto is a ultimate defense, with enough power anything can be broken thru
 

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See, Danzo managed to crack an opening in a somewhat more complete susanoo (not just bones and ribcage) with just his wind jutsu...
We have yet to see Naruto make a rasengan in his new mode (when he tried it bee said it looks like a TBB) but it has to be quite powerful... i doubt it would be enough just one to destroy Susanoo, complete form but this is just an assumption.
 

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Do you just Want to get to the point that TBB can beat Susanoo thus Naruto is stronger than Sasuke !!
sry to disappoint you but no evidence that Tbb > Susanoo's Ultimate Armored version !!
if you're not trying to prove what i mentioned above ! then Still all susanoo's that were beaten weren't the Ultimate Armored version ! EMS Sasuke's version hasn't shown any weak points !
but if we are going to make Conclusions, then i shall make my own !
-The weak point in susanoo's back : is COVERED by heavy chakra !!!!
-it remains the atmosphere inside susanoo : If EMS sasuke Vs Garaa in Desert ! then garaa wins cuz he controls the environment INSIDE susanoo!!
but if they fight elsewhere ! then susanoo has no defense !!
 

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See, Danzo managed to crack an opening in a somewhat more complete susanoo (not just bones and ribcage) with just his wind jutsu...
We have yet to see Naruto make a rasengan in his new mode (when he tried it bee said it looks like a TBB) but it has to be quite powerful... i doubt it would be enough just one to destroy Susanoo, complete form but this is just an assumption.
He didn't make a crack in it. He just pushed it off of Sasuke the same as when Gaara pulled Madara out of his. They are removing Susanoo...which I guess is the biggest downside to it. It can be removed/torn off. haha :D

It can't block taijutsu, can it? If so, Naruto, A, and/or Minato would have something to go off of with that. Their speed and their taijutsu (especially Naruto's and A's) could counter it. See, always a loophole! :)
No,it reflects Taijutsu too...sorry
 

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Do you just Want to get to the point that TBB can beat Susanoo thus Naruto is stronger than Sasuke !!
sry to disappoint you but no evidence that Tbb > Susanoo's Ultimate Armored version !!
if you're not trying to prove what i mentioned above ! then Still all susanoo's that were beaten weren't the Ultimate Armored version ! EMS Sasuke's version hasn't shown any weak points !
but if we are going to make Conclusions, then i shall make my own !
-The weak point in susanoo's back : is COVERED by heavy chakra !!!!
-it remains the atmosphere inside susanoo : If EMS sasuke Vs Garaa in Desert ! then garaa wins cuz he controls the environment INSIDE susanoo!!
but if they fight elsewhere ! then susanoo has no defense !!
Whoa, lot of exclamation marks here. Anyways, Sasuke's EMS hasn't been shown any weak points because all he's fought are Zetsus. Otherwise, fodder. That's not any show of how powerful his EMS is.
 

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He didn't make a crack in it. He just pushed it off of Sasuke the same as when Gaara pulled Madara out of his. They are removing Susanoo...which I guess is the biggest downside to it. It can be removed/torn off. haha :D



No,it reflects Taijutsu too...sorry
Well, I would say fatigue no jutsu, but Itachi is in Edo. Wow, I can't see anything that can stop Itachi's Susanoo. Good thing he's on the good side or I think we would be very screwed!
 

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Well, I would say fatigue no jutsu, but Itachi is in Edo. Wow, I can't see anything that can stop Itachi's Susanoo. Good thing he's on the good side or I think we would be very screwed!
Yeah we would be Le Screwed Good n proper...haha :D

I think Itachi's is still the best Susanoo at present,it might all change soon though. To date though,his is the most impressive.
 

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This thread is ridiculous nd im just joining any idiot will realize a rasengan will neverrrrrr surpass ems sasukes susano even thinking that is a naruto fanboys dream why wuld gara pull madara out of susano 4 naruto to use futton rasen shuriken if a regular rasengan culd break through it?? it makes no sense maybee a TBB wuld break through it nd we still hav no proof of that sasukes susano has the power of his and itachis put together we still cnt confirm weather or not he has the yata mirror nd touska blade but even without them a rasengan no matter how fast will not break ems susano :D
 

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Whoa, lot of exclamation marks here. Anyways, Sasuke's EMS hasn't been shown any weak points because all he's fought are Zetsus. Otherwise, fodder. That's not any show of how powerful his EMS is.
Agree : then : :cool:
since we haven't seen yet all the EMS Susanoo abilities ; then we can't come to a conclusion That susanoo Isn't the Ultimate defence (since we don't know about all of the defensive abilities), and don't say : we didn't say witch susanoo when we say susanoo then we mean in its Ultimate version !!
2- the madara susanoo now has legs ! i guess it would be even a Greater pain to break through this : Sand is covered by the forest madara created ; and Simply No one can reach madara since he is in a high spot, even if onoki got A to fly, susanoo has very remarkable speed ; then i think Complete susanoo body + the Armor (wich we didn't see yet) intense isn't it ??U_U
 

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Do you just Want to get to the point that TBB can beat Susanoo thus Naruto is stronger than Sasuke !!
sry to disappoint you but no evidence that Tbb > Susanoo's Ultimate Armored version !!
if you're not trying to prove what i mentioned above ! then Still all susanoo's that were beaten weren't the Ultimate Armored version ! EMS Sasuke's version hasn't shown any weak points !
but if we are going to make Conclusions, then i shall make my own !
-The weak point in susanoo's back : is COVERED by heavy chakra !!!!
-it remains the atmosphere inside susanoo : If EMS sasuke Vs Garaa in Desert ! then garaa wins cuz he controls the environment INSIDE susanoo!!
but if they fight elsewhere ! then susanoo has no defense !!
Just let me add something here....
Gaara can combine his sand into the ground below him and use it to crush the minerals and such, using that to his advantage as well. Like the time he fought Kimimaro ;) (he doesn't have to be in the desert :p)
 

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Just let me add something here....
Gaara can combine his sand into the ground below him and use it to crush the minerals and such, using that to his advantage as well. Like the time he fought Kimimaro ;) (he doesn't have to be in the desert :p)
it shall be sorta weird if he concentrates on planting sand in the ground and forgetting that he's against smth like more than 5 meters tall , and dangerous black flames ; i think it's not as easy as i sounds ! :cool: (A)
 
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