Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

[Thundercles]

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are you slow?

madara and obito are partners, why wouldnt madara leave his clone with obito, especially since madara was about to die anyway

explain to me how zetsu knows about amaterasu but white zetsu doesnt



im not about to keep repeating myself

where is you're manga proof??? back yourself up now

give me a link of sasuke using tsukuyomi while your at it

Here you go, Sasuke using Tsukuyomi:

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[Thundercles]

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are you slow?

madara and obito are partners, why wouldnt madara leave his clone with obito, especially since madara was about to die anyway

explain to me how zetsu knows about amaterasu but white zetsu doesnt



im not about to keep repeating myself

where is you're manga proof??? back yourself up now

give me a link of sasuke using tsukuyomi while your at it

Here you go, Sasuke using Tsukuyomi:

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[Thundercles]

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are you slow?

madara and obito are partners, why wouldnt madara leave his clone with obito, especially since madara was about to die anyway

explain to me how zetsu knows about amaterasu but white zetsu doesnt



im not about to keep repeating myself

where is you're manga proof??? back yourself up now

give me a link of sasuke using tsukuyomi while your at it

Here you go, Sasuke using Tsukuyomi:

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[~Sovereign~]

Here you go, Sasuke using Tsukuyomi:

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that a sharingan genjutsu NOt tsukuyomi

madara did it too

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[Thundercles]

that a sharingan genjutsu NOt tsukuyomi

madara did it too

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Then why did he activate his MS to do it?

 

[~Sovereign~]

Then why did he activate his MS to do it?

because Ms has a stronger affect

sasuke hasnt shown the ability to use tsukuyomi, yet they can use susano

sasukes abilities are amaterasu and kagutsuchi

 

[Thundercles]

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I'm done.

 

[~Sovereign~]

:sy:

I'm done.

ok well deny facts

 

[thegame]

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are you slow?

madara and obito are partners, why wouldnt madara leave his clone with obito, especially since madara was about to die anyway

explain to me how zetsu knows about amaterasu but white zetsu doesnt

Well it's obvious that he had heard of it, itachi was in the organization, and amaterasu was pretty rumored.. So that simple.

Besides let me get this straight, evidence here is that he knew about amaterasu, so that means Madara didn't have it? Or what are you trying to say? xd

Black zetsu didn't know susanoo, so that kinda bash whatever you have tried to say with your "fool proof" zetsu-knowledge evidence

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[KidGamer65]

The whole page talks about Susano'o as a whole. ''Its hands wield magical, matchless weapons'' ''The Susano'o boasts an absolutely perfect attack and defense because of the spirit weapon it wields in both hands''.

That last part shows that it is obviously referencing Itachi's Susanoo only.

you're saying kishi doesnt write/draw the manga?

the databook is about itachi until i get manga proof that it needs amaterasu and tsukuyomi specifically

according to databook, naruto speed is 3.5 which is WRONG, this is proof that the databook can be useless at times and susano is one of the useless part of it

dont give me that BS about upgraded, because i can same the same about susano requirements....kishi made the databook when amaterasu and tsukuyomi were the only managykou at the time (just like naruto's speed) AND itachi was the only one with susano and since itachi had amaterasu and tsukuyomi, kishi used itachi for the databook

the databook can be out of date and kishi has a right to upgrade susano requirements which he did in the manga (sasuke said it)

matter of fact, sasuke NEVER used tsukuyomi

the only thing sasuke has shown is Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi

Ok then, keep on denying Databook facts.

Comparing this to Naruto's speed is retarded as speed can increase over time, requirements for Susanoo don't.

And saying the requirements changed just shows you have more logical words to add to the topic so now you're just spouting random BS to help you're argument.

Databook was talking about ALL Susanoo (FACT)

Lol, Kishi writes the manga, but as its a story, characters words are not always fact.

Since talking to you is like talking to a brick wall who denies the authors words i'm done..

 

[Thundercles]

That last part shows that it is obviously referencing Itachi's Susanoo only.



Ok then, keep on denying Databook facts.

Comparing this to Naruto's speed is retarded as speed can increase over time, requirements for Susanoo don't.

And saying the requirements changed just shows you have more logical words to add to the topic so now you're just spouting random BS to help you're argument.

Databook was talking about ALL Susanoo (FACT)

Lol, Kishi writes the manga, but as its a story, characters words are not always fact.

Since talking to you is like talking to a brick wall who denies the authors words i'm done..

Dude, give up. He doesn't listen to reason. He said Sasuke doesn't know Tsukuyomi even though I showed him like 3 scans....

 

[KidGamer65]

Dude, give up. He doesn't listen to reason. He said Sasuke doesn't know Tsukuyomi even though I showed him like 3 scans....

Lol, he always denies facts...its actually kinda funny really....but yeah, I should give up, he'll just come back spouting the same stuff anyway.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Well it's obvious that he had heard of it, itachi was in the organization, and amaterasu was pretty rumored.. So that simple.

Besides let me get this straight, evidence here is that he knew about amaterasu, so that means Madara didn't have it? Or what are you trying to say? xd

Black zetsu didn't know susanoo, so that kinda bash whatever you have tried to say with your "fool proof" zetsu-knowledge evidence

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its obvious that anyone who has double mangekyou can use susano

zetsu was shocked because itachi's susano looks different as you can see

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That last part shows that it is obviously referencing Itachi's Susanoo only.



Ok then, keep on denying Databook facts.

Comparing this to Naruto's speed is retarded as speed can increase over time, requirements for Susanoo don't.

And saying the requirements changed just shows you have more logical words to add to the topic so now you're just spouting random BS to help you're argument.

Databook was talking about ALL Susanoo (FACT)

Lol, Kishi writes the manga, but as its a story, characters words are not always fact.

Since talking to you is like talking to a brick wall who denies the authors words i'm done..

sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi

his powers are kagutsuchi and amaterasu

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""While Amaterasu is cast from Sasuke's left eye, he uses his right eye to manipulate the flames""

i guess you're gonna say in the databook is still right even those sasuke has NEVER shown tsukuyomi, and i just proved that he uses kagutsuchi as his second mangekyou ability

Dude, give up. He doesn't listen to reason. He said Sasuke doesn't know Tsukuyomi even though I showed him like 3 scans....

i proved you wrong, that wasnt tsukuyomi idiot

Lol, he always denies facts...its actually kinda funny really....but yeah, I should give up, he'll just come back spouting the same stuff anyway.

answer my post ^^^

 

[KidGamer65]

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its obvious that anyone who has double mangekyou can use susano

zetsu was shocked because itachi's susano looks different as you can see

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sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi

his powers are kagutsuchi and amaterasu

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""While Amaterasu is cast from Sasuke's left eye, he uses his right eye to manipulate the flames""

i guess you're gonna say in the databook is still right even those sasuke has NEVER shown tsukuyomi, and i just proved that he uses kagutsuchi as his second mangekyou ability



i proved you wrong, that wasnt tsukuyomi idiot



answer my post ^^^

Nope, he used Tsukuyomi against Bee and you haven't proven that wrong, all you did was bring up Kagutsuchi to try and nullify the Databooks (Kishimoto's) words and you just claimed it had a greater effect.

Enton is simply an add on to his Amaterasu just like how time manipulation was an add on for Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

And I had to lol at the fact that you used the wiki, the same wiki that says he has Tsukuyomi.

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Danzo says that his illusion (Tsukuyomi) is nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi which could control the length of the illusion, he used Tsukuyomi to compare because Sasuke also used it but it is inferior to Itachi's.

He used it on Killer Bee, with his right eye (hence him holding his right eye afterwards.

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Besides, the Databook specifically states that you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to use Susanoo so this shouldn't even be a debate...Sasuke has Tsukuyomi until proven otherwise.

 

[natssuu]

That last part shows that it is obviously referencing Itachi's Susanoo only.

Exactly, only Itachi's Susano'o possessed the legendary weapons but databook talks about Susano'o as a whole, so Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were Itachi's requirements for the Third power Susano'o.

 

[KidGamer65]

Exactly, only Itachi's Susano'o possessed the legendary weapons but databook talks about Susano'o as a whole, so Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were Itachi's requirements for the Third power Susano'o.

No, Page on the left referenced Itachi's Susanoo.

Page on the right talked about Susanoo as a whole.

Everything wasnt about Itachi's Susanoo, otherwise they wouldn't have said "Those who get Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi can use Susanoo".

 

[natssuu]

No, Page on the left referenced Itachi's Susanoo.

Page on the right talked about Susanoo as a whole.

Everything wasnt about Itachi's Susanoo, otherwise they wouldn't have said "Those who get Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi can use Susanoo".

And the caster was only said to be Itachi Uchiha, but when Sasuke had the Susano'o awaken Kishi stated this:

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Also Sasuke's MS genjutsu isn't Tsukiyomi which is proven here:

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[KidGamer65]

And the caster was only said to be Itachi Uchiha, but when Sasuke had the Susano'o awaken Kishi stated this:

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Also Sasuke's MS genjutsu isn't Tsukiyomi which is proven here:

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They said "those who get those 2 techniques unlock Susanoo" that speaks about Susanoo as a whole, not just about Itachi. Keyword is those, those is plural, meaning anyone who gets MS has a chance to get these 3 jutsu.

I already explained the first scan, Sasuke was being vague, Databook elaborates.

As for the second scan, he simply didn't use it, you can clearly see he used it against Bee in my above post, as his eye had strain on it (Right Eye) and the colors were inverted.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Nope, he used Tsukuyomi against Bee and you haven't proven that wrong, all you did was bring up Kagutsuchi to try and nullify the Databooks (Kishimoto's) words and you just claimed it had a greater effect.

Enton is simply an add on to his Amaterasu just like how time manipulation was an add on for Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

And I had to lol at the fact that you used the wiki, the same wiki that says he has Tsukuyomi.

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Danzo says that his illusion (Tsukuyomi) is nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi which could control the length of the illusion, he used Tsukuyomi to compare because Sasuke also used it but it is inferior to Itachi's.

He used it on Killer Bee, with his right eye (hence him holding his right eye afterwards.

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Besides, the Databook specifically states that you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to use Susanoo so this shouldn't even be a debate...Sasuke has Tsukuyomi until proven otherwise.

sasuke NEVER used tsukuyomi, sasuke never said tsukuyomi, that was a sharingan genjutsu like how madara did to raikage...notice that raikage was knocked out after this, he was just in a genjutsu, it wasnt tsukuyomi, because raikage wouldnt have got out of the genjutsu

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NOTICE THIS

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BOTH itachi ANd sasuke use amaterasu TOGETHER

NOW LOOK AT THIS

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itachi uses tsukuyomi
sasuke uses SHARINGAN GENJUTSU, WHERE IS SASUKE'S TSUKUYOMI??????

he didnt use it because he simply doesnt have it

and dont try that BS about sasuke didnt have alot of chakra because right before that sasuke asked itachi did he have enough chakra to use susano with him, menaing sasuke's chakra is out of the question

everytime you have no answer, you bring up the databook but MANGA>DATABOOK

and this is the proof

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[~Sovereign~]

They said "those who get those 2 techniques unlock Susanoo" that speaks about Susanoo as a whole, not just about Itachi. Keyword is those, those is plural, meaning anyone who gets MS has a chance to get these 3 jutsu.

I already explained the first scan, Sasuke was being vague, Databook elaborates.

As for the second scan, he simply didn't use it, you can clearly see he used it against Bee in my above post, as his eye had strain on it (Right Eye) and the colors were inverted.

sasuke simply didnt use it, how stupid is that? he just didnt have it

you make up too many excuses man, you havent backed up anything with the manga