[Discussion] Supernovas VS Ace
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Not technically true since going by your logic it would mean anyone who's older than say Luffy is stronger than him due to them passing a certain stage.
While Ace was strong he wasn't that of an admiral or anything like that.
However with characters learning Haki it does put Ace at a disadvantage so saying Ace could defeat all post time skip supernova's individually is assumption nothing more same as my opinion.
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Baby Urouge solos. he then proceeds to take on every SN together and beats them no difficulty.
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None of them have any way to hit Ace because he is a logia DF user except Law. Law would be the only one with feats that could have a chance against him. It would be interesting to see law's DF used against Logias and how it would work.
None of them have any way to hit Ace because he is a logia DF user except Law. Law would be the only one with feats that could have a chance against him. It would be interesting to see law's DF used against Logias and how it would work.
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take on is to fight , and the action to fight can be done by all , i do not see any of them beating ace currently , but it won't be long before they are above him
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not a chance: pre timeskip.......they couldnt even beat pacifista while ace was standing toe to toe with an admiral......when they get to that level thats when this debate can be brought up!!!
Standing toe to toe against a admiral with Ice powers of course he was going to be able to hold his ground Fire>Ice.
He was easily defeated by Akainu, so in my opinion Ace was above Vice admiral but lower than Admiral.
Ace imo could put up a fight against Aokiji and Kizaru but in no way Akainu. Akainus power is the worst for Ace (besides water) because no matter what you do with fire to magma. nothing will change except it will cool slower which would be good for Akainu) it would be like putting Aokiji in a freezer ... its like fighting heat with something that is almost as hot instead letting it cool of in the air
Just because ace lost to the same guy that harm WB, make him not on admiral level? All of WB top commanders are on admiral level if you didn't know that. Marco took on Barsolina (fairly well), and Ace is second commander for a reason. 550 million in beli isn't something you casually through around.
Marco had a Mythical Zoan type devil fruit that allowed him to heal from almost any attack and he was able to stop Akainu's punch something Ace wasn't able to do, the reason Ace got his bounty was because of his position in the WB pirates as a commander.
Ace wasn't Admiral level or anything like that he was about the same as Luffy is now at the most and I'm not underestimating him either as Ace is my favorite character it's just I know when to admit certain things, it was great injustice that the two people Ace fought where Teach and Akainu.
However the fact is your automatically assuming Ace is stronger than any of the Supernova despite not even seeing what they can do after the 2 years.
The only real assumption we can give is Ace was as strong as Jimbe, it's debatable to say Ace could match Aokiji but like Ace we never really seen what Aokiji can do yet however we do know he was able to last 10 days against Akainu who was stronger than Ace.
As I said before Ace is on the level where he could beat any of the Vice admirals but he would lose against the Admirals, and this is where some of the Supernova's are at this point of time like Luffy, Law and Kid (I assume Kid since he's boss enough to attack a Yonko on his own) and possibly Hawkins and Drake.
Ace had a bounty far above any of the Supernovas for a reason, he was the 2nd commander of Whitebeards crew(strongest crew) for a reason, he developed COC when he was a kid, Whitebeard saw him as a future Pirate King for a reason, At 17 he was already equal to Jinbei(the one who fought evenly with Post-time skip Luffy), and still continued to grow during 3years, he fought evenly with DF Blackbeard who even wounded a Yonkou like Shanks when he had no DF, he even countered attacks coming from Amiral Ao Kiji, the same one who freezed Doflamingo without moving. No i don't think any of the Supernovas is on his level yet, but they still have time to grow. Luffy, Law, Zoro and Kidd would probably surpass him. Maybe Drake and Hawkins as well
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Ace is on a whole other level of power...the supernova have a long way to go........there's a reason he debuyed as a super rookie!!!!!!1anyway the supernova i fear most are Law and killer!!!!!!! killer has skill and a brain behind it...........now law does posses the same but on another level
1. Wrong, Ace had 550 million beli before being accepted into WB crew.
2. Kuzan lost to akainu, does that make him below admiral level?
3. Wait so just because the supernova's are going after a yonkou, you think there stronger than Ace?
Ace was deemed the strongest supernova of his time, and he went after WB head just all the other supernova's.
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Ace already past 2 years of his rookie time, so you think that after he became a super rookie he just stop getting stronger?
Ace is clearly above Luffy, Kidd, Law, and Drake...You can't just assume that everyone is stronger than Ace just by appearance, and like one chapter.
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How do you know that Ace's bounty was at 550 million before he joined WB?1) You sure? I wasn't certain but I was pretty sure link me to a page please.
2) Aokiji lasted in a battle with Akainu for 10 days Ace lasted 10 seconds there's quite the difference especially considering the fact Magma was even more of a weakness to Aokiji than Ace's Mera Mera fruit.
3) Well I can't really say since I don't know Kid's full power yet but for him to attack Big Mam's ships he must be pretty strong if he's trying to take the head of a Yonkou.
Ace was deemed the strongest Rookie of his time not Luffy's or the other's Luffy's generation was called the worst generation because of how strong and dangerous they are and so what if Ace past 2 years of his rookie time what the hell has that got to do with anything you don't know how much stronger he got, not to mention he wasn't trained by the likes of Rayleigh or anyone and don't say Whitebeard trained him since you can't prove that either.
Ace was clearly above you say? so it's fact huh you seem incredibly butt hurt and seem to think your logic is completely right while pretty much everyone else is wrong? No the fact is Luffy and Law know Haki most likely Kid as well Ace's main advantage was he was a logia, and I'm not saying it would be easy but I think Ace would lose to post time skip Luffy, Law and Kid purely on the fact of their abilities.
And you can't assume Ace is stronger than every supernova on appearance either since if I remember you based Ace's strength on his bounty, while I base strength on facts on a unbiased opinion and what they could be now, you haven't even seen any of the other supernova since before the time skip yet you say Ace owns them all automatically please we haven't even seen Luffy or law's full power yet or any of the supernova so don't assume Ace is unbeatable to them until you see it.