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[SwapnilUchiha]

Yeah good point & thanks
, I think it might become Tobi & Madara vs Sasuke and naruto ?
yeah and Tobi knew alot about Danzous techniques and shiet in the sasuke ve Danzou fight

That seems legit. I really dont know about Sasuke but Naruto represents will of fire, and Madara Represents Uchiha's hate. So this combination seems good. Naruto also got Kyubbi now who is once used by Madara as his pet. So kyubbi also have grudge towords Madara.
Madara's idea to bring peace is power, while Naruto's idea to bring peace is love and to forgive others, to be more precise "Hope". So they both makes a perfect pair for battle. Their powers are also at quilibrium. Madara already stated that his perfect Susano is as powerfull as bijju and only a bijju is a match for him.

To tobi and Sasuke. Tobi is a smart man who not only depends and talks about hate. And Sasuke is confused not. Do you find something logical connection between Sas and Tobi ( like madara and Naruto ) ??

 

[SashaUchiha]

There are still some holes like LssjBroly pointed out though, lol thanks btw.

About Danzo not knowing Tobi=Kagami? I think Danzo knew pretty well... he just didn't tell enough people... I might as well go ahead and say the oldies back home know it too... Hiruzen wasn't told because he'd never agree... something like that...

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[The Thinker]

Thank U SO MUCH for the summary

 

[Legendary Broly]

That seems legit. I really dont know about Sasuke but Naruto represents will of fire, and Madara Represents Uchiha's hate. So this combination seems good. Naruto also got Kyubbi now who is once used by Madara as his pet. So kyubbi also have grudge towords Madara.
Madara's idea to bring peace is power, while Naruto's idea to bring peace is love and to forgive others, to be more precise "Hope". So they both makes a perfect pair for battle. Their powers are also at quilibrium. Madara already stated that his perfect Susano is as powerfull as bijju and only a bijju is a match for him.

To tobi and Sasuke. Tobi is a smart man who not only depends and talks about hate. And Sasuke is confused not. Do you find something logical connection between Sas and Tobi ( like madara and Naruto ) ??

Hmm good points again xd
Bro you are a man of theories
Yes I see the connection between Sasuke and Tobi
Is it just me or is Tobi rather kind to Sasuke ? Like he comforts him and shiet I will try find the exact manga page to show you xd

The contrasting between Naruto and Madara is quite strong
Naruto will be the one to take him down
Maybe it will be Naruto and juubi vs Madara in the end?

Btw I have this way Madara can be taken down ...
Tobi warps Madara as he drops a meteorite to his dimension - saving everyone , sacrificing himself and leaving Madara forever trapped in his dimension :zonder:
This then leaves Naruto vs Sasuke

Thank U SO MUCH for the summary

LoL no problem man rep+ for contributing to this thread

 

[Bmill]

Okay good theory but ask yourself this have you made theorys before and did it happen the way you thought was going to happen??also have read the recent chapters obito being tobi is already decided that they are two different characters yes there eyes are linked and connected but tobi also says he collected it during the war when kakashi got named kakashi of the sharingan..

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

Thank U SO MUCH for the summary

dam..you skimmed thru it all...you should have read it its cool as sh!t

 

[Legendary Broly]

Okay good theory but ask yourself this have you made theorys before and did it happen the way you thought was going to happen??also have read the recent chapters obito being tobi is already decided that they are two different characters yes there eyes are linked and connected but tobi also says he collected it during the war when kakashi got named kakashi of the sharingan..

So what ? If it doesn't happen it doesn't happen :scorps:
And yeah I never said that Tobi was Obito , also I mentioned that Tobi and Zetsu retrieved Obito's body and got the eye ?
And lol I am up to date with the manga
Thanks anyway xd

 

[nNoma]

Love this theory man, I always suspected Tobi of being either related to Izuna, or of being Kagami Uchiha himself.

The family tree is pretty insane too, the way you linked things together is awesome, and there isn't a huge amount of holes in this theory either. I agree Tobi's S/T doujutsu was from Obito's eye or because he was somehow an older relative of Obito's.

All-in-all terrific theory, I really wouldn't mind any of this being true. I would be pretty satisfied with this as Tobi's heritage/identity.

 

[SilverSlick]

About Danzo not knowing Tobi=Kagami? I think Danzo knew pretty well... he just didn't tell enough people... I might as well go ahead and say the oldies back home know it too... Hiruzen wasn't told because he'd never agree... something like that...

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Well, I think Danzo knew the masked man that attacked Konoha was Kagami. Whether he knew the masked man at the 5 kage summit was Kagami or not, I do not know. If my theory is correct, then the elders know Kagami and Danzo were behind the 9 tails attack, but they don't know that Kagami sided with Madara at some point. I believe after the attack, Kagami fled and started going by Madara.

Its understandable that they don't tell Hiruzen that someone was behind the attack because he wouldn't have it. For one, his wife was slaughtered by Tobi. He doesn't know this. In fact, the only people to know that Tobi was behind the attack were dead. If what you say is true, then the elders know.

Anyways, those views aren't because of me, but because of this fine thread LssjBroly put together.

 

[SwapnilUchiha]

Hmm good points again xd
Bro you are a man of theories
Yes I see the connection between Sasuke and Tobi
Is it just me or is Tobi rather kind to Sasuke ? Like he comforts him and shiet I will try find the exact manga page to show you xd

The contrasting between Naruto and Madara is quite strong
Naruto will be the one to take him down
Maybe it will be Naruto and juubi vs Madara in the end?

Btw I have this way Madara can be taken down ...
Tobi warps Madara as he drops a meteorite to his dimension - saving everyone , sacrificing himself and leaving Madara forever trapped in his dimension :zonder:
This then leaves Naruto vs Sasuke

I have found some similarities between Tobi and Sasuke. If we assume that you theory is 100% correct then both are get raised without parents. Both have grudge and dark nature. After Sasuke sacraficed Karin to kill Danzou I though he really turned into and emotionless Ninja just like Tobi. And just remember the reaction of tobi after that.

The contradiction between them is only their goal.
Sasuke wants to restore Uchiha clan which is once destroyed and tobi have taken some part of it(or might be full responsible for it). While tobi wants to trap all world into an endless illusion. And he hated everyone even Uchiha clan.
Technically speaking Sasuke's mastery over Amaterasu might rival tobi just like Konan's explosive tags done to tobi. And now tobi cant even use Izanagi.
And now after witnessing Itachi using Izanami, he might use it against Tobi.
Because Itachi alrealy stated Izanami is created to counter the arrogance and Tobi is a perfect example of arrogance.....

But all things are just thoughts. Cant confirm any of them with solid proofs. :shrug:

 

[synkross]

ok so you are basically saying Kagami is Tobi....i've said this before but here we go again....As much as i lean towards this theory it still has a major flaw we know kagami was the student of 2nd hokage who created Edo-Tensie(and was famous for it) about which Tobi had almost no knowledge of as he asked kabuto how the technique works

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if kagami was planning on following madara's will from the start he would've tried to get his hands on such a powerful tech as he was already planning on reviving madara....i can't believe that he just let it slip right through his jaws.....hell even naruto knows kakashi's raikri is a lightening style attack

anyways Kagami/Tobi theory is by far the best theory out there
unlike the Izuna theory:sy: when Madara himself said that Izuna died
nice family tree btw

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

Okay good theory but ask yourself this have you made theorys before and did it happen the way you thought was going to happen??also have read the recent chapters obito being tobi is already decided that they are two different characters yes there eyes are linked and connected but tobi also says he collected it during the war when kakashi got named kakashi of the sharingan..

so your saying tobi=obito?

this thread was for ppl like you!!

 

[SashaUchiha]

Okay good theory but ask yourself this have you made theorys before and did it happen the way you thought was going to happen??also have read the recent chapters obito being tobi is already decided that they are two different characters yes there eyes are linked and connected but tobi also says he collected it during the war when kakashi got named kakashi of the sharingan..

I didn't get your point but if you're trying to say "this might not happen", it's ok... that's why it's a "theory"... And it is good and rational... As for the manga, Tobi's ID still is just as unclear as before... we know know for certain that he has Obito's Sharingan.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

Hmm nice theory bro for real xd
The only hole is why didn't Danzou know that Kagami was Tobi if he fed Kagami the info as Tobi ?
But I get the free eyes bit :zonder: I like the idea bro

manipulation of chakra...we know that the body tobi has has been altered many times....and it can hold two of the strongest eyes around....i know even zetsu has spores on and in tobi as well im gunna say that the dna of the first plus zetzu plus....some uchiha is in him which altered the dna in tha guys dam body...****! i wanna be right s bad...this theory is good i hope

 

[SashaUchiha]

I dont think we can see that.Even to explain who the real tobi is and how he is connected to konoha, Kishi will still requires 10 to 15 chapters. There is still a mystery where Oro and Sasuke was heading and what impact it will leave on sasuke and the main-story. There are too many anaswered questions left by Kishi. And now he is just playing with us now. Feeding us a little information and creating more mysteries. Then he solves one mystery and gives more things to think about.
I personally think Kishi has made things so complecated that there is no easy way to explain everything in such a way that every Naruto fan will be happy.... xdxd

If you put Broly's and SilverSlick's theory together, you have a whole year of manga done...

Well, I think Danzo knew the masked man that attacked Konoha was Kagami. Whether he knew the masked man at the 5 kage summit was Kagami or not, I do not know. If my theory is correct, then the elders know Kagami and Danzo were behind the 9 tails attack, but they don't know that Kagami sided with Madara at some point. I believe after the attack, Kagami fled and started going by Madara.

Its understandable that they don't tell Hiruzen that someone was behind the attack because he wouldn't have it. For one, his wife was slaughtered by Tobi. He doesn't know this. In fact, the only people to know that Tobi was behind the attack were dead. If what you say is true, then the elders know.

Anyways, those views aren't because of me, but because of this fine thread LssjBroly put together.

I love how you put it...

Bold: Kagami might have only used them and they didn't realize he was playing a double game here...

 

[Legendary Broly]

Love this theory man, I always suspected Tobi of being either related to Izuna, or of being Kagami Uchiha himself.

The family tree is pretty insane too, the way you linked things together is awesome, and there isn't a huge amount of holes in this theory either. I agree Tobi's S/T doujutsu was from Obito's eye or because he was somehow an older relative of Obito's.

All-in-all terrific theory, I really wouldn't mind any of this being true. I would be pretty satisfied with this as Tobi's heritage/identity.

Thanks so much wease: rep+ in gratitude xd
And yeah I like the idea of how Obito and Tobi are linked in more ways then one xd

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yes wease: thanks to people like you who kept alive thanks :hug:

I have found some similarities between Tobi and Sasuke. If we assume that you theory is 100% correct then both are get raised without parents. Both have grudge and dark nature. After Sasuke sacraficed Karin to kill Danzou I though he really turned into and emotionless Ninja just like Tobi. And just remember the reaction of tobi after that.

The contradiction between them is only their goal.
Sasuke wants to restore Uchiha clan which is once destroyed and tobi have taken some part of it(or might be full responsible for it). While tobi wants to trap all world into an endless illusion. And he hated everyone even Uchiha clan.
Technically speaking Sasuke's mastery over Amaterasu might rival tobi just like Konan's explosive tags done to tobi. And now tobi cant even use Izanagi.
And now after witnessing Itachi using Izanami, he might use it against Tobi.
Because Itachi alrealy stated Izanami is created to counter the arrogance and Tobi is a perfect example of arrogance.....

But all things are just thoughts. Cant confirm any of them with solid proofs. :shrug:

I actually like your idea - it explains why tobi has empathy towards Sasuke
Yeah but Tobi seemed to be able to put out Amaterasu ?
And I agree tobi is at risk of Izanami more then anyone - I mean he is having an identity crisis ?

Thank U SO MUCH for the summary

LOL rep+ for contribution to thread xd

ok so you are basically saying Kagami is Tobi....i've said this before but here we go again....As much as i lean towards this theory it still has a major flaw we know kagami was the student of 2nd hokage who created Edo-Tensie(and was famous for it) about which Tobi had almost no knowledge of as he asked kabuto how the technique works

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if kagami was planning on following madara's will from the start he would've tried to get his hands on such a powerful tech as he was already planning on reviving madara....i can't believe that he just let it slip right through his jaws.....hell even naruto knows kakashi's raikri is a lightening style attack

anyways Kagami/Tobi theory is by far the best theory out there
unlike the Izuna theory:sy: when Madara himself said that Izuna died
nice family tree btw

yeah but I mean Kagami didn't literally train under Tobirama
I mean he was added somewhat to the group for that one off mission - again showing how he is an elite ninja being added to the group for such a mission
As for Edo Tensei it is a forbidden technique - you wouldn't expect to see him use it often especially infront of kagami as like I said was only added to the group
yeah I agree with the Izuna theory flaw
And thanks man rep+ for your ideas

so your saying tobi=obito?

this thread was for ppl like you!!

I didn't get your point but if you're trying to say "this might not happen", it's ok... that's why it's a "theory"... And it is good and rational... As for the manga, Tobi's ID still is just as unclear as before... we know know for certain that he has Obito's Sharingan.

this xd :scorps:

manipulation of chakra...we know that the body tobi has has been altered many times....and it can hold two of the strongest eyes around....i know even zetsu has spores on and in tobi as well im gunna say that the dna of the first plus zetzu plus....some uchiha is in him which altered the dna in tha guys dam body...****! i wanna be right s bad...this theory is good i hope

Hmm yeah I agree that Tobi has a similar technique as zetsu which allows him to appear to be someone he is not

 

[metallica9565]

its been confirmed that Tobi is using one of Obito Uchiha's sharingan eyes as his own. its also been confirmed that Kakashi's Kamui and Tobi's "eye technique" are linked as one. Kamui is a unique jutsu usable only with Obito's mangekyou sharingan. so assuming that Kamui is the technique which Obito has been using, that should mean that at some point he would of had to have awakened Obito's mangekyou sharingan as well in order to use the technique. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

 

[Legendary Broly]

its been confirmed that Tobi is using one of Obito Uchiha's sharingan eyes as his own. its also been confirmed that Kakashi's Kamui and Tobi's "eye technique" are linked as one. Kamui is a unique jutsu usable only with Obito's mangekyou sharingan. so assuming that Kamui is the technique which Obito has been using, that should mean that at some point he would of had to have awakened Obito's mangekyou sharingan as well in order to use the technique. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

Omg bro rep+
This supports my theory !

 

[SashaUchiha]

its been confirmed that Tobi is using one of Obito Uchiha's sharingan eyes as his own. its also been confirmed that Kakashi's Kamui and Tobi's "eye technique" are linked as one. Kamui is a unique jutsu usable only with Obito's mangekyou sharingan. so assuming that Kamui is the technique which Obito has been using, that should mean that at some point he would of had to have awakened Obito's mangekyou sharingan as well in order to use the technique. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

What you say is not incorrect... but it's not necessary... you know what I mean? Tobi has Obito's Sharingan... we already know that...

I am gonna keep saying that Tobi has no MS till I see it. As for why he can do such advanced jutsu? 1. He is an Uchiha. 2. He has superior mastery over his Sharingan. 3. He has a bit of Senju DNA (He said that during Konan's fight) 4. Kamui is long range and arguably superior to Tobi's ST. In other words, Tobi's jutsu NOT= Kamui.

off topic: I love your sig... I miss the cute Tobi so much! :T_T:

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

About Danzo not knowing Tobi=Kagami? I think Danzo knew pretty well... he just didn't tell enough people... I might as well go ahead and say the oldies back home know it too... Hiruzen wasn't told because he'd never agree... something like that...

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see that? there is no "!" or "..." in a bubble near danzo's head..they know something...orochimaru is in it too..here is the connect
tobi=danzo=shisui
yugara=tobi=danzo=kagami(the mist and leaf anbu)
orochimaruo=danzo=kabuto=tobi=madara=nagato=zetsu

how nagato got them eyes?
how madara know nagato
why did madara/tobi/kagami control yugara
how kabuto knew how to fully powerful a PRIME madara's body
the first-zetsu/yamato experiment thru orochi
who IS zetsu? who made them clones?
the "inserection" in the mist and the 7 swords men
(how you form a team if the whole place is in chaos!!)
yo im too high off this thread man..