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This thread is pretty much all my random theories mashed into one thread
(CBF making multiple ones xd)
I am going to answer some common questions with my own theories , and probably end up asking some more questions :ghehe:
BTW I EDITED MY SHIUSI THEORY IT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW ! :ghehe:
On a side note - People please understand that this is just theories - I am not saying they are true or wrong it is just a few theories so guy's don't get too up tight about if you don't agree
:scorps:
Btw I am pretty confident with my theories tbh So if anyone can find a hole in them well I'll rep+ you and you have the satisfaction of owning LssJBroly
Warning's before hand :
What I am covering in the thread
The centre of the thread is an epic Uchiha Family Tree I have devised
It is this family tree that will help me answer the following :
-Why Tobi does not have EMS
-How Tobi got MS
-Shisui's suspicious death and where his body is
-One of Zetsu's puposes
- Why Tobi wants Sasuke
-Why Tobi's MS does not go blind
Also I will throw in some other theories like:
-How Tobi deceived Kisame into believing he was Madara
-How infinite Tsukuyomi works
There may be more as it comes to me :ghehe: anyway lets go xd
The Ultimate Uchiha Family Tree :
Izuna Uchiha
is the dad of Kagami Uchiha
who is the dad of Obito and Shisui Uchiha
If you think about it this is a pretty bad ass family tree U_U
Izuna with his MS
Kagami who trained with Danzou and Hiruzen
Obito with his OP sharingan - Kamui & S/T
Shisui and KA
This is a powerful bloodline xd
-They are resemble each other a bit imo
been discussing in the thread and this came up :
*Tobi and his powerful genjutsu that controlled Yagura resembles Shisui's KA as well as the genjutsu he used on Konan - points to being relatives, a powerful bloodline?
The age's matches up as well :
Izuna is the generation above Kagami ( Madara's little bro - same age as Tobirama who is Hash's little bro and trained Hiruzen the same age as Kagami)
Kagami is around the same age as Hiruzen who had Asuma who would be around the same age as Obito
Obito ios a few years older then Shisui as Itachi is a few years older then Sasuke xd
Anyway:
If Izuna is Kagami's dad - (Kagami is Tobi) - this explains a lot of things
-It explains why Tobi would clench his arm when speaking of Izuna's loving sacrifice as this ultimatley went to waste, caused his dad's death and left him an orphan xd xd
Number 2 is why Tobi does not have EMS
Its obvious Tobi does not have EMS U_U
-Why would Tobi go and use other peoples rinnegan and not form his own ?
Why doesn't he ?
Well, regardless of who Tobi is - his age suggests he was born back in founding of Konoha era
In this time you'd expect Tobi to have a sibling especially because this was a time when the Uchiha clan were worshipping those with MS, EMS etc.
Why wouldn't you want this for your child - especially being a competitive Uchiha U_U
My theory:
Being Izuna's son , his dad died young which left him an only child and I am going to say an orphan (mum dies at child birth )
-Being an orphan also explains his path towards evil - see Kabuto and Sasori for example U_U
It also explains his connection to Madara : Read if you wish xd
Being an only child leaves tobi with no way to get EMS :T_T:
Unless ..
This brings me to Obito and Shisui
We know that Tobi is patient
So he has two kids in order for them to get EMS from one another xd
This is where Zetsu comes in xd
One of his initial purposes is to watch over them until they get EMS alerting Tobi who will retrieve the eyes
But ofcourse this happens U_U
Ruining the plan
Zetsu alerts Tobi who tells Zetsu to retrieve the body then he takes his eye
Tobi getting MS :
Tobi tests out the eye's abilities which explains what happened to Rin
To unlock MS Tobi kills Rin
If you think about it Rin's disappearance is suspicious
Only an elite ninja should of been able to kill her or kidnap her as Minato and Kakashi were both keeping an especially close eye on her after Obito's death
This points to Tobi who has entered the village undetected before or Zetsu who is named the Akatsuki spy for a reason
Shisui's suspicious death
Is it just me or does the whole concept of Shisui just killing himself sound stupid ?
I say Tobi at once last attempt to get EMS approached Shisui
I believe he planned on using him much like he is using Sasuke - lead him on a bit - let him be a part of Akatsuki etc.
Then he planned on using Shisui's MS to make EMS with Obito's eye - then take the EMS mush like he plans on taking Sasukes (IMO)
However again a failed plan U_U
Shisui catches on his eye is taken by Danzou - This is suspicious as how did Danzou manage to take his eye - Shisui is supposed to be OP U_U
I think Shisui forfeited it as he knew that it would be safe from Tobi with Danzou for a short while
He then gives his other eye to Itachi
He then confronts Tobi blind and kills himself - why ?
He would of killed himself for the best of the village - this would stop Tobi implanting Obito's eye in him and evolving EMS as he is dead - Tobi however warped his body to his dimension in order to test whether he still could evolve the MS but this would fail xd
This brings me to Why Tobi wants Sasuke :
[/B] The plan failed twice for Tobi to get EMS so Tobi obviously wants Sasuke for his EMS
He plans on stealing it casting the infinite Tsukuyomi which I believe you need EMS for - eternal - infinite- etc..
That is how I think infinite Tsukuyomi works
Oh yeah and one last thing :
How Tobi deceived Kisame into believing he was Madara
Well being part zetsu :
which me and a friend decided was because he is old to keep his body in knack - has its advantages other then this U_U
We know that Zetsu can take on the appearance of any one whose chakra he touches
Tobi can get hold of Madara's chakra easily imo
If the rinnegan is supposedly Madara's there is chakra there for example
Using the a similar technique to Zetsu's he manages to pull of being Madara through appearance and chakra etc .. :shrug:
Okay lol I see that theory is a weaker one
EDIT: view some nice as theories in the comments about zetsu they seem more legit then this - they mention Kisame being controlled unknowingly by Tobi check them out for more details
An Extra thing I thought of xd
Why Tobi's MS has not gone blind :
This because Tobi claims to have senju DNA - we already know how senju DNA enhances the sharingan as seen with Shisui's KA - what if the Senju DNA also enhances the length of time the sharingan's sight can last for ? I mean it supposedly enhances the length of ones life - why not the eye sight in this unique dojutsu ? :scorps:
And yeah ofc like a member reminded me he hasn't exactly spammed any big ass moves like Amaterasu, Susanoo or Tsukuyomi :shrug:
Anyway that is the end of my thread xd
Is this you ^^^ U_U
Well here is a summary :
- Izuna is Kagami's dad who is Obito and Shisui's dad
-For Infinite Tsukuyomi you need EMS
-Tobi has Shisui's body or killed Shisui , he also killed Rin xd
-Tobi wants Sasuke for his EMS
-Tobi deceived Kisame using a similar technique as Zetsu does - copying appearance and chakra since he is part Zetsu
-Tobi's MS does not go blind as fast as it is enhanced by senju DNA
Any flaws ? point them out
Rep+ for all good comments and -rep for people who start saying 'didn't read' etc oh yeah and a slap
Thanks for reading if you did xd
EDIT: THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE REP I WOULD THANK YOU INDIVIDUALLY BUT I CAN'T RETRACE YOU GUYS ! xd I REPPED BACK THE ONES WHO COMMENTED BECAUSE I COULD FIND THEM THANKS I REALLY APPRECIATED IT xd
(CBF making multiple ones xd)
I am going to answer some common questions with my own theories , and probably end up asking some more questions :ghehe:
BTW I EDITED MY SHIUSI THEORY IT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW ! :ghehe:
On a side note - People please understand that this is just theories - I am not saying they are true or wrong it is just a few theories so guy's don't get too up tight about if you don't agree
:scorps:
Btw I am pretty confident with my theories tbh
So if anyone can find a hole in them well I'll rep+ you and you have the satisfaction of owning LssJBroly Warning's before hand :
-Includes some Tobi ID suggestions , it is the centre of all theories really, all theories are pretty much revolve round who he is U_U just give the thread a chance and you'll see what I mean :scorps:
What I am covering in the thread
The centre of the thread is an epic Uchiha Family Tree I have devised
It is this family tree that will help me answer the following :
-Why Tobi does not have EMS
-How Tobi got MS
-Shisui's suspicious death and where his body is
-One of Zetsu's puposes
- Why Tobi wants Sasuke
-Why Tobi's MS does not go blind
Also I will throw in some other theories like:
-How Tobi deceived Kisame into believing he was Madara
-How infinite Tsukuyomi works
There may be more as it comes to me :ghehe: anyway lets go xd
The Ultimate Uchiha Family Tree :
Izuna Uchiha
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is the dad of Kagami Uchiha
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who is the dad of Obito and Shisui Uchiha
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If you think about it this is a pretty bad ass family tree U_U
Izuna with his MS
Kagami who trained with Danzou and Hiruzen
Obito with his OP sharingan - Kamui & S/T
Shisui and KA
This is a powerful bloodline xd
-They are resemble each other a bit imo
been discussing in the thread and this came up :
*Tobi and his powerful genjutsu that controlled Yagura resembles Shisui's KA as well as the genjutsu he used on Konan - points to being relatives, a powerful bloodline?
The age's matches up as well :
Izuna is the generation above Kagami ( Madara's little bro - same age as Tobirama who is Hash's little bro and trained Hiruzen the same age as Kagami)
Kagami is around the same age as Hiruzen who had Asuma who would be around the same age as Obito
Obito ios a few years older then Shisui as Itachi is a few years older then Sasuke xd
Anyway:
If Izuna is Kagami's dad - (Kagami is Tobi) - this explains a lot of things
-It explains why Tobi would clench his arm when speaking of Izuna's loving sacrifice as this ultimatley went to waste, caused his dad's death and left him an orphan xd xd
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Its obvious Tobi does not have EMS U_U
-Why would Tobi go and use other peoples rinnegan and not form his own ?
Why doesn't he ?
Well, regardless of who Tobi is - his age suggests he was born back in founding of Konoha era
In this time you'd expect Tobi to have a sibling especially because this was a time when the Uchiha clan were worshipping those with MS, EMS etc.
Why wouldn't you want this for your child - especially being a competitive Uchiha U_U
My theory:
Being Izuna's son , his dad died young which left him an only child and I am going to say an orphan (mum dies at child birth )
-Being an orphan also explains his path towards evil - see Kabuto and Sasori for example U_U
It also explains his connection to Madara : Read if you wish xd
-Madara would be able to trust Kagami because of the family bond they have and would tell him all his plans , give the rinnegan e.g . ONLY FAMILY BOND ALSO
-He would initially follow Madara because of his dad's faith in him and sacrifice to him and also because he would want to follow the will of his dad and help Madara out
-Kagami would also be easily be swayed into following Madara's beliefs after being brought up in a war torn world and seeing that the Senju had not fixed anything - killed dada etc ..
-He would initially follow Madara because of his dad's faith in him and sacrifice to him and also because he would want to follow the will of his dad and help Madara out
-Kagami would also be easily be swayed into following Madara's beliefs after being brought up in a war torn world and seeing that the Senju had not fixed anything - killed dada etc ..
Being an only child leaves tobi with no way to get EMS :T_T:
Unless ..
This brings me to Obito and Shisui
We know that Tobi is patient
So he has two kids in order for them to get EMS from one another xd
This is where Zetsu comes in xd
One of his initial purposes is to watch over them until they get EMS alerting Tobi who will retrieve the eyes
But ofcourse this happens U_U
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Zetsu alerts Tobi who tells Zetsu to retrieve the body then he takes his eye
Tobi getting MS :
Tobi tests out the eye's abilities which explains what happened to Rin
To unlock MS Tobi kills Rin
If you think about it Rin's disappearance is suspicious
Only an elite ninja should of been able to kill her or kidnap her as Minato and Kakashi were both keeping an especially close eye on her after Obito's death
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Shisui's suspicious death
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I say Tobi at once last attempt to get EMS approached Shisui
I believe he planned on using him much like he is using Sasuke - lead him on a bit - let him be a part of Akatsuki etc.
Then he planned on using Shisui's MS to make EMS with Obito's eye - then take the EMS mush like he plans on taking Sasukes (IMO)
However again a failed plan U_U
Shisui catches on his eye is taken by Danzou - This is suspicious as how did Danzou manage to take his eye - Shisui is supposed to be OP U_U
I think Shisui forfeited it as he knew that it would be safe from Tobi with Danzou for a short while
He then gives his other eye to Itachi
He then confronts Tobi blind and kills himself - why ?
He would of killed himself for the best of the village - this would stop Tobi implanting Obito's eye in him and evolving EMS as he is dead - Tobi however warped his body to his dimension in order to test whether he still could evolve the MS but this would fail xd
This brings me to Why Tobi wants Sasuke :
[/B] The plan failed twice for Tobi to get EMS so Tobi obviously wants Sasuke for his EMS
He plans on stealing it casting the infinite Tsukuyomi which I believe you need EMS for - eternal - infinite- etc..
That is how I think infinite Tsukuyomi works
Oh yeah and one last thing :
How Tobi deceived Kisame into believing he was Madara
Well being part zetsu :
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We know that Zetsu can take on the appearance of any one whose chakra he touches
Tobi can get hold of Madara's chakra easily imo
If the rinnegan is supposedly Madara's there is chakra there for example
Using the a similar technique to Zetsu's he manages to pull of being Madara through appearance and chakra etc .. :shrug:
Okay lol I see that theory is a weaker one
EDIT: view some nice as theories in the comments about zetsu they seem more legit then this - they mention Kisame being controlled unknowingly by Tobi check them out for more details
An Extra thing I thought of xd
Why Tobi's MS has not gone blind :
This because Tobi claims to have senju DNA - we already know how senju DNA enhances the sharingan as seen with Shisui's KA - what if the Senju DNA also enhances the length of time the sharingan's sight can last for ? I mean it supposedly enhances the length of ones life - why not the eye sight in this unique dojutsu ? :scorps:
And yeah ofc like a member reminded me he hasn't exactly spammed any big ass moves like Amaterasu, Susanoo or Tsukuyomi :shrug:
Anyway that is the end of my thread xd
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Is this you ^^^ U_U
Well here is a summary :
- Izuna is Kagami's dad who is Obito and Shisui's dad
-For Infinite Tsukuyomi you need EMS
-Tobi has Shisui's body or killed Shisui , he also killed Rin xd
-Tobi wants Sasuke for his EMS
-Tobi deceived Kisame using a similar technique as Zetsu does - copying appearance and chakra since he is part Zetsu
-Tobi's MS does not go blind as fast as it is enhanced by senju DNA
Any flaws ? point them out
Rep+ for all good comments and -rep for people who start saying 'didn't read' etc oh yeah and a slap
Thanks for reading if you did xd
EDIT: THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE REP I WOULD THANK YOU INDIVIDUALLY BUT I CAN'T RETRACE YOU GUYS ! xd I REPPED BACK THE ONES WHO COMMENTED BECAUSE I COULD FIND THEM
THANKS I REALLY APPRECIATED IT xd
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