Super theory. inc- EMS, Shisui, Tobi stuff and more ?

[Legendary Broly]

I really wanted to see Shisui and kido Itachi in manga. When nine tailed attacked konoha as per tobi's instruction, before the attack Itachi holding Sasuke was shown. No other Uchiha members are shown. So maybe Kishi should show what shisui was doing at that time.
Maybe he was watching over Tobi or something. I am getting feeling that he also was like Itachi. Doing good things while remaining in dark.... I dont know. It might be just random thought.

Hmm good theories always seem to come from your mouth xd
I want to see that xd
Maybe prior to the massacre I want to see a Shisui and Tobi confrontation - who knows maybe if like I said Tobi is holding Shisui captive - he could still be alive ?

 

[orochimaru]

if i knew about the summary i wouldn't have read the whole thing...anyhow theories should prove something...what does yours prove? its only predictions...

 

[Legendary Broly]

Ey LssjBroly, I've got another theory. I'm sure you've heard something similar, lol.

Anyways, lets just assume that Tobi is Kagami.

I believe that Kagami helped form Root along with Danzo since they were in the same squad. Now I personally believe that Tobi came up with the practices of Root in terms of personality and emotions. Tobi himself is almost emotionless and killing has no effect on him. He has probably detached himself from all family members, including Obito and Shisui if they were his chitlens, lol. Now here is a connection I found with Root and Kirigakure during the bloody mist era. Here's a quote from the wiki



Now, who was the Mizukage during the bloody mist era? Yagura. Who was he being controlled by? That's right, Tobi.

I believe Danzo handled the missions and stuff while Kagami/Tobi handled the training and raising of Root members. Get what I'm saying?

Alright, now here is something I kinda thought up recently. I believe that Kagami was a triple agent. I believe, like Itachi, Kagami probably fed information about the Uchiha clan to Root. But, I think Kagami met Madara at some point and his ideology changed, thus becoming a triple agent who fed information about Root and Uchiha to his new ally Madara. Around this time, they probably created the moon eye plan together.

hey bro awesome theory here xd
That could also link with the orphan thing - I mean it would be easier to train Kagami who has no siblings into losing his emotions and getting involved iin that kind of thing

And OMG you are again onto something here xd
Raising and training good point - only Danzou is stupid not to notice Kagami was Tobi at the Sasuke fight U_U
I like the timeline actually it seems to fit

 

[CamW]

thats what im saying..it makes lots of good strong points right

Yup

 

[SwapnilUchiha]

Hmm good theories always seem to come from your mouth xd
I want to see that xd
Maybe prior to the massacre I want to see a Shisui and Tobi confrontation - who knows maybe if like I said Tobi is holding Shisui captive - he could still be alive ?

Tobi also stated that he and Danzou mate at the time of Uchiha clan massacre. He might be the one to fed this massacre plan in Danzou and other elders to get rid of all Uchiha's out of his path. But he let Sasuke live and joined Itachi in akatsuki to ensure that Sasuke will end up evolving his Sharingan into EMS, so he can use it for Infinite Tsukoyomi.
Shisui and Itachi might be predicted this plan thats why Shisui tried to stop Massacre and Itachi tried to kill tobi by implanting his Amaterasu in Sasuke.
But unfortunately both failed ....

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

if i knew about the summary i wouldn't have read the whole thing...anyhow theories should prove something...what does yours prove? its only predictions...

it wasnt ment to prove...it was ment to enlighten..that was kinda stated in the beginning
but it gave:
an explanation of a good fam tree
rin's death
why tobi wanted sasuke
why tobi/obito/rest of the clan are somehow connected....

 

[Legendary Broly]

if i knew about the summary i wouldn't have read the whole thing...anyhow theories should prove something...what does yours prove? its only predictions...

Since when does all theories have to prove something ?
Aren't all theories simply speculation ?
They simply suggest ? U_U
I suggested why Tobi has MS and not EMS and how infinite Tsukuyomi works etc ..

Rethink bro

An idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action]

this is the definition of theory , it is an idea that tries to explain something it does not necessarily have to be real or correct or true U_U :scorps:

 

[SwapnilUchiha]

Ey LssjBroly, I've got another theory. I'm sure you've heard something similar, lol.

Anyways, lets just assume that Tobi is Kagami.

I believe that Kagami helped form Root along with Danzo since they were in the same squad. Now I personally believe that Tobi came up with the practices of Root in terms of personality and emotions. Tobi himself is almost emotionless and killing has no effect on him. He has probably detached himself from all family members, including Obito and Shisui if they were his chitlens, lol. Now here is a connection I found with Root and Kirigakure during the bloody mist era. Here's a quote from the wiki



Now, who was the Mizukage during the bloody mist era? Yagura. Who was he being controlled by? That's right, Tobi.

I believe Danzo handled the missions and stuff while Kagami/Tobi handled the training and raising of Root members. Get what I'm saying?

Alright, now here is something I kinda thought up recently. I believe that Kagami was a triple agent. I believe, like Itachi, Kagami probably fed information about the Uchiha clan to Root. But, I think Kagami met Madara at some point and his ideology changed, thus becoming a triple agent who fed information about Root and Uchiha to his new ally Madara. Around this time, they probably created the moon eye plan together.

You made a good point...
completely logical and in a perfect timeline....

 

[SilverSlick]

hey bro awesome theory here xd
That could also link with the orphan thing - I mean it would be easier to train Kagami who has no siblings into losing his emotions and getting involved iin that kind of thing

And OMG you are again onto something here xd
Raising and training good point - only Danzou is stupid not to notice Kagami was Tobi at the Sasuke fight U_U
I like the timeline actually it seems to fit

Anyways, what that quote proved was that Tobi was somehow connected to Root. I also believe Tobi attacked the village on behalf of root. This led to Konoha blaming the whole attack on the Uchiha, this as we all know, led to the Uchiha Massacre which meant free eyes for Danzo and Tobi!!!

You know, I've almost convinced myself that Kagami is Tobi. The Root connection did it for me.

Oh yeah, Danzo was probably one of the only ones to know the location of where Kushina was having her baby since he had his men guard the damn place. Danzo probably fed this information to Tobi.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Yup

Thanks xd

Tobi also stated that he and Danzou mate at the time of Uchiha clan massacre. He might be the one to fed this massacre plan in Danzou and other elders to get rid of all Uchiha's out of his path. But he let Sasuke live and joined Itachi in akatsuki to ensure that Sasuke will end up evolving his Sharingan into EMS, so he can use it for Infinite Tsukoyomi.
Shisui and Itachi might be predicted this plan thats why Shisui tried to stop Massacre and Itachi tried to kill tobi by implanting his Amaterasu in Sasuke.
But unfortunately both failed ....

Yeah , I mean Tobi wanted Shisui's eye and then went for Sasuke's one !
And yeah it sucks they both failed :T_T:
I wish I saw a Itachi & Shisui tag team fight or something

it wasnt ment to prove...it was ment to enlighten..that was kinda stated in the beginning
but it gave:
an explanation of a good fam tree
rin's death
why tobi wanted sasuke
why tobi/obito/rest of the clan are somehow connected....

Thanks bro , you are the best :scorps:

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

i want to be in troll hunter and senju clan group..but dont kno how to sign up...epic loneliness

 

[Legendary Broly]

Anyways, what that quote proved was that Tobi was somehow connected to Root. I also believe Tobi attacked the village on behalf of root. This led to Konoha blaming the whole attack on the Uchiha, this as we all know, led to the Uchiha Massacre which meant free eyes for Danzo and Tobi!!!

You know, I've almost convinced myself that Kagami is Tobi. The Root connection did it for me.

Oh yeah, Danzo was probably one of the only ones to know the location of where Kushina was having her baby since he had his men guard the damn place. Danzo probably fed this information to Tobi.

Hmm nice theory bro for real xd
The only hole is why didn't Danzou know that Kagami was Tobi if he fed Kagami the info as Tobi ?
But I get the free eyes bit :zonder: I like the idea bro

 

[SilverSlick]

Hmm nice theory bro for real xd
The only hole is why didn't Danzou know that Kagami was Tobi if he fed Kagami the info as Tobi ?
But I get the free eyes bit :zonder: I like the idea bro

Lol, ****. Let me think for a bit.

 

[SwapnilUchiha]

Anyways, what that quote proved was that Tobi was somehow connected to Root. I also believe Tobi attacked the village on behalf of root. This led to Konoha blaming the whole attack on the Uchiha, this as we all know, led to the Uchiha Massacre which meant free eyes for Danzo and Tobi!!!

You know, I've almost convinced myself that Kagami is Tobi. The Root connection did it for me.

Oh yeah, Danzo was probably one of the only ones to know the location of where Kushina was having her baby since he had his men guard the damn place. Danzo probably fed this information to Tobi.

Together both of you made a strong and solid theory. If this kind of thing comes out then Sasuke might be found out that Tobi was a mastermind behind the massacre and go against him to avenge a clan's death. That will be epic.
I always had a feeling that Danzou and Tobi were always on the same level and knew about each others a lot. I am not saying that they should be friends. This is all politics ...

 

[SashaUchiha]

Ahaha you guys are too king



Um go to social groups and have a search ?
What sort of group btw ? xd




Ahaha your theory was crushed :T_T:
Yeah sadly Rin is long gone

I don't care xd I have better ones now...

Ey LssjBroly, I've got another theory. I'm sure you've heard something similar, lol.

Anyways, lets just assume that Tobi is Kagami.

I believe that Kagami helped form Root along with Danzo since they were in the same squad. Now I personally believe that Tobi came up with the practices of Root in terms of personality and emotions. Tobi himself is almost emotionless and killing has no effect on him. He has probably detached himself from all family members, including Obito and Shisui if they were his chitlens, lol. Now here is a connection I found with Root and Kirigakure during the bloody mist era. Here's a quote from the wiki



Now, who was the Mizukage during the bloody mist era? Yagura. Who was he being controlled by? That's right, Tobi.

I believe Danzo handled the missions and stuff while Kagami/Tobi handled the training and raising of Root members. Get what I'm saying?

Alright, now here is something I kinda thought up recently. I believe that Kagami was a triple agent. I believe, like Itachi, Kagami probably fed information about the Uchiha clan to Root. But, I think Kagami met Madara at some point and his ideology changed, thus becoming a triple agent who fed information about Root and Uchiha to his new ally Madara. Around this time, they probably created the moon eye plan together.

My friend you have just opened a full can of worms...

Anyways, what that quote proved was that Tobi was somehow connected to Root. I also believe Tobi attacked the village on behalf of root. This led to Konoha blaming the whole attack on the Uchiha, this as we all know, led to the Uchiha Massacre which meant free eyes for Danzo and Tobi!!!

You know, I've almost convinced myself that Kagami is Tobi. The Root connection did it for me.

Oh yeah, Danzo was probably one of the only ones to know the location of where Kushina was having her baby since he had his men guard the damn place. Danzo probably fed this information to Tobi.

...and now the worms are having a party...
+rep! all of it makes perfect sense! I just had that "Oh my God! Why didn't I think of it before!" moment... Fantastic.

Thats also makes me think, Danzo probably knew who Tobi was, he just wanted to create chaos by telling everyone that Tobi was Madara. During his fight with Sasuke, he just didn't talk about it because of the plot...

 

[SilverSlick]

I don't care xd I have better ones now...



My friend you have just opened a full can of worms...



...and now the worms are having a party...
+rep! all of it makes perfect sense! I just had that "Oh my God! Why didn't I think of it before!" moment... Fantastic.

Thats also makes me think, Danzo probably knew who Tobi was, he just wanted to create chaos by telling everyone that Tobi was Madara. During his fight with Sasuke, he just didn't talk about it because of the plot...

There are still some holes like LssjBroly pointed out though, lol thanks btw.

 

[Legendary Broly]

i want to be in troll hunter and senju clan group..but dont kno how to sign up...epic loneliness

I could make a group ?
there isn't any room left in the troll hunters .. :ghehe:

Lol, ****. Let me think for a bit.

Ahah algoods bro you will come up with something good

Together both of you made a strong and solid theory. If this kind of thing comes out then Sasuke might be found out that Tobi was a mastermind behind the massacre and go against him to avenge a clan's death. That will be epic.
I always had a feeling that Danzou and Tobi were always on the same level and knew about each others a lot. I am not saying that they should be friends. This is all politics ...

Yeah good point & thanks
, I think it might become Tobi & Madara vs Sasuke and naruto ?
yeah and Tobi knew alot about Danzous techniques and shiet in the sasuke ve Danzou fight

 

[SwapnilUchiha]

Yeah , I mean Tobi wanted Shisui's eye and then went for Sasuke's one !
And yeah it sucks they both failed :T_T:
I wish I saw a Itachi & Shisui tag team fight or something

I dont think we can see that.Even to explain who the real tobi is and how he is connected to konoha, Kishi will still requires 10 to 15 chapters. There is still a mystery where Oro and Sasuke was heading and what impact it will leave on sasuke and the main-story. There are too many anaswered questions left by Kishi. And now he is just playing with us now. Feeding us a little information and creating more mysteries. Then he solves one mystery and gives more things to think about.
I personally think Kishi has made things so complecated that there is no easy way to explain everything in such a way that every Naruto fan will be happy.... xdxd

 

[virus142]

good theory, obito and shisui being siblings would explain shisui's MS

 

[Legendary Broly]

I dont think we can see that.Even to explain who the real tobi is and how he is connected to konoha, Kishi will still requires 10 to 15 chapters. There is still a mystery where Oro and Sasuke was heading and what impact it will leave on sasuke and the main-story. There are too many anaswered questions left by Kishi. And now he is just playing with us now. Feeding us a little information and creating more mysteries. Then he solves one mystery and gives more things to think about.
I personally think Kishi has made things so complecated that there is no easy way to explain everything in such a way that every Naruto fan will be happy.... xdxd

:T_T: It would of been awesome xd
If there is a Naruto spin off I call for one following Shisui and Itachi
And yeah you are right hopefully Kishi hasn't dug himself into a hole U_U
But he is pretty talented with the plot twists etc..
If only the story was as simple as my thread xd

good theory, obito and shisui being siblings would explain shisui's MS

Thanks man
And explain his MS ? How ?
I am interested to hear this xd