Suiton with Nathan.

[-Albel-]

-Waits patiently.-

Here is my previous water training thread.

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I stopped at B-rank (Suiton: Teppoudama) - Water Style: Water Bullet. If you need the link to my first training thread where I learned D-rank through some of the B-rank jutsus before Shigure starting teaching me, please let me know and I will provide the link. ^^

 

[Nathan]

Okay I want you to perform Water Style: Water Bullet again but using my template, please.

[CODE][B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
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[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
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[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B][/CODE]

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Well I'm sure that this version of the water bullet is much bigger than its C-ranked one, so one advantage would be that it can block your opponents vision of you when used. With them no longer able to see you(unless they have a doujutsu or sensing) you can surprise them with a sneak attack.
  
• 2. Well in the description it says the user will perform a single hand-seal which means you can use any type of seal to use this jutsu. So you can end up tricking your opponent by performing the known main hand-seal needed for wind jutsus, and cause him to think that you are about to use a wind type jutsu thus he will more than likely try to use fire to counter. When he releases the fire and expects you to release some form a wind jutsu, a sphere of water will come out instead causing your opponent to be confused and having to use another jutsu to defend with as his fire would have been easily taken out.
  
• 3. The water sphere after it has made contact will leave a huge area soaked in water, you can use a lightning jutsu to run across the ground after having distracted your opponent first with either a jutsu or ninja tools and hit him, shocking/paralyzing him which will keep him from moving temporarily so you can go in for the finish.

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Like I said above, the jutsu should be big enough to block your opponents vision of you when used, but then it will also do the same to you as you wont be able to see him either once it is launched. Meaning you wont be able to tell if your opponent has gone under ground or something along those lines to perform a sneak attack on you.
  
• 2. If you are in a small inclosed area and use this jutsu, you could end up getting soaked yourself once the sphere hits something. This will make you a big target for lightning jutsus or even some ice type jutsus that are able to free anything that is wet.
  
• 3. Hmm...I'm stumped on a third disadvantage.
  

How you would use it in battle: Since it is big I would just use it to hide me and possibly run behind it as it travels towards my opponent, and as me and the sphere draw closer I would jump up into the air where I can see my opponent and release another jutsu at short range while he has to defend from the water sphere. I know that I wouldn't be able to see what he would do as I run towards him behind my water attack, but most jutsus you can hear or feel coming at you so if my opponent were to use a jutsu to counter the sphere say like an earth jutsu, I would be able to hear the ground coming apart and feel it as well. Or say if he countered with a piercing type lighting jutsu I would be able to hear it and be able to dodge or counter it while still hiding behind the sphere of water. I have many other ways I would use it, but meh. o.o

How you would counter it: I would do what most people would think as being dumb, but I would counter using a A-ranked fire jutsu. When the two jutsus clash it will cause steam to appear blocking the vision of both me and my opponent, but I can use that to make a surprised counter attack.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I would start off by gathering up my chakra in my body and channeling it into my mouth and then begin changing it's nature to water. Once I have done so I would open my mouth wide and I release the newly formed water, but as it leaves my mouth I use my chakra that is inside of it already and begin to change its shape. Using shape manipulation I would make the water form into a large sized sphere of rotating water that when it makes contact with something it will leave that whole area and possibly more completely soaked.

 

[Nathan]

Huh. Holy shit. Amazing, now that is what I call detail! ^.^

(Suiton: Mizu Kamikiri) - Water Release: Rising Water Slicer
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: After performing the Tiger hand seal the user creates a fast jet of water running through the ground that is powerful enough to slice through solid rock.

Perform the tiger seal, then send your suiton chakra into the ground, creating a fast jet of water that you will send towards me.

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Well from looking at the picture of it on google(I like looking to see what the jutsus I'm being taught look like) it seems that the jutsu plows through the ground slicing up the earth and shooting those pieces up as it travels towards the opponent, so I would say one advantage would be that not only would your opponent have to worry about the incoming water jutsu but also chunks of earth that it is shooting up as it comes towards them.
  
• 2. To use the jutsu you need to perform the tiger jutsu which is usually the main seal for either shadow clones and fire based jutsus, so when you are about to perform the jutsu you will most likely end up confusing your opponent on what jutsu you are about to release.
  
• 3. N/A

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Like above, after looking at the picture on google it seems the jutsu only travels across the ground and in a straight line, so it would seem that it is a very easy jutsu to dodge. :\
  
• 2. N/A
  
• 3. N/A
  
  I can't really think of any other disadvantages other than it is an easy jutsu to dodge, sorry.
  

How you would use it in battle: Oh now I have to give up my secret cool combination with this jutsu. D: Well before I even use this jutsu I would have already made 2 shadow clones in my previous turn. Then at the begining of my next turn I would have one clone put my opponent under a binding genjutsu, then I my self would use the water jutsu while at the same time my other clone(the one who has yet to attack) would use a powerful wind jutsu to blow the rocks that are being shot up by the water towards my opponent( the wind would make the rocks move at the opponent even faster than what they are moving now). So, when my opponent breaks out of the Gen he would not only have a strong jet of water coming at him, but also a ton of big rocks that are being blown at him by a powerful gust of wind at the same time. Leaving him with little options to defend him self from this gen/water/wind/earth combo.

How you would counter it: I would use the first d-rank earth jutsu to move me to either the left or right of the incoming water jet, but of course I would still have to watch out from the rocks as well so I would also use a wind jutsu to blow them back at my opponent then imideately after use another jutsu. He would have to defend from the rocks, the wind, and my other jutsu.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I begin by relaxing my body to allow my chakra to flow through out my entire body. As it begins to flow I make the tiger hand-seal, but at the same exact time as I make the seal I send my chakra into the ground in-front of me. The moment my chakra enters the ground and the seal is made, water...no not just any water but a powerful jet of water capable of slicing through solid rock, erupts from the ground and begins heading on a straight collision path with you. Though as it travels it plows through the ground slicing it up and shooting up chunks of large rocks with it making the move even deadlier as now not only do you have the powerful jet of water screaming downs towards you, but also deadly pieces of earth that when hit by could lead to serious injuries, or possibly death if hit in the right spot(s).


I have a question about this jutsu. It says in the description that it can slice through solid rock. Does that mean it can break through earth based jutsus? If so, then of what rank?

 

[Nathan]

Very good, and cause the doton based jutsu's have chakra in them, I don't believe it's solid rock, so no.

(Suiton: Ja No Kuchi) - Water Release: Water Snakes Mouth
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: N/A
Description: After performing the required hand seals Monkey → Rat → Tiger → Dragon → Horse → Dragon it then allows the user to generate a spinning column of water which will take the form of a snake with a gaping jaw. This snake can twist and follow its targets and swallow them. After it has swallowed them, it turns into a river that carries the enemy away.

Perform the seals, gather your suiton chakra then release the chakra that will transform into spinning column of water which will take the form of a snake with a gaping jaw, send it towards my clone.

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Well this one is a shot in the dark but...since it says that it turns into a river after it swallows the opponent I'm guessing you could use that water source as a catalyst for another water jutsu? Like I said this one is a shot in the dark so please correct me if this is wrong.
  
• 2. The jutsu says it follows its targets meaning that while it is chasing you opponent down(leaving them distracted) you can make preparations to make a sneak attack.
  
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One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. One disadvantage would be to use this jutsu in a small confined space. If you were to use this in a small area with no exit points, then when the jutsu hits its target(s) and turns into a river of water it would just flood the area taking you with it.
  
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How you would use it in battle: I would use it to chase my opponent across the battle field and while it is doing that I would make a sneak attack on my opponent while they are distracted.

How you would counter it: Most people would say they would defend by using an earth based jutsu since it has the "elemental advantage", but I see a big problem with that. Your opponent would probably be expecting you to counter with an earth jutsu so they could easily combine their water snake with lightning making it able to break through your earth jutsu. So me personally, I would use a powerful slicing wind based jutsu. See with this your opponent wont be expecting it and it would easily slice through the water stopping the jutsu, and if your opponent happened to already combined it with lighting the wind would still be able to cancel it out as well.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I couldn't really find any good pictures on google to show me if the jutsu forms from the ground or the mouth, so if I mess up on this part please tell me.

I begin by making six hand-seals while at the same time channeling my chakra throughout my entire body. The moment I make the sixth hand-seal I send the chakra that I was channeling into the ground in front of me, which then causes a spinning column of water to rise up while at the same time beginning to turn into the form of a snake with its mouth open. As it takes the desired form it rushes across the field, slithering around like a real snake would towards your clone. When it reaches your clone it raises its head and snatches up your clone into its mouth swallowing him hole, but the moment it swallows him the snake erupts into a giant river that carries away your clone.


Sorry for the late reply.

 

[Nathan]

All good mate.

(Suiton: Suikō Teppō no Jutsu) - Water Release: Water Shark Gun Technique
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: An advanced version of Water Release: Water Shark Breakthrough in which the user can summon up to three sharks at once rapidly to advance on the target, and can cause severe internal injuries.
Note: Requires a water source

Pretty much perform Water Release: Water Shark Breakthrough and just add enough chakra to create three sharks this time.

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. It can be used as a good defense for on coming fire jutsus.
  
• 2. It can hit multiple targets
  
• 3. They are released fairly quickly so avoiding them at such a short range should prove rather difficult
  

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. No water source equals no jutsu
  
• 2. This is a short range jutsu so you would have to bring your opponent in really close to use. This could be a bad thing if you are going against someone who is adept in fighting at short range. You would just be setting your self up for a beating instead of the other way around, so it's best to know who you are going up against before using this move.
  
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How you would use it in battle: I would use it mainly as a surprise attack kind of jutsu. I would first have a clone of mine distract my opponent then while my target's focus is off of me I will create the 3 sharks and attack him. I would make sure he is within range first though, so when this jutsu is released and his focus is off of me he wouldn't be able to counter this attack in time.

How you would counter it:Well this jutsu can only be used at short range so if it were to be used against me I would quickly move to mid range to avoid it if I can. I could also use an earth defense jutsu to block it if I don't have enough time to avoid it by moving to mid range. I could also find a way to get rid of the water source to stop the attack when it is in process of being formed.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I start out by focusing on my chakra and sending it into the water that is near me. As I send the chakra into the water I begin to make 3 sections of the water rise up and while I'm making this happen I start to manipulate them by changing the shape of each section of the rising water to where they each look like sharks. As the water continues to rise I continue to change the shape until each one is a full bodied water shark that emerges from the lake, river, pond, whatever you want to call the source of water. Once I have completely changed how they look I have them shoot forwards at a fast speed making possible for it to hit any enemy I want that is within range of my jutsu.

 

[Nathan]

Great.

(Suiton: Funshutsu Mizu Kinko) - Water Release: Gushing Water Imprisonment
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user creates a flow of gushing water under the opponent which traps them in a sphere of water. The user can perform an attack while the opponent is trapped. This jutsu is similar to Water Prison Technique, though the user doesn't need to keep his arm in the sphere of water.
Note: Technique creates its own water source

Gather and send your suiton chakra under me and then manipulate it to turn into water that will trap me in it. (the shape will be a sphere)

This is good simply for the fact it creates it's own water source, so it is possible to use that.

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. By creating its own water source you can use it to perform other water jutsus that require such a source.
• 2. Since it traps the opponent in a sphere of water it will basically render the opponent from using lightning based jutsus as the water would conduct the lightning and cause him to be shocked. Also if I remember correctly this jutsu also causes the opponent to float in the middle of it causing them to lose contact with the ground making them unable to perform most earth based jutsus as well to break them free.
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One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. I don't think there really is any. xD
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How you would use it in battle: I would use it to trap my opponent an use the water that it creates to perform another more powerful water jutsu to finish him/her off. Though even if I fail to trap my opponent but they let the water form I could just use that water to quickly turn into a completely different jutsu, catching them off guard and hopefully taking them out.

How you would counter it: I would use a slicing wind jutsu to break through the sphere causing it to fall apart freeing myself.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I gather up my water chakra throughout my body and then release it into the ground below you where I then turn it into water. As it forms into water it begins to rise up around you in the form of a medium-large sized sphere of water that traps you inside.


Excuse the lack of details on this one. >.>

 

[Nathan]

Good work.

(Suiton: Mizurappa) - Water Release: Water Horn
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: After waving the Dragon → Tiger → Rabbit hand seals, the user creates a big jet of water that is launched from their mouth. This technique works exceptionally well with Lava Release: Quicklime Congealing Technique to help it become like cement.

Perform the seals, then gather your suiton chakra in your mouth and release it as a big jet of water that come from your mouth. Aim towards my clone. The range is nice on this, as well it can be pretty hardy in most cases if used correctly.

 

[-Albel-]

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Well I'm sure since it is basically a pressurized jet of water it could pierce right through your opponent if close enough. I think it could also pierce through a small-medium sized defensive wall.
• 2. It doesn't require a require a water source so it cuts down the time to form the jutsu.
• 3. Having a good range will allow the user to stay at a safe distance from his opponent when using this jutsu.

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Since it comes from the mouth the user is left vulnerable to lightning based attacks as a lightning jutsu could just follow the water right back to the users mouth, enter their body and shock them to death.
• 2. It only shoots straight ahead since it comes from the mouth so it can be easily dodge.
• 3.

How you would use it in battle: I think I would combine it with the previous jutsu I just learned, Gushing Water Imprisonment. With my opponent trapped and unable to move around that much I could simply form the jet of water and have it pierce into the sphere and into my opponent taking him out.

How you would counter it: I would try to dodge it while at the same time use a lightning jutsu to hit the water jet and have the water carry the lightning back to my opponent, shocking him.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I begin channeling chakra into my mouth I make the necessary hand-seals which makes the chakra turn into water. As I finish the hand-seals and the water is formed I open my mouth and release it in the form of a highly pressurized jet of water towards your clone. The water jet reaches your clone with such force that it causes it to rip right through him causing him to poof away.


I'm so slacking tonight, what the heck. I think I have become uber lazy. Kill me! >.>

 

[Nathan]

Someone has gotten lazy with training. ;p

(Suiton: Haran Banshō) - Water Release: Stormy Blockade
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will slam their hands against then ground allowing him/her to summon a massive amount of water from the sky, crushing it into the opponent. If needed, the user can cancel the technique in an instant.
Note: The water needs to be summoned at least 10 meters above the opponent to have any real effect.

Okay gather your suiton chakra and send it above my clone and then slam your hands on the ground to summon a massive amount of water from the sky above my clone. I really like this technique since you are able to cancel the technique in an instant, and also the range is lovely. I actually used it in a neat combo once.

 

[-Albel-]

I know! Just off me right here as I am no longer worthy! T_T Oh yeah, I am so deprived of sleep right now. >.>

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. It's created pretty fast as it needs no seals or a water source, hell it is its own water source which makes it extremely deadly as you can use it to create another water jutsu right after the water has formed above your opponent. Plus there is also the sexy range on this baby. xD
• 2. The water if formed high enough above the opponent can cause some good amount of damage if hit by it, mainly knocking the breath out of them or possibly breaking the neck if used just right since the force of the attack is fairly strong.
• 3. This jutsu is a good way of tricking your opponent into thinking you are going to be using an earth based attack since you have to slam your hand onto the ground. As we all know most jutsus that require you to slam you hand on the ground or any body part for that matter are usually earth based ones, so they wont expect a giant pool of water to come crashing down, or will they? O__O

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. Well as I said above this jutsu can be a good way of tricking ones opponent by making them think you will be using an earth base attack, but that can also back fire. This would most likely cause your opponent to look down at the ground to look for an incoming earth jutsu, but instead of finding one he would most likely spot a shadow forming above him on the ground making him realize that the attack is coming from above.
• 2. If one is using this jutsu to cause damage to their opponent that means they would have to summon it fairly high above them, around 10 meters like it says. This means the jutsu can easily be dodged as it would take a little bit of time for it to reach the target down below.
• 3. N/A

How you would use it in battle: Oh I can see my self using this in so many different ways in battle and some of them I have seen from others. Though I think I would mainly use this jutsu the way I have seen Lili use it by summoning it only a few feet or inches above my opponent. First off, I would put my opponent under some kind of genjutsu that makes him unable to move any part of his body preventing him from making the seals. Doing this I know my opponent will most likely try to use Nagashi to break free since it doesn't require any type of movement to use. Knowing this I would simply summon the water only a few inches to a few feet above him causing the water to only soak him not hurt him, but with him being soaked it would leave him unable to use Nagashi to break free as the water on him would conduct the lightning and shock him. Though the shock could break him free of the genjutsu, but in return it would only hurt him and stun him again making him still unable to move. xD I would then go in for the sexy kill.

How you would counter it: Well if the jutsu is used high enough mainly the required 10 meters then I would be able to see it forming above me as it would cast a shadow down onto the ground where I am standing making me realize it is there. Once I notice it I would simply use an earth or wind jutsu to move me out of the way, or I would use one of those two elements to counter the attack by making the water disperse. I would probably also use a strong fire jutsu to evaporate the in coming water and cause mist/steam to form that will slowly come down onto the field blocking my opponents vision of me, but of course it will do the same to me.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I begin by gathering up my water chakra in my body and then release it into the air 10 meters above your clone where I then slam my hand onto the ground below me. The instant my hands makes contact with the ground the water chakra that I sent above your begins to take the actual form of a giant pool of water. The water itself forms extremely quickly and the moment it forms it begins to descend down to the ground where your clone is standing in the hopes of knocking him down onto the ground while causing a good amount of damage where it could or could not make him poof away.

I believe I did a little better on this one don't you think? My Mojo is starting to come back to me, mwhahaha! Though I don't know if that is a good thing as I hate typing. Oh what to do. xD

 

[Nathan]

Much better. I saw you're a senpai or on trail, good luck!

Good.

(Suiton: Mizugakure no jutsu) - Water Release Hidden Amongst Water Technique
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra and then blend in with a water source to be undetected by the enemy for a short period of time. However Sensory Ninja and Doujutsu users can find the enemy easily within the water source.

Go stand over on top of that water source and manipulate your suiton chakra around your whole body doing this will let you blend into the water undetected for a short period of time. Pretty much explains itself, turn into water and hide yourself, but of course you need to be on top of water for this to actually work in the first place.

 

[-Albel-]

On trial and thanks. I hope I do well. Oh and sorry for the late reply as I kind of got sucked into GTA V and some other things. >.>

One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. With this jutsu allowing you to blend in with the water you can easily perform a surprise attack on your opponent.
• 2. Its a good way to escape from your opponent for a short while and allow you to come up with a new plan on how you should go about fighting him and taking him out.
• 3.

One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):

• 1. You are only able to hide for a short amount of time before the jutsu wears off.
• 2. This jutsu makes you completely vulnerable to lightning based jutsus.
• 3. Must have a certain condition to use this jutsu as in must have a source of water near by and you must be on that source of water for it to work.

How you would use it in battle: If I was going against a non sensory or non doujutsu user in a fight then I would use this jutsu to hide from my opponent, and when he is near me and has let his guard down I would perform a surprise attack finishing him off. Now if I was going against a senor or a doujutsu user then I would first find a way of taking out their vision or sensory ability and then hide myself in the water and do what I said above or try to by my self some time to come up with a new strategy.

How you would counter it: I would most likely use my sharingan in this case to find my hiden opponent by seeing his chakra in the water below. Once I find his chakra I would perform any lightning jutsu at my disposal at the water source he is hiding in and shock him to death.

How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): Spotting the lake over to our left I walk over to it and begin walking towards the middle of the lake. Once I am on the water and at the center I begin channeling my water chakra on the outside of my body and begin to manipulate it to where my body begins to morph or blend into the water below. Doing this makes me vanish from your site completely.

I got a question about this jutsu. Just how long does it keep you hiden in the water? I know it says a short period of time, but just how long is this short period of time? Until the end of your turn, the opponents turn, two turns from now, what?

 

[Nathan]

Good, and good luck! And, yeah I have had the same problem. D:

(Suiton: Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: B
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user performs the snake hand seal and creates a large volume of water from their mouth spilling it toward the ground and lifting them up into the air. The user can also ride the wave, allowing him to travel at high speeds and attacking the enemy. The user can create a small ocean worth of water even in barren conditions and can use the water for additional techniques.


Perform the snake seal, gather your suiton chakra in your mouth, then release it from mouth creating a huge amount of water, that will lift you up into, you can ride the wave, allowing you to travel at high speeds. Really love this technique, cause of the fact that this doesn't require a water source and creates it's own. Over all on of the best B-rank water techniques, around. Imo.