[Suggestion] Start trying to go back the old RP system.

[Scorps]

To be honest, the system isn't the problem. It's the people. As a person who was around back then, this current system is a VAST improvement to the old system. It's world's easier to get ahold of a sensei no matter how many people still insist on complaining about it, things are balanced to the point where RPers can go on relatively equal footing amongst each other, getting bios approved and having a bio test organized are extremely easy, and plenty of other reasons.

So why did many people, myself included, enjoy NB more a few years back? It was the people in the system. Not everyone complained about everything that wasn't completely clear or justified, and trust me, if you think that there are unclear rules, or corruption, or favoritism, anything else unfair now then I know for a fact that you would hate almost every aspect the old system.

Basically, the system is fine; much improved actually. By no stretch of the imagination was the old system better in any way except for, possibly, being simplified in some ways. It's the whining that's the problem. I know that plenty of members must have said this before. But it's true. RP back then was more about screwing around then being... so serious.

And like Daemon said, it can't be done anyway. Not only is there no way that the mods would throw away all of their work that is the result of about three years worth of slow developing to get it to the point where it is now, nor should they, but seeing as a thread was just made speaking out against overpowered members... yeah. The old system brings up the possibility of more corruption, more favoritism, and as a result more members angry at the staff for being unfair.

Wise words from a wise member.

The RP doesn0t have an old way and a new way. The RP was built and is being built every day.

You want the fun of back then? Then stop the winning. As it was said, the problem the current RP is facing isn't the RP itself or the rules and restrictions. Its the members that participate in it right now.

If a member gets permission to get a Nagato bio while another one doesn't, it immediatly gives birth to excessive winning and complaints. If a member gets an F-Rank Cj approved while another one gets one declined its immediate petition and winning.

The part that takes away the fun of the RP is all the winning, complaining, arguing, flaming, hating, etc. The DRAMA!

If people want a better RP work for it. Don't complain about the sytem when the system isn't to blame

 

[ReXii]

Wise words from a wise member.

The RP doesn0t have an old way and a new way. The RP was built and is being built every day.

You want the fun of back then? Then stop the winning. As it was said, the problem the current RP is facing isn't the RP itself or the rules and restrictions. Its the members that participate in it right now.

If a member gets permission to get a Nagato bio while another one doesn't, it immediatly gives birth to excessive winning and complaints. If a member gets an F-Rank Cj approved while another one gets one declined its immediate petition and winning.

The part that takes away the fun of the RP is all the winning, complaining, arguing, flaming, hating, etc. The DRAMA!

If people want a better RP work for it. Don't complain about the sytem when the system isn't to blame

Love the logic bomb scorps...Sy taught you well
But seriously hes right stop bitching i have fights with senior members and its always fun for both people its how you RP its not about throwing OP crap at each other.
Want any proof check my fights with kirabi pervy lili etc.
Have a nice day

 

[Wesobi]

By the old RP system, I mean the one everybody is having nostalgia about. The RP system we have now is moving on forward, when I think it could function moving on backward. I know I wasn't here for it, but so many people actually had fun back then, and just liked it much better than this one. One such problem that could be solved is the strict rules on some stuff that wasn't around (circa. 2009), such as this whole "Broken System" debacle. The whole issue wouldn't be served, but it would've been easier for people to deal with the elements (Ink, Smoke, etc.). One last thing is the RP system was much more active than this new one, and I know the new, new one always could solve this problem, but it's a bigger gamble.

But this is my thoughts, what do you think?

I had no need to read it, considering you haven't even been in this "old system" nor have I. Stop whining, as multiple times has been said before.

 

[The Seven-Scaled boy]

If this means brining transplants and implantation back, I'm soooo in favour...

*imagines a custom bio with rinnegan implanted, orochimaru cells, shodaime cells and kaguya bones implanted*

The marvels of medical ninjutsu...

 

[Passion]

If this means brining transplants and implantation back, I'm soooo in favour...

*imagines a custom bio with rinnegan implanted, orochimaru cells, shodaime cells and kaguya bones implanted*

The marvels of medical ninjutsu...

Same thing crossed my mind too. Why the heck are we trying to RP realistically when we could all be OP?

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Well, I was trying to give off the impression of bitching, so forgive me for that.

 

[Wesobi]

Well, I was trying to give off the impression of bitching, so forgive me for that.

I'm guessing you meant to say wasn't?

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Really, Wesobi?

 

[Zoro..]

The problem itself is the members who go for one shot kills. The system is better if anything from what Ive heard. If you fight fun people you still have a fun time xd

*Sees Cali*
*Runs*
*Hides from Wall o text no jutsu*

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

The problem itself is the members who go for one shot kills. The system is better if anything from what Ive heard. If you fight fun people you still have a fun time xd

*Sees Cali*
*Runs*
*Hides from Wall o text no jutsu*

You're not fun to fight...

Cali, Where? I just see Roku...

 

[RokuNR]

Normally, I would bring up a wallie of my own for this situation, but I won't even bother as Riku and Scorps have adequately (and briefly) covered the issue. I will say that you should forget your emphasis on "going back to the RP system of the old days" because today's RP system is much more elaborate and overall better than the RP system from the old days. The system is not the problem (only once has the RP system actually been the problem, and that is when it changed its foundation...older members will remember the mid 2009 era. That was promptly fixed, however. I will not go into further detail about that time). A lot of members really need to stop whining about the system and crying over insignificant matters (and as I've said before, a lot of RPers today are being spoiled). If you really want to go back to the "old" system, say goodbye to every special bio available (aside from 3 Tomoe Sharingans, Kaguya, and canon clans). That means no Custom Clans, no Minato Bios, no Madara Bios, no Custom MS, no Pain bios, no Gates, ect. Oh yeah, and did I mention only 20 custom jutsu including CE jutsus (and you could only have 1 CE...and only about 4 people at the time actually had a CE). That isn't even factoring in the ORIGINAL 3 basic element limit per each member.

You know where I'm going with this...

It would also help if people started thinking of RP as a narrative (immerse yourselves in the NarutoBase world) in order to better have fun. Think less about winning and more about making things realistic to the setting and entertaining. Wars are nice, but is that really the best you can do? There were factional alliances, group invasions, member-driven wars (wars that were much more interesting than the current Ninja World wars and didn't end in flaming/arguing), member-driven custom factions, innovative training methods, and RP journeys.

If this means brining transplants and implantation back, I'm soooo in favour...

*imagines a custom bio with rinnegan implanted, orochimaru cells, shodaime cells and kaguya bones implanted*

The marvels of medical ninjutsu...

This is also one of the problems with the RP today :|

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Well, I didn't explain enough about this, or I just had a lack of info.

So, what I want to say now is, why don't we keep the incremental changes and the milestones that was created now, and try to re-create the RP system of yesteryear? It won't be the complete RP system that is supposedly worse than I thought and the best of this monumental system now, but it would get rid of the lesser lackadaisical features.

 

[Bhil]

Normally, I would bring up a wallie of my own for this situation, but I won't even bother as Riku and Scorps have adequately (and briefly) covered the issue. I will say that you should forget your emphasis on "going back to the RP system of the old days" because today's RP system is much more elaborate and overall better than the RP system from the old days. The system is not the problem (only once has the RP system actually been the problem, and that is when it changed its foundation...older members will remember the mid 2009 era. That was promptly fixed, however. I will not go into further detail about that time). A lot of members really need to stop whining about the system and crying over insignificant matters (and as I've said before, a lot of RPers today are being spoiled). If you really want to go back to the "old" system, say goodbye to every special bio available (aside from 3 Tomoe Sharingans, Kaguya, and canon clans). That means no Custom Clans, no Minato Bios, no Madara Bios, no Custom MS, no Pain bios, no Gates, ect. Oh yeah, and did I mention only 20 custom jutsu including CE jutsus (and you could only have 1 CE...and only about 4 people at the time actually had a CE). That isn't even factoring in the ORIGINAL 3 basic element limit per each member.

You know where I'm going with this...

It would also help if people started thinking of RP as a narrative (immerse yourselves in the NarutoBase world) in order to better have fun. Think less about winning and more about making things realistic to the setting and entertaining. Wars are nice, but is that really the best you can do? There were factional alliances, group invasions, member-driven wars (wars that were much more interesting than the current Ninja World wars and didn't end in flaming/arguing), member-driven custom factions, innovative training methods, and RP journeys.



This is also one of the problems with the RP today :|

I would love if that happened.

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Normally, I would bring up a wallie of my own for this situation, but I won't even bother as Riku and Scorps have adequately (and briefly) covered the issue. I will say that you should forget your emphasis on "going back to the RP system of the old days" because today's RP system is much more elaborate and overall better than the RP system from the old days. The system is not the problem (only once has the RP system actually been the problem, and that is when it changed its foundation...older members will remember the mid 2009 era. That was promptly fixed, however. I will not go into further detail about that time). A lot of members really need to stop whining about the system and crying over insignificant matters (and as I've said before, a lot of RPers today are being spoiled). If you really want to go back to the "old" system, say goodbye to every special bio available (aside from 3 Tomoe Sharingans, Kaguya, and canon clans). That means no Custom Clans, no Minato Bios, no Madara Bios, no Custom MS, no Pain bios, no Gates, ect. Oh yeah, and did I mention only 20 custom jutsu including CE jutsus (and you could only have 1 CE...and only about 4 people at the time actually had a CE). That isn't even factoring in the ORIGINAL 3 basic element limit per each member.

You know where I'm going with this...

It would also help if people started thinking of RP as a narrative (immerse yourselves in the NarutoBase world) in order to better have fun. Think less about winning and more about making things realistic to the setting and entertaining. Wars are nice, but is that really the best you can do? There were factional alliances, group invasions, member-driven wars (wars that were much more interesting than the current Ninja World wars and didn't end in flaming/arguing), member-driven custom factions, innovative training methods, and RP journeys.



This is also one of the problems with the RP today :|

I would love if that happened.

Forgive me for not reading your wall of text edit, but haven't we did a succession of good ninja wars that was called the "Social Group Series"? The only reason the Social Group Wars were stopped because of the anus load of groups that just came that were anti-SG wars. (EX. Makaosu)

 

[Josh]

I see the new rpers as the ones who want to go back to a system that they had nothing to do with :|

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

I see the new rpers as the ones who want to go back to a system that they had nothing to do with :|

...Hypocrite?
I would gladly stay in this RP system set, but my wanting would be trying to stay in the old RP system that was praised by few.

 

[Nikohru]

Reads 2 pages
:| :| :|
Still doesn't know what RP means​

 

[Josh]

...Hypocrite?
I would gladly stay in this RP system set, but my wanting would be trying to stay in the old RP system that was praised by few.

You're calling me a hypocrite? Do you even know what that word means?

You're the one promoting changing back to the old ways, not me. As Wesobi pointed out, not even he was a part of the old way, much less myself. I'm not advocating change of any kind so I fail to see your usage of the word hypocrite and it's relevance to my post. o^o

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

You're calling me a hypocrite? Do you even know what that word means?

You're the one promoting changing back to the old ways, not me. As Wesobi pointed out, not even he was a part of the old way, much less myself. I'm not advocating change of any kind so I fail to see your usage of the word hypocrite and it's relevance to my post. o^o

It was a joke to the whole "thing" on new users, when you're new too, well new.


Anyway, I think I got my point across and it was a denied point, so I'm done. U_U

 

[Riku..]

Well, I didn't explain enough about this, or I just had a lack of info.

So, what I want to say now is, why don't we keep the incremental changes and the milestones that was created now, and try to re-create the RP system of yesteryear? It won't be the complete RP system that is supposedly worse than I thought and the best of this monumental system now, but it would get rid of the lesser lackadaisical features.

See, the thing is, this idea just doesn't make sense. The old system and the new system can't co-exist, because the new system is simply an improved version of the old system. There's no correlation between the two.

Tell me, what part of the old system could be brought back today and exist logically? If we keep everything in the new system, then there's nothing to bring back from the old system because everything is still there, just an improved version. You're being far too vague with the removing "less lackadaisical features" part. I don't really understand what you're referring to here. Tone down the restrictions on bios? Because having a few dozen Nagato bios will surely improve the RP a lot, right? Be more lenient with custom jutsu? I mean I guess if you're into one-hit KOs. How can you have an update of something but still retain the same features of the original? Isn't the complete purpose of an update to fix what's broken? And if after updating something you still attempt to hold on to the original, then you've completely contradicted your own intentions and ultimately defeating the purpose of your efforts? That's basically what this suggestion would do. Everything was updated for a reason:

People were tired of seeing hundreds of powerful abilities in one bio, so restrictions were made on kekkei genkais and special abilities.

People did not believe that custom techniques and elements were being judged fairly, so unbiased mods were implemented to attempt to make things fair.

Trying to manage to apply for a bio test involved most people spending time on a ridiculous chain of VMs to multiple mods before getting a tester, so a new section was made for battle tests and a thread for people to apply.

Given these and other aspects of the system that have been improved, I reiterate, this current system is fine. It's the mindset of many current members that poses a problem. Someone's bio gets approved before another person's even though they posted it first and everyone yells favoritism. A mod's custom technique gets approved and a regular member's gets declined and everyone thinks it's corruption. If this system is kept, then half the base is angry that they can't become Oped. If the old system goes through, then the same people who were angry about not being powerful before will become annoyed that other newer members became stronger than them. It's like everyone's trying to unravel some sort of conspiracy theory. ~_~