study finds gay parents most likely not as good as once thought

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"In a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark Regnerus of the University of Texas at Austin has overturned the conventional academic wisdom that such children suffer no disadvantages when compared to children raised by their married mother and father"


"There are eight outcome variables where differences between the children of homosexual parents and married parents were not only present, and favorable to the married parents, but where these findings were statistically significant for both children of lesbian mothers and "gay" fathers and both with and without controls. While all the findings in the study are important, these are the strongest possible ones--virtually irrefutable. Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
Have lower educational attainment
Report less safety and security in their family of origin
Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
Are more likely to suffer from depression
Have been arrested more often
If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female"


"The high mathematical standard of "statistical significance" was more difficult to reach for the children of "gay fathers" in this study because there were fewer of them. The following, however, are some additional areas in which the children of lesbian mothers (who represented 71% of all the children with homosexual parents in this study) differed from the IBF children, in ways that were statistically significant in both a direct comparison and with controls. Children of lesbian mothers:

Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have *** against their will
Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
Use marijuana more frequently
Smoke more frequently
Watch TV for long periods more frequently
Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense

"At one time, defenders of homosexual parents not only argued that their children do fine on psychological and developmental measures, but they also said that children of homosexuals "are no more likely to be gay" than children of heterosexuals. That claim will be impossible to maintain in light of this study. It found that children of homosexual fathers are nearly 3 times as likely, and children of lesbian mothers are nearly 4 times as likely, to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual. Children of lesbian mothers are 75% more likely, and children of homosexual fathers are 3 times more likely, to be currently in a same-*** romantic relationship."


While far from a perfect study as the homosexual sample size is small, I still think the argument that homosexuality isn't hurting anyone take a hit with these findings.

If there is a risk to hurting the children... what separates this from incest?
 

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Single parent families are probably more likely in these situations as well. Single parent families is bad as incest confirmed.
 

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Single parent families are probably more likely in these situations as well. Single parent families is bad as incest confirmed.

As far as legality goes. Whats the argument against incest?
 

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That's nice.


I have no idea why when it comes to legal reasons.

the only argument against it now that you've legalized gay marriage is that it poses a threat to the health of potential children(which is irresponsible). Well it's just as irresponsible to to raise children in these situations or in the extreme poverty of single parent-hood
 

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Well I don't support homosexuality but studies change all the time. Weather it's change in time, context or the person(s) doing the studying. Can't say I'm surprised about this man's outcome but I won't bash any party except the abandoning jackasses who create single working mothers & fathers (more often than you think). Other SWPs are usually from death or disability and those stories are depressing as hell.
 

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Lol at these threads. Seriously man you're so concerned about wedging these divides between yourself and people that are different than you that you depend on fear and biased research to control your perspective. You should challenge yourself to learn from actual firsthand experience: Meet gay people/couples and hang out with them first before letting someone else speak on your behalf. You'll probably be surprised by how much your opinion would change and mature.
 
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You can't help some situations - we don't live in perfect society.
 

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Another biased research done by some peanut-brained conservatives.

Have you ever thought of the possibility that children raised by same-*** parents had trouble dealing with the judgment stemming from their environment? And that the rampant human stupidity in every society is the reason of their confusion and identity crisis. Not their gay parents but the outside influences of brain dead simpletons not capable of evolving mentally. Like OP.
 

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Another biased research done by some peanut-brained conservatives.

Have you ever thought of the possibility that children raised by same-*** parents had trouble dealing with the judgment stemming from their environment? And that the rampant human stupidity in every society is the reason of their confusion and identity crisis. Not their gay parents but the outside influences of brain dead simpletons not capable of evolving mentally. Like OP.

You have no evidence to substantiate your claim. Come back with some evidence and you'll be taken seriously

But I bet you'd blindly believe every study that suggests that gay parents are just as good. ****ing sheep. Question my data while bringing none of your own.... OH wait ill shit on that too

"Marks also points out that only four of the 59 studies cited by the APA even met the APA's own standards by "provid[ing] evidence of statistical power."

"[N]ot one of the 59 studies referenced in the 2005 APA Brief compares a large, random, representative sample of lesbian or gay parents and their children with a large, random, representative sample of married parents and their children."

There has never been a study done of homosexual parents that was correct, yet you blindly believe that shit

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Another biased research done by some peanut-brained conservatives.

Have you ever thought of the possibility that children raised by same-*** parents had trouble dealing with the judgment stemming from their environment? And that the rampant human stupidity in every society is the reason of their confusion and identity crisis. Not their gay parents but the outside influences of brain dead simpletons not capable of evolving mentally. Like OP.

This is exactly what I was thinking as well. An opressed group of people can never be represented or "calculated" correctly when there are so many external factors effecting them in such a negative way.

The study was done in Texas, which is openly oppressive towards gays and keeps them down in society, legal equality, employment, etc. How are they to be fairly judged when those conditions do not provide them the same opportunity as heterosexual couples? They're already forced to lose before the study began lol. Now if this study was done in California it'd be a much more successful story.

This study is the same type of argument that you always hear from racists saying black people are statistically worse than whites. No duh black people would look worse statistically because they were oppressed for hundreds of years, treated terribly, and pushed into the slums where they're still working hard to get out. The negative impact from treatment like that, the stress that results from it, and the continuing prejudices that aim to maintain that opression will continue to hurt their "statistics" for centuries.
 

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Lol at these threads. Seriously man you're so concerned about wedging these divides between yourself and people that are different than you that you depend on fear and biased research to control your perspective. You should challenge yourself to learn from actual firsthand experience: Meet gay people/couples and hang out with them first before letting someone else speak on your behalf. You'll probably be surprised by how much your opinion would change and mature.

My opinion on homosexuality being against a persons biological design will never change. As for hanging out with them, we have nothing in common for the most part. I don't really like the personalities of most straight women, but I tolerate them because they're hot.
 

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You have no evidence to substantiate your claim. Come back with some evidence and you'll be taken seriously

Look up the psychology research on stress levels of African-Americans vs other races. It's been found that African-Americans have the highest stress levels and it is believed it is due their poor treatment by society (which we all know is the most unfair treatment, don't deny it). The same can easily be said about gays vs heterosexuals. Gays have to face more stress: social prejudice, government inequality, unequal employment, etc. How could you possibly say that those stressors would not harm them in some way?
 
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My opinion on homosexuality being against a persons biological design will never change. As for hanging out with them, we have nothing in common for the most part. I don't really like the personalities of most straight women, but I tolerate them because they're hot.

All excuses bro. You speak against them in this thread but you refuse to get know them. Thus you clearly have no understanding or proper perspective to talk about them.
 
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My opinion on homosexuality being against a persons biological design will never change. As for hanging out with them, we have nothing in common for the most part. I don't really like the personalities of most straight women, but I tolerate them because they're hot.


Bro not every Gay person is woman-like.
There are probably Gays out-shining you in 'manly' behavior and attitude.

As for the OP, I'm not against Gay Marriage and having a Children but of course the lack of a mother cannot be filled.. So
 

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I've edited post #14.

As for the black stress level.

the number one cause of stress is financial worries


was race has the highest poverty level? blacks.
 
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