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To everyone reading:

I in no way/shape/form intended to directly offend the Senseis/Sempais. I understand that they are people with lives too and aren't ment to train 24/7. I am only simply trying to provide a suggestion that may help ease their schedules. I understand there are flaws to this suggestion, which is why I created the thread to have a discussion and try to find a solution, which I've seen some members post here already. I simply wish to provide ideas to help improve the RP system. Not demand them. Sorry for any misunderstanding
 

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I agree U_U

Drey you posted your post twice:|

To be honest I don't see how people can't find training:|
I started RP in Jan. and I have all Basic Five Mastered, as well as being trained in Genjutsu|Kenjutsu|Ninjutsu|Taijutsu|Medical.
You just have to search which isn't quite hard.
I would suggest you ask Senpais to teach you basic five, and have Senseis do the remainders as Senpai's aren't allowed to teach it.
Though I disagree with what dupa proposes but i would like to say one thing..just because u got lucky and got the training doesnt mean that others are lucky and got the same..some ppl have to wait 6-8 months before they get any training...though what dupa said i dont agree simply because the sensei and senpais worked hard o get this position and we should respect it..and of course they have their own personal life...
 
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I've been requesting ninjutsu training since May of last year, up to this day, training for one week, sensei disappeared. I don't complain about it because I know the feeling of being a teacher, maybe simply because everyone has lives, and not just a computer screen. :|
whats the point of complaining .....there should be clear cut strategy for teaching by now ...they know senseis have real life and their own social network life so whats the point if they cant have more sensei in nb or smaller than a sensei like the guy said above...
 

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There's so many people who have atleast mastered 1 element but have very broken english and barely any knowledge of how to properly use the jutsus.. I completely disagree with this suggestion.
 

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Let's make an approximation that about 45/50-60% of the RP system have at least one element mastered. Not because one masters an element generally means he is fit to teach it. Your suggestion is like saying everyone with an element mastered should be a senpai. Some members are lucky, they get training in the first month they've joined, and mastered the element that same month as well. That member would be nothing but an inexperienced member with element mastery status, and thus would not be fit to teach. Regardless what rank he can go up to, why send him out to teach others?
The whole problem is that you newer members can't wait. I've joined around this time last year, and yet I don't have everything mastered. Some have joined late last year in October etc. and already have the basic five. Stop comparing to older members, NB didn't have such a large population back in the day, there were less members who RP, less members interested. Yet, you still have members from back in 2009, 2010 who still haven't mastered the basic 5, if yes, then maybe not ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu.
It's the same cycle everyday, everyone gets up and wants to be a senpai. The day they become one, their entire style changes because they simply can't handle the pressure. Not all sensei or senpai are active in teaching, so what? I've been a senpai for about 4 months now, the first day with the title was all fun, accepting students and feeling like I have made an accomplishment. Two weeks later, wallies of training requests in vm, pm, email and msn. Deal with it, I teach who I can. Taking the minimum of 20 students, and at one point I took a maximum of 42 at one time. Everyone has RL issues, some has a heavier burden than others. It isn't easy logging into NB each weekday, knowing a limit of 5 hours until you need to study, etc. That 5 hours I get, I have to teach. I'm not legally bound to teach, I'm not held by a contract, I'm not being payed, but still, I log on, I teach, I do what I do. And yet, there's no difference in results "Train me plz plz plz plz. Please Drizzy senpai plz." Everyday, approximately 10-20 training requests are sent to my profile. How do I deal with it? "Sorry, currently full", if they're generous enough they understand, if not, they continue, "plz plz plz plz". Things and time change, I'm not online during weekdays any at all or only for an hour now, I make up for it my training extra on weekdays. Using an example, on Friday of last week, I decided I'm going to relax, watch One Piece, the end result, "Senpai, reply to training plz plz plz". I'm tired of the "plz", I'm tired of the "train me". Yet, I endure it, I accept who I can, and tell whoever I'm unable to teach that I'm full.
There are too much impatient people these days. I'm talking on behalf of all sensei and senpai here. It simply annoys me when there are silly suggestions for more sensei/senpai as if we're not doing what we can.
Amen Drizzy well said U_U and as for my opinion its not a good idea look at me i have been training in 1 element and took me 3 months just to get S-rank.People have to learn to be paitence and wait for the Sensai/Sempai to be free.I honestly think i would be more active than most Sempai but i still would not train if i dont fell like it.
 

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I approve of this idea and you only teach it half-way through C-rank so i don´t see why not.
Though i would like for the student training student to have atleast 3 elements mastered as that would imply experience and must go through some test to qualify to teach other students to test their knowledge of that element.
I agree with this to some extent and I do understand somewhat of Equilibrium.. is coming from.

However, I think it should be necessary to placed more teachers of the Sensei and Senpai Status to at least teach of the Elemental Ninjutsu to calm the RP system. Yeah, it want be just anyone teaching, but a selected few whom have experience or who mastered that Elemental Ninjutsu to a point of teaching. These individuals were act as teacher such the Chuunin in Naruto.

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Creating a Academy Training Thread for upcoming or untrained Rp'ers to at least calm and keep active RP. It would consist of training the basics such as chakra control, Ninja Arts, and ect. So when training with Sensei/Senpai, they already have basic training. That's if you want to make the RP seem real.

Also, I understand that you would need approval for Fuuinjutsu Training, but I think you should also know the basic of Fuuinjutsu before you would actual go to a Sensei for more detail. Example:

Sealing Techniques on various scrolls. You would have to place the written seal on the scroll before you can utilize it. These is the only one I see that have a possibility of being a basic skill you would have to learn.
 
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Well I'd suggest perhaps having a person who mastered atleast 2 er 3 elements and passes a battle test to be a quasi Senpai who can only teach you up to C or B rank perhaps.
 

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I agree U_U

Drey you posted your post twice:|

To be honest I don't see how people can't find training:|
I started RP in Jan. and I have all Basic Five Mastered, as well as being trained in Genjutsu|Kenjutsu|Ninjutsu|Taijutsu|Medical.
You just have to search which isn't quite hard.
I would suggest you ask Senpais to teach you basic five, and have Senseis do the remainders as Senpai's aren't allowed to teach it.
I would kill for medical training. :rolleyes: Consider yourself lucky.
 
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Your basically suggesting the same thing just addinf the battle test part -.-
Well the orginal idea was that any person who has an element mastered could train another person this could be a person who has mastered has little has a single element while I said 2 or 3 :|

Also the battle test is a big up evolution
 

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Hmmm, the idea does sound good, but what IF in order to teach other students, the ones who have mastered that element have to take a test from Senseis....?
That´s what i´m saying.
Have a test and have atleast 3 senseis that approve of you, if so then you know you´re fit to teach other students.
Only 1 element you´re allowed to teach and only up to C-rank.
Some may think it´s gonna take away from the senseis/sempais hard work, it barely takes away anything but you guys already have way too much to do so don´t complain about it.
Besides, stop talking about how it were, it is because nb has more members and rper´s that you should take or atleast consider a different approach.
Look, not that i care so much, i already have teachers in 5 elements + nin,gen but it´s only for the ones who have more trouble finding someone to teach them.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with this. It's not like all the people who are considered qualified to train even really do anything. No disrespect but let's be honest, some don't even read what the students post so it's not like they're really learning anything anyway. I'm not saying all sensei/senpai do this but honestly there are some and you all know it.

I like the restriction only maybe being able to finish C rank then find a higher up to finish your training. Students could then get some training which would ease the spamming and complaining, and they could start battling and trying to get better.

I think a too elaborate test is not good though. Then students will just be backed up in line for the test. Especially since only certain people are being assigned tests atm. I think you should just link your training completion and you're certified.
 

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hey senseis if u read this thread plz do something about this idea make it more usable for us ...no disrespect for any senseis frankly sayin
 
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I agree with this to some extent and I do understand somewhat of Equilibrium.. is coming from.

However, I think it should be necessary to placed more teachers of the Sensei and Senpai Status to at least teach of the Elemental Ninjutsu to calm the RP system. Yeah, it want be just anyone teaching, but a selected few whom have experience or who mastered that Elemental Ninjutsu to a point of teaching. These individuals were act as teacher such the Chuunin in Naruto.

For more detail: (Summary)

Creating a Academy Training Thread for upcoming or untrained Rp'ers to at least calm and keep active RP. It would consist of training the basics such as chakra control, Ninja Arts, and ect. So when training with Sensei/Senpai, they already have basic training. That's if you want to make the RP seem real.

Also, I understand that you would need approval for Fuuinjutsu Training, but I think you should also know the basic of Fuuinjutsu before you would actual go to a Sensei for more detail. Example:

Sealing Techniques on various scrolls. You would have to place the written seal on the scroll before you can utilize it. These is the only one I see that have a possibility of being a basic skill you would have to learn.
This guys idea is marvelous +rep
 

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I said what i had to say but i don´t agree with any noob teaching an element just cuz they mastered one.

There are some who don´t even know the unspoken universal rule of rp that says you can indeed interupt a persons second and third thereby making them not have time to use it or want to use it in that situation, making their second and thrid technique having never happened and not needed to be defended against, yeah to you noobs reading this, take a good look, this is how you rp but i´m getting off topic.
 

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Though I disagree with what dupa proposes but i would like to say one thing..just because u got lucky and got the training doesnt mean that others are lucky and got the same..some ppl have to wait 6-8 months before they get any training...though what dupa said i dont agree simply because the sensei and senpais worked hard o get this position and we should respect it..and of course they have their own personal life...
How am I lucky? U_U
A few friends started RP at the same time I did, and have about the same amount of things mastered.

I would kill for medical training. :rolleyes: Consider yourself lucky.
Don't kill me D:


On Topic: All in all this idea is pointless as we have enough Senseis, and Senpais.
If people are impatient, and get trained wrong, then they will regret it in the future.
 

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On Topic: All in all this idea is pointless as we have enough Senseis, and Senpais.
If people are impatient, and get trained wrong, then they will regret it in the future.
Yes my idea alone is pointless but have you read how others improved on it? Thats the point of this thread. Not to say my idea is law but to take an idea and improve on it so that it benefits everyone
 
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