[Discussion] Strongest to weakest.

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I believe Zoro and Luffy are stronger than hancock. Her feats don't mean that much anymore :coffee:
Hancock has some serious hype and portrayal though.
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Its possible he was referring to her Haoshoku Haki.

For this reason I put Hancock above Zoro for now. She also has major hax.
 

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Hancock has some serious hype and portrayal though.
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Its possible he was referring to her Haoshoku Haki.

For this reason I put Hancock above Zoro for now. She also has major hax.
He was comparing their royality(the official translation explains it better) since Hancock is a princess in Amazon Lily when Doflamingo was the King in Dressrosa. It had nothing to do with power level
 

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He was comparing their royality(the official translation explains it better) since Hancock is a princess in Amazon Lily when Doflamingo was the King in Dressrosa. It had nothing to do with power level
Oh ok. But in a way he is hyping her, by putting her above Mingo in terms of ruling over people (which could be a subliminal message cause thats what Conquerors haki is about), what did the official viz say?
 

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Oh ok. But in a way he is hyping her, by putting her above Mingo in terms of ruling over people (which could be a subliminal message cause thats what Conquerors haki is about), what did the official viz say?
"Don't take your eyes off of Doflamingo. He is the current King of Dressrosa, but different from the Princess of Kuja".

Kuzan always had a thing with women anyway, so i don't really trust his women comparisons lol.
 

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He has CoA? Lol.

What CoA feats does Hancock have? We only saw her hit pre-TS Smoker which barely did anything to him.
Her kick cut clean through a pacifista and destroyed the skull of another with just physical strength alone. if u notice the same pacfistia all 3 m3 attacked post time skip. she was able to destroy them each with one it .

And since when does coa block her mero mero? Where was this stated how does coa help block emotions ? Ur emotions for Hancock is the reason u turn to stone
And why is coa needed to beat someone like zoro? He's not a logia I know it helps negate parcimias like law and his room but boa df is different it comes from feeling etc (even if u c one piece movie I know it's not cannon the crazy chick kept swallowing bitter medicine to make her emotions change and have herself not be affected by boa df so unless u can put ardament on something intangible as feelings I fail to c how having ardament haki helps ...) I honestly think the conquers if anything would help against someone like boa abilities


Also zoro (while stated by oda to b haki adarmat specialist) has not displayed amazing haki feats his one feat taking out picas fbh (mind u someone who focuses on not getting hit during any fight as he hides behind his golem ... And stone so why would his fbh be amazing ? its not like he's vergo someone who specializes in haki/close hand combat and is a tank while he fights. Hell picas fbh didn't even change size of his body like vergos)
If they were to fight I place my bet on hancock until we see something impressive from zoro

Both Sanji and zoro have been unimpressive during post timeskip

Zoro hasn't been utilized to show off his awesomeness against a good fighter
And Sanji literally has had to fight either handicapped (injured) or he was just fighting bigger guys (doffy) then any of the m3 can handle alone
 
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"Don't take your eyes off of Doflamingo. He is the current King of Dressrosa, but different from the Princess of Kuja".

Kuzan always had a thing with women anyway, so i don't really trust his women comparisons lol.
Oh ok.

That's not the only thing though, Sengoku has her before.

And she also had one of the stronger Vice Admirals sweating and kneeling before her.
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Also she is one of the few with Haoshoku which is only given to the few elite who are born to stand above others.
 

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Her kick cut clean through a pacifista and destroyed the skull of another with just physical strength alone. if u notice the same pacfistia all 3 m3 attacked post time skip. she was able to destroy them each with one it .

And since when does coa block her mero mero? Where was this stated how does coa help block emotions ? Ur emotions for Hancock is the reason u turn to stone
And why is coa needed to beat someone like zoro? He's not a logia I know it helps negate parcimias like law and his room but boa df is different it comes from feeling etc (even if u c one piece movie I know it's not cannon the crazy chick kept swallowing bitter medicine to make her emotions change and have herself not be affected by boa df so unless u can put ardament on something intangible as feelings I fail to c how having ardament haki helps ...) I honestly think the conquers if anything would help against someone like boa abilities


Also zoro (while stated by oda to b haki adarmat specialist) has not displayed amazing haki feats his one feat taking out picas fbh (mind u someone who focuses on not getting hit during any fight as he hides behind his golem ... And stone so why would his fbh be amazing ? its not like he's vergo someone who specializes in haki/close hand combat and is a tank while he fights. Hell picas fbh didn't even change size of his body like vergos)
If they were to fight I place my bet on hancock until we see something impressive from zoro

Both Sanji and zoro have been unimpressive during post timeskip

Zoro hasn't been utilized to show off his awesomeness against a good fighter
And Sanji literally has had to fight either handicapped (injured) or he was just fighting bigger guys (doffy) then any of the m3 can handle alone
Didn't I just say that she kicked Smoker and it failed to harm him (no serious injuries)? This was pre-TS Smoker. It doesn't matter what she can do to a pacifista since the M3 can destroy them casually.

CoA can be used to byass DF abilities. For argument sake, let's just go with what you're saying. It's already been established that you can bypass her DF abilities through pain. If her CoA isn't strong, what chances does she have to protect herself from Zoro's attacks? It can be used offensively or defensively. We've seen Vergo use it in a defensive manner before:
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No, both Zoro and Sanji have been impressive over the TS. It's just that Oda is either scared of placing Zoro in scenarios where he'll get outclassed easily or he's just waiting for the perfect opportunity to push him to the limits. For now, I'll go with the latter but at times it makes me think of the former. Anyways, both Sanji and Zoro have been impressive. Neither Zoro or Sanji have shown fully what they learned over the TS.

Hancock has more portrayal than feats. We have to see her go all out but her portrayal isn't that amazing to be honest. Unless you show me otherwise.
 
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You know maybe we are underestimating Hancock since she is mostly shown around Luffy and she is always goofing around him, we haven't really seen her fight seriously a lot.

Also Kaido might not be strongest but rather unkillable, as if can be defeated but not killed, that would explain his suicidal tendencies.
 

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When Whitebeard was introduced it said- the strongest man in the world and he was also the only one able to fight on par with Roger, but now they have introduced Kaido who is 'believed' to be the strongest by 'people'. Also is anyone alive/dead is/was ever as strong as roger and just how strong is Rayleigh to swim through calm belt and probably fighting off seakings. So from strongest to weakest where would you put these characters:- Gold roger, Shanks, Whitebeard, Teach, Kaido(optiona,), Akainu, Akoji, Kizaru, Hawk eyes, Hancock, Crocodile, Luffy and Zoro.
Roger
Whitbeard
Shanks
Blackbeard
Aokiji
Akainu
Mihawk
Luffy
Zoro
Crocodile

Left off hancock because she doesn't have much feats or hype, but she's definately strong. No idea how strong Kaido will be except that he's definately going to be able to beat down G4 luffy if he hopes to be a threat.
 

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Roger
Whitbeard
Shanks
Blackbeard
Aokiji
Akainu
Mihawk
Luffy
Zoro
Crocodile

Left off hancock because she doesn't have much feats or hype, but she's definately strong. No idea how strong Kaido will be except that he's definately going to be able to beat down G4 luffy if he hopes to be a threat.
I was thinking that people were underestimating blackbeard, dude already had power to beat Ace without much effort and now that hes got whitebeard's powers+many more df and two years to get used to it, god knows how strong he is.
 

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When Whitebeard was introduced it said- the strongest man in the world and he was also the only one able to fight on par with Roger, but now they have introduced Kaido who is 'believed' to be the strongest by 'people'. Also is anyone alive/dead is/was ever as strong as roger and just how strong is Rayleigh to swim through calm belt and probably fighting off seakings. So from strongest to weakest where would you put these characters:- Gold roger, Shanks, Whitebeard, Teach, Kaido(optiona,), Akainu, Akoji, Kizaru, Hawk eyes, Hancock, Crocodile, Luffy and Zoro.
My opinion is

Roger=Prime WB >= Kaido > Shanks=Mihawk > Old WB >=Akainu > Ao Kiji = Kizaru > Luffy > Zoro > Hancock > Crocodile

No idea where I'd put Teach tbh
 
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Gol D. Roger / Edward Newgate
Shanks / Mihawk
Akainu
Aokiji
Kaido
Marshal D. Teach
Kizaru
Monkey D. Luffy
Boa Hancock
Roronoa Zoro
Crocodile

Notes:
- Kaido, Marshal D. Teach and Crocodile can go higher.
- Kaido's status depends on his strength that is totaly unknown for us.
- Teach is newest Yonko so I am ranking him lowest out of all yonkos, there is no doubt that by the end of series he will be on Roger and WB's level.
- Crocodile could be higher, depending on how stronger he become. With good haki and if he awaken his DF he could be higher.
 
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