[Discussion] Strongest Shinigami is back LOL

[minato93]

Yea Byakuya been back you just now knowing that...o you talking bout the second strongest ok...an kenpachi is a name givin to thoes who loves to fight the most an the ones who can take the most cuts an never go down..it does not mean you are the strongest.

Don't use the anime version of what kenpachi means use what they say in the manga.

Your argument is kinda of right, but your conclusion is so wrong. Come bro, Byakuya stronger than Kenpachi? NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!

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Ichigo will be the strongest.
Kenpachi second strongest; when he masters his Zan and kendo, he'll rival or eventually surpass Old Man Yama.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

haha, you haven't changed, still speaking nonsense =D

Yea I was joking when I said that we all know the strongest person is ether ichigo,juha,or in zero squad

 

[KingHashirama]

Yamamoto is older than Unohana. Yamamoto was captain commander before creation of 13 squads and Unohana is first generation of Gotei. Feats say otherwise, Yama far outclass Unohana. She herself said that Znt can destroy SS, there is no shinigami that can do same.
It's just a title. In Naruto, Kage is supposed to be strongest in village, but it's quite often that some shinobi be stronger than kage. Also Kenpachi before Zaraki was pretty weak also title "Kenpachi" and Kenpachi being stronger in generation is bullshit, Aizen and Urahara are pretty much strong, but no one of them got that title, Hitsugaya for example is very young (far after Zaraki's generation) but didn't get title Kenpachi.

You wanna talk about feats? feats say Unohana can get yamamoto in her lil bankai before Yamamoto has any chance... So what feats are you spouting about?

"far outclasses Unohana".. oh yea tell that to Kubo, who named her the Strongest Shinigami. Yea it can destroy the place called Soul society. However, unohana vs Kenpachi was such a dangerous battle that it had to be held in a place where there were no bounds.. rofl. Dude unohana is too freaking OP yo.


No Unohana was always the kenpachi... the others were fake.. Hence why Unohana's underling asked Zaraki if he had no inherited the Kenpachi title.. Because before he himself was never "the kenpachi"..

Yea cause none of them never surpassed unohana.. rofl Urahara isn't even on their level rofl.

Also you do realize Hitsugaya is forever a kid? As I said they aren't born i soul society.. how they appear in soul society is determined by how they died in real life.

And also, can you provide the Bolded?

I'm saying that Byakuya is the strongest person an that zaraki is the second person.

An kenpachi don't mean the strongest.

Manga disagrees..

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Oh shall i also show you the reactions the government had just to start kenpachi's training.. I'm sorry but no one has been put on the level of Zaraki besides ichigo when it comes to getting stronger.

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[ToadSageNaruto]

You wanna talk about feats? feats say Unohana can get yamamoto in her lil bankai before Yamamoto has any chance... So what feats are you spouting about?

"far outclasses Unohana".. oh yea tell that to Kubo, who named her the Strongest Shinigami. Yea it can destroy the place called Soul society. However, unohana vs Kenpachi was such a dangerous battle that it had to be held in a place where there were no bounds.. rofl. Dude unohana is too freaking OP yo.


No Unohana was always the kenpachi... the others were fake.. Hence why Unohana's underling asked Zaraki if he had no inherited the Kenpachi title.. Because before he himself was never "the kenpachi"..

Yea cause none of them never surpassed unohana.. rofl Urahara isn't even on their level rofl.

Also you do realize Hitsugaya is forever a kid? As I said they aren't born i soul society.. how they appear in soul society is determined by how they died in real life.

And also, can you provide the Bolded?



Manga disagrees..

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Oh shall i also show you the reactions the government had just to start kenpachi's training.. I'm sorry but no one has been put on the level of Zaraki besides ichigo when it comes to getting stronger.

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so you're saying they don't age in ss? we've seen a young yama and then old man yama. we 've seen kid byakuya as well as young rukia and renji albeit that was the anime, don't remember if filler or not. point is they do age from young to old. just at a slower rate. probably takes half a century to show a physical change and we've only known hitsugaya as long as we've know ichigo which is a few years.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You wanna talk about feats? feats say Unohana can get yamamoto in her lil bankai before Yamamoto has any chance... So what feats are you spouting about?

"far outclasses Unohana".. oh yea tell that to Kubo, who named her the Strongest Shinigami. Yea it can destroy the place called Soul society. However, unohana vs Kenpachi was such a dangerous battle that it had to be held in a place where there were no bounds.. rofl. Dude unohana is too freaking OP yo.


No Unohana was always the kenpachi... the others were fake.. Hence why Unohana's underling asked Zaraki if he had no inherited the Kenpachi title.. Because before he himself was never "the kenpachi"..

Yea cause none of them never surpassed unohana.. rofl Urahara isn't even on their level rofl.

Also you do realize Hitsugaya is forever a kid? As I said they aren't born i soul society.. how they appear in soul society is determined by how they died in real life.

And also, can you provide the Bolded?



Manga disagrees..

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Oh shall i also show you the reactions the government had just to start kenpachi's training.. I'm sorry but no one has been put on the level of Zaraki besides ichigo when it comes to getting stronger.

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Ok I was wrong somewhat as in this link

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it's the name givin to the person who has slain the most enemies an win the most battles..just because he has the title kenpachi don't mean he the strongest thoe.

Don't be surprised when you see that zaraki is not that much stronger than Byakuya is

 

[SoulKiller]

You wanna talk about feats? feats say Unohana can get yamamoto in her lil bankai before Yamamoto has any chance... So what feats are you spouting about?

"far outclasses Unohana".. oh yea tell that to Kubo, who named her the Strongest Shinigami. Yea it can destroy the place called Soul society. However, unohana vs Kenpachi was such a dangerous battle that it had to be held in a place where there were no bounds.. rofl. Dude unohana is too freaking OP yo.


No Unohana was always the kenpachi... the others were fake.. Hence why Unohana's underling asked Zaraki if he had no inherited the Kenpachi title.. Because before he himself was never "the kenpachi"..

Yea cause none of them never surpassed unohana.. rofl Urahara isn't even on their level rofl.

Also you do realize Hitsugaya is forever a kid? As I said they aren't born i soul society.. how they appear in soul society is determined by how they died in real life.

And also, can you provide the Bolded?



Manga disagrees..

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Oh shall i also show you the reactions the government had just to start kenpachi's training.. I'm sorry but no one has been put on the level of Zaraki besides ichigo when it comes to getting stronger.

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Oh my gosh the ignorance is so high in this one, like seriously......

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[Forbidden Tale]

You wanna talk about feats? feats say Unohana can get yamamoto in her lil bankai before Yamamoto has any chance... So what feats are you spouting about?

"far outclasses Unohana".. oh yea tell that to Kubo, who named her the Strongest Shinigami. Yea it can destroy the place called Soul society. However, unohana vs Kenpachi was such a dangerous battle that it had to be held in a place where there were no bounds.. rofl. Dude unohana is too freaking OP yo.


No Unohana was always the kenpachi... the others were fake.. Hence why Unohana's underling asked Zaraki if he had no inherited the Kenpachi title.. Because before he himself was never "the kenpachi"..

Yea cause none of them never surpassed unohana.. rofl Urahara isn't even on their level rofl.

Also you do realize Hitsugaya is forever a kid? As I said they aren't born i soul society.. how they appear in soul society is determined by how they died in real life.

And also, can you provide the Bolded?

Feats say that Unohana don't have chance against 15.000.000 degreces. She don't have ability to past Yamamoto's zanpakuto.

So what? That don't prove that she can destroy SS.

The title is fake? It just prove how useless title is. Again there were much more powerfull shinigami but didn't get the spot.

Oh really, that's why Unohana didn't do anything to Aizen.

People who died in real word forever a kid? Just prove how much you really don't know. Rukia died in Real world man.

Yamamoto was the one who reformed miltary in SS and made 13 squad. Only captain comander have authority to do something like that, so he first become captain comander than made 13 divisions.

 

[The 1 who knows]

Feats say that Unohana don't have chance against 15.000.000 degreces. She don't have ability to past Yamamoto's zanpakuto.

So what? That don't prove that she can destroy SS.

The title is fake? It just prove how useless title is. Again there were much more powerfull shinigami but didn't get the spot.

Oh really, that's why Unohana didn't do anything to Aizen.

People who died in real word forever a kid? Just prove how much you really don't know. Rukia died in Real world man.

Yamamoto was the one who reformed miltary in SS and made 13 squad. Only captain comander have authority to do something like that, so he first become captain comander than made 13 divisions.

the question should be why didnt aizen do anything but flee once unohona appeared?

the question should be why shuusui and ukitake could argue and fight yama ji but never talked back or raised their voices when unohona gave them the snake eye?

remeber the fake juha stood a chance against yama since he pushed him to use all the points of his bankai....what makes you think unohona wouldnt? fremember she has regenerative powers!!!

nwy back to topic........currently zaraki is the strongest shinigami in ss...with or without shikai/bankai. Remember unohona's last words..every fight will be like a boring game to you....i gues she was speaking out of experience....maybe thats why she stopped fighting and focused on meds.

ichigo is no shinigami...he is a hybrid of everything. as zaraki is am guesing ichi is stronger but if he was to get a bankai ( which he will never, infact i think he will just get the basics of his shikai only ) it will be a different story.

 

[The 1 who knows]

Feats say that Unohana don't have chance against 15.000.000 degreces. She don't have ability to past Yamamoto's zanpakuto.

So what? That don't prove that she can destroy SS.

The title is fake? It just prove how useless title is. Again there were much more powerfull shinigami but didn't get the spot.

Oh really, that's why Unohana didn't do anything to Aizen.

People who died in real word forever a kid? Just prove how much you really don't know. Rukia died in Real world man.

Yamamoto was the one who reformed miltary in SS and made 13 squad. Only captain comander have authority to do something like that, so he first become captain comander than made 13 divisions.

the question should be why didnt aizen do anything but flee once unohona appeared?

the question should be why shuusui and ukitake could argue and fight yama ji but never talked back or raised their voices when unohona gave them the snake eye?

remeber the fake juha stood a chance against yama since he pushed him to use all the points of his bankai....what makes you think unohona wouldnt? fremember she has regenerative powers!!!

nwy back to topic........currently zaraki is the strongest shinigami in ss...with or without shikai/bankai. Remember unohona's last words..every fight will be like a boring game to you....i gues she was speaking out of experience....maybe thats why she stopped fighting and focused on meds.

ichigo is no shinigami...he is a hybrid of everything. as zaraki is am guesing ichi is stronger but if he was to get a bankai ( which he will never, infact i think he will just get the basics of his shikai only ) it will be a different story.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. How did he flee? He prepared tactic to beat Yamamoto, he didn't do same to Unohana, it just say that Aizen was more affraid of Yamamoto.
2. Because they was fighting for their own justice, Kyoraku never raised his voice in front of Nanao or Lisa, but does that mean that they are top tier? I don't remember even rememeber that scenes, so i will be thankfull if you remind me.
3. He didn't stood a chance against Yamamoto, he just escape death for three chapters (of 60 pages we get around only 10 was fight other was their "useless" talking), he dind't even scratch Yamamoto in that fight.

 

[The 1 who knows]

go back n rewatch your bleach, there are scenes where they are argiung then she gives them the eye then they shush.

so why didnt he 1 shot her just like he did with hitsuguya? why did he turn around and bounce off?

I gues you are trying to say fake juha was weak? yet he escaped death not once, not twice but rather thrice from an all out yama and mind yu he didnt have regenerative powers like yachiru...

 

[sravan]

unohana is definitely stronger but i dont think she can defeat these
yamamoto
ichigo
aizen
urahara

iam just confused with the recent chapter zaraki was firstly introduced as kenpachi zaraki by ikkaku right????? so again he has become kenpachi???????? what does that mean???

 

[kotoamatsukami]

go back n rewatch your bleach, there are scenes where they are argiung then she gives them the eye then they shush.

so why didnt he 1 shot her just like he did with hitsuguya? why did he turn around and bounce off?

I gues you are trying to say fake juha was weak? yet he escaped death not once, not twice but rather thrice from an all out yama and mind yu he didnt have regenerative powers like yachiru...

Yea cuz they have lots of respect for her but if she was trying to kill rukia I guarantee they would not just sit there an let it happen..they would shut their mouths if Yama told them to aswell in those types of situations.

I'm pretty sure he would have avoided Yama at that point aswell..he cut down hitsugiya cuz he attacked him unohana did not.

Fake juha was weak compared to Yama if Yama knew he was a fake he would have never went bankai cuz as we seen fake juha was no match Yama did not even need all his bankai abilities he just showed then off to do it cuz he said he wanted to crush juha with all his power.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

go back n rewatch your bleach, there are scenes where they are argiung then she gives them the eye then they shush.

so why didnt he 1 shot her just like he did with hitsuguya? why did he turn around and bounce off?

I gues you are trying to say fake juha was weak? yet he escaped death not once, not twice but rather thrice from an all out yama and mind yu he didnt have regenerative powers like yachiru...

1. She's senior, they have respect for her, Ukitake and Kyoraku never raised their voices in front of Yamamoto neither and i still don't know where it was, so can you give me page?
2. Aizen only show intent to kill Yamamoto, he already said that he don't intent to kill members other than Yamamoto, and Unohana didn't attack Aizen and he didn't wanted to attack Unohana neither, in the end Aizen wouldn't fight with anyone in Gotei if they didn't stood in his way, Unohana didn't and she wasn't attacked by Aizen.
3. I say that Royd (Fake Bach) is stronger than some already top tier characters (Unohana for example) but he is weak compared to Yama and that's obvious. Don't really care, fight was over at the time Yama activate bankai, the reason he wasn't one shoted by Yama is that we wouldn't see Yamamotos other bankai abilities.
4. As long as i remember (correct me if i'm wrong) Unohana don't have regeneration abilities. Omake even said that Sui Feng's arm is healed because of Gotei's high technology, not because of Unohana's ability.

 

[Grim]

the question should be why didnt aizen do anything but flee once unohona appeared?

the question should be why shuusui and ukitake could argue and fight yama ji but never talked back or raised their voices when unohona gave them the snake eye?

remeber the fake juha stood a chance against yama since he pushed him to use all the points of his bankai....what makes you think unohona wouldnt? fremember she has regenerative powers!!!

nwy back to topic........currently zaraki is the strongest shinigami in ss...with or without shikai/bankai. Remember unohona's last words..every fight will be like a boring game to you....i gues she was speaking out of experience....maybe thats why she stopped fighting and focused on meds.

ichigo is no shinigami...he is a hybrid of everything. as zaraki is am guesing ichi is stronger but if he was to get a bankai ( which he will never, infact i think he will just get the basics of his shikai only ) it will be a different story.

another funny fact, everytime there is over powered villan, Kenpachi is ALWAYS somewhere else, I wonder why? I'd put my money on "to not spoil the party" everytime there is some sort of redicilous power it has no effect on him and he beats the borders of possible with impossible. Still not good enough?

I'm surprised with those people who after all the evidence still try to put him down, but who am I to question little kids logic? =D

 

[China IL]

Kenpachi is the name given to the top notch mass murderer of that era. Kenpachi was trained by Unohona with the price of her life. Although, Yamamato was, and wil always be praised for being the strongest shinigami for centuries. Unohina even warned him abut his bankai's power, she feared he would burn SS. Meaning, she fears his powers.

Ichigo>Kenpachi. I'm positive. Kenpachi will want to fight Ichigo again after seeing how badass and OP he is though Lol

 

[KingHashirama]

Kenpachi is the name given to the top notch mass murderer of that era. Kenpachi was trained by Unohona with the price of her life. Although, Yamamato was, and wil always be praised for being the strongest shinigami for centuries. Unohina even warned him abut his bankai's power, she feared he would burn SS. Meaning, she fears his powers.

Ichigo>Kenpachi. I'm positive. Kenpachi will want to fight Ichigo again after seeing how badass and OP he is though Lol

She feared he would burn the place not herself.. She didn't really even fear it though.. =x.

And you do realize, her and Kenpachi's duel had to take place at a place where there were no bounds.. that says a whole lot about their power level.

Now there was someone who Yamamoto himself feared.. and that was the Kenpachi from Zaraki, Zaraki Kenpachi.

Feats say that Unohana don't have chance against 15.000.000 degreces. She don't have ability to past Yamamoto's zanpakuto.

So what? That don't prove that she can destroy SS.

The title is fake? It just prove how useless title is. Again there were much more powerfull shinigami but didn't get the spot.

Oh really, that's why Unohana didn't do anything to Aizen.

People who died in real word forever a kid? Just prove how much you really don't know. Rukia died in Real world man.

Yamamoto was the one who reformed miltary in SS and made 13 squad. Only captain comander have authority to do something like that, so he first become captain comander than made 13 divisions.

- Feats say he has to be able to get into the bankai first.

- Yea obviously they just had them duel in a place where there is nothing to destroy for no reason.

- No false, the title had always belonged to Unohana. Meaning the others were fake. The title was never fake. The ones who claimed themselves to be kenpachi were fake.

- Yamamoto didn't even let unohana fight in a battle over soul society.. rofl.

- forever = reference to long time.

- Go reread smart one. He didn't do any reforming. He is the one who made it. Before yamamoto BOUGHT his powers Unohana was without any competition.

 

[Nebula]

Yamamoto, Shunsui and Ukitake beat Kenpachi in my opinion.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

- Feats say he has to be able to get into the bankai first.

- Yea obviously they just had them duel in a place where there is nothing to destroy for no reason.

- No false, the title had always belonged to Unohana. Meaning the others were fake. The title was never fake. The ones who claimed themselves to be kenpachi were fake.

- Yamamoto didn't even let unohana fight in a battle over soul society.. rofl.

- forever = reference to long time.

- Go reread smart one. He didn't do any reforming. He is the one who made it. Before yamamoto BOUGHT his powers Unohana was without any competition.

1. You must have higher reiatsu to win shinigami battle, Aizen was hit two times by Sui Feng, but survived, because of reiatsu, Unohana ability is not enough to take down Yama.
2. They fight in the muken because that's fight to death, against very strong character, same reason why battle against Aizen was in evacuated KT.
3. He didn't even let Isane fight? So what?
4. Next time better explain, forever is nor reference to long time.
5. Miltary organisation existed long before him (there were captain commanders before him) he just reformed organization, devided it in 13 divisions.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

1. You must have higher reiatsu to win shinigami battle, Aizen was hit two times by Sui Feng, but survived, because of reiatsu, Unohana ability is not enough to take down Yama.
2. They fight in the muken because that's fight to death, against very strong character, same reason why battle against Aizen was in evacuated KT.
3. He didn't even let Isane fight? So what?
4. Next time better explain, forever is nor reference to long time.
5. Miltary organisation existed long before him (there were captain commanders before him) he just reformed organization, devided it in 13 divisions.

There won't no captian commander before Yama