Strongest opponent Hinita Uzumaki can beat?

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No, 5th Gate Lee would be stronger than the version of Neji who fought Hinata, and that's only a possibility. The version of Neji with Rotation and 64 Palms is superior to 5th Gate Lee as well.

Neji had 64 palms back then. Youre seriously underrating Neji to correlarively overhype Hinata. Gai statements not possibility talk. Hes neji and lee sensei he knows thier weaknesses and strengths you shouldnt deny outright fact now.

But we are not here to argue this, as my original point is that running/movement speed being superior does not equate to being superior in CQC. Like I said twice already, Usain Bolt isn't beating Jackie Chan in CQC just because he can run faster, as CQC involved being able to control the momentum and movement of your body, fists, and legs, as well as react accordingly. CQC and running are two very different things.

And this is assuming hinata has better CQC. Show me her taijutsu feats which dont come from holding back enemies like toneri puppets. Just stop. You seem to take every feat literally without analyzing anything happening in that fight. Shes never near base naruto in CQC and never near his speed cuz he fended off killing intent puppets. Sakura has better reflexes, as reflexes and reaction go hand in hand in naruto(Naruto had good reaction speed hence he dodged kaguyas attack which led her call him highly reflexive) which means because sakura reacted, she'll reflex well enough to parry and destroy every attack hinata sends. Shin is highly reflexive than kid shin who evaded naruto attack, latter weaker than former, sakura fended off former so well.

Unfortunatly, neither of these jokes are funny, so I'm not going to be addressing them.

Because whatever argument pokes hole at my argument I should ignore and laugh it off right?

lol If we are going off of Naruto's compliments, he has called Hinata strong, yet never done so with Sakura.

Strong doesnt mean anything. However speed wise anyone calls someone fast then that guy has good reflexes. Kimimaro called lee fast and the next moment he failed to dodge his attack, madara called sasuke fast and he failed dodge his attack, madara called gai fast and he failed to dodge his attack. See the pattern? No one compliments speed unless said guys faster than him/his attack. Either one of them.

That's how humans survived in the first place. But this comparison is flaws to begin with, as due to the moments of different creatures, one require different means of combat. Sakura is not a bull anyways. She's a human who only knows how to throw a straight forward punch that has never hit a single on-guard opponent. And you want to argue that will work on someone who has Byakugan, Gentle Fist mastery, general taijutsu expertise, actual credible feats in CQC, and actual credible reaction feats in CQC? Go ahead then :lol

Fighting held back puppets? Dont care for your interpretations by the way theres no way hinata parry real puppets with killing intent which fought base naruto. One blow with physical contact into the ground is enough, the force would knock out her enemy real quick. Hinata cant parry great force the moment she parries her limbs will be destroyed by said forcible punch.

Power gets shut down by Gentle Fist. Power is irrelevant if she can't hit her on-guard opponent, which she has no feats of doing. Power is irrelevant when the oppnent is capable of dodging and countering.

Not when someone as featless and hypeless as hinata is sakuras opponent. She cant dodge her punch. Gentle fist doesnt touch sakura when she dodges all of her attacks and lands the killing blow. Byakugo healing is another resort.

Already explained the speed and reflexes issues, so this will be my last time repeating it. Runnin speed is irrelevant in CQC, reflexes go to Hinata as shown by 614 and The Last.

Sakura has reflexes she reacted to juubi arm and fended off shin leader whose weaker counterparts reacted plus evaded BM Naruto strike.

Yeah, I know, but that doesn't mean Sakura was using Chakra to heal, as we literally see her do nothing but apply bandages. Is that too exhausting for her? Is that more exhausting than fighting endless Zetsus and staying up all night to keep an eye out for them?

Just because you only saw her putting bandages doesnt mean thats all she did. Medical ninjas shouldnt fight until byakugou opens. Healing wounds cause enormous chakra losses as someone like tsunade coma went when she merely healed a village ful, whereas sakura minimum healed above ten thousand shinobi shes head medical ninja and stated to be the best medical ninja in blink of an eye so she will be in charge of all the works, only small percentage to other medics. Fighting causes lesser chakra loss as medical ninjutsu is the most complex of ninjutsu as why users needed perfect chakra control and sakura is someone who didnt have much chakra according to kakashi. Naruto merely used some frs and sage mode and he has the greatest stamina and chakra due to kyuubi. See the difference.

There's no need to deny straight up nonsensical arguments. Just gotta laugh it off.

You cant counter it anyways lets face it.

[mNaruto is exhausted after fighting the Ten Tails, entering Sage mode, and spamming like 5 rasenshurikens, him being tired is believable and acceptable. Now show me what Sakura had done during the 2 days of the war that would make you are ANYONE believe she is tired VS Hinata who spent those 2 days fighting nonstop in one of the most hectic parts of the battle field.

Above. Plus fighting for days doesnt mean shes fighting contunously as thiers breaks but healing should be done continuously as you could see tsunade constantly sending chakra to heal villagers and sakura during pain attack continuously healing depending on how grave injuries are. Healing requires repairing the body parts of injury which requires much precision as war periods inclined to affect gravical injuries on fighters. Comparing naruto with sakura didnt work. Your comparison also trumped by the fact Sakura saying she reached sasuke level and dodging kaguya punch so its obvious she more tired than she was with kaguya at that point. Healing twenty thousand people isnt a joke and this is a huge underestimation considering tsunade, another best healer, is fighting madara. Sakura fought, healed that many numbers, saved naruto from dying(jinchuuriki damage is so immense gaara died immediately) despite getting bijuu ripped off in her tired state.......theres nothing hinata has done compared to this.

 

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Neji had 64 palms back then.

No he didn't.

And this is assuming hinata has better CQC. Show me her taijutsu feats which dont come from holding back enemies like toneri puppets.

Shes never near base naruto in CQC and never near his speed cuz he fended off killing intent puppets.

Fighting held back puppets? Dont care for your interpretations by the way theres no way hinata parry real puppets with killing intent which fought base naruto.

Already addressed this with Team7Mona, not repeating myself.

You seem to take every feat literally without analyzing anything happening in that fight.

How ironic!!!

Coming from you who claims Sakura is faster than Kaguya/RSM Naruto or saying Shin clones are good enough to battle BM Naruto

Sakura has better reflexes, as reflexes and reaction go hand in hand in naruto(Naruto had good reaction speed hence he dodged kaguyas attack which led her call him highly reflexive) which means because sakura reacted, she'll reflex well enough to parry and destroy every attack hinata sends. Shin is highly reflexive than kid shin who evaded naruto attack, latter weaker than former, sakura fended off former so well.

Already addressed this, so I'm not repeating myself. That said, when the heck did Kaguya say Naruto is highly reflexive? Is this in the same page where Kakashi was able to fly? :lol

Because whatever argument pokes hole at my argument I should ignore and laugh it off right?

No, your arguments are just dumb.

Strong doesnt mean anything. However speed wise anyone calls someone fast then that guy has good reflexes. Kimimaro called lee fast and the next moment he failed to dodge his attack, madara called sasuke fast and he failed dodge his attack, madara called gai fast and he failed to dodge his attack. See the pattern? No one compliments speed unless said guys faster than him/his attack. Either one of them.

Okay, Sakura still didn't dodge Kaguya's hand. :mew:

One blow with physical contact into the ground is enough, the force would knock out her enemy real quick.

Already addressed; not repeating.

Hinata cant parry great force the moment she parries her limbs will be destroyed by said forcible punch.

Implying Sakura's punches can't be parried? lmao!

Not when someone as featless and hypeless as hinata is sakuras opponent. She cant dodge her punch. Gentle fist doesnt touch sakura when she dodges all of her attacks and lands the killing blow. Byakugo healing is another resort.

Already addressed; not repeating.

Sakura has reflexes she reacted to juubi arm and fended off shin leader whose weaker counterparts reacted plus evaded BM Naruto strike.

lol Exactly what I mean

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Just because you only saw her putting bandages doesnt mean thats all she did.

off panel feats = irrelevant.

Medical ninjas shouldnt fight until byakugou opens.

Wrong, they are allowed to fight, just not on the front lines. Hence Sakura fighting Sasori with Chiyo.

Healing wounds cause enormous chakra losses as someone like tsunade coma went when she merely healed a village ful,

whereas sakura minimum healed above ten thousand shinobi

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shes head medical ninja

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she will be in charge of all the works, only small percentage to other medics.

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Fighting causes lesser chakra loss as medical ninjutsu is the most complex of ninjutsu

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Above. Plus fighting for days doesnt mean shes fighting contunously

Actually yes it does because they were up against thousands of Zetsus.

but healing should be done continuously.

Must be why she has time to have conversations with fodders about love letters, and go around analyzing and performing Zetsu autopsies. :lol Guess that's fanfic x5.

Your comparison also trumped by the fact Sakura saying she reached sasuke level and dodging kaguya punch so its obvious she more tired than she was with kaguya at that point. Healing twenty thousand people isnt a joke and this is a huge underestimation considering tsunade, another best healer, is fighting madara. Sakura fought, healed that many numbers, saved naruto from dying(jinchuuriki damage is so immense gaara died immediately) despite getting bijuu ripped off in her tired state.......theres nothing hinata has done compared to this.

XD Too much fanfic!!!

 

[Uverdore9]

No he didn't.




Already addressed this with Team7Mona, not repeating myself.



How ironic!!!

Coming from you who claims Sakura is faster than Kaguya/RSM Naruto or saying Shin clones are good enough to battle BM Naruto

Never said he was trained enough to battle Naruto. Read my quotes properly. He is trained enough to dodge Naruto's BM kyuubi arm attack. Not all of his AOE Bijuudama. Naruto complimenting him is proof.

Already addressed this, so I'm not repeating myself. That said, when the heck did Kaguya say Naruto is highly reflexive? Is this in the same page where Kakashi was able to fly? :lol

No, when Kaguya came from the portal, Naruto blitzed out with shunshin after sensing her. Zetsu called him good reflexes also because he could react and reflex to thier attacks so both terminologies go hand in hand in Naruto.

No, your arguments are just dumb.

Okay.....whatever you say my lady XD.

Okay, Sakura still didn't dodge Kaguya's hand. :mew:

Youre still debating this....gosh. she dodged it end of story prove she didnt, kakashi didnt save immediately.

Already addressed; not repeating.



Implying Sakura's punches can't be parried? lmao

Guess when the cats out of the bag you gotta resort to this.....good. Youre acting like bruce lee can parry a 60 ton boulder....now dont say Sakura is not boulder because in terms of power thats exactly what she is, breaking kaguya's horn, destructing some 100 shinobi radius ground(as Ive showed you before: the scaled scan), Hashirama's praise that she might be worser than Tsunade(worser could be an assumption as you could argue like you always do, but that means shes not greater/below tsunade but equal to her which means all of Tsunade's feats she gets), Destroying Zetsu clones and Juubi minions(which is Hashirama cells which are Obito uses to increase durability and have healing properties) which only GF techniques which attack the insides could match(Even air palm is not blunt force, databook says it targets opponent's vitals which means works just like Gentle Fist) and this, Sakura accomplished with blunt force alone, all after healing several people as of course the greatest medic nin would be attending the most victims as common sense says.

Already addressed; not repeating.




lol Exactly what I mean

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off panel feats = irrelevant.

Common sense is applied and thus sakura if not continuously was still healing multitudes among multitudes. The amount of chakra in her base is low which kakashi said in part 1, yet with chakra management which is CC, she managed to heal that many, when she opens seal, her chakra is >>>>kaguya as she teleported obito seven times while kaguya lost her chakra rserves after shifting dimensions two times. That much chakra she has.

Wrong, they are allowed to fight, just not on the front lines. Hence Sakura fighting Sasori with Chiyo.

Agree yet not much since theres below 10% chance the enemy could penetrate towards the lowest end of divisions where medics are situated.

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Actually yes it does because they were up against thousands of Zetsus.

She had help from several shinobi including hiashi, neji, several top tiers etc cera. There arent much medics in shinobi world in proportion because medical ninja require accurate CC, which is rare. Look at leaf. How many medics are cannonically revealed. Ino, sakura, tsunade, shizune and a low percentage of village. That by itself should give you an idea on how much sakura had to attend to during war.

Must be why she has time to have conversations with fodders about love letters, and go around analyzing and performing Zetsu autopsies. :lol Guess that's fanfic x5.



XD Too much fanfic!!!

I'll agree to this, she wasnt continuously healing, yet she was the greatest medic other than tsunade at that time hence had the greatest percentage to attend to. Doesnt change my fact, just tilts from what I originally implied.