Strongest Nin to ever come out of Kirigakure?

[Lariatoo]

By feats, definitly Kisame.
Still rooting for future Haku, tho.

 

[BlacLord™]

Probably some jin or kisame, but the best "ninja" is Zabuza. Ninjas are stealth, Zabuza is a great example of that.

The others are massive destruction creatures that make the name of ninja look like a joke

Kishimoto said from the get-go that it was going to be like the popularised traditional view of ninja, which isn't even real anyway.

The idea of people in black full body suits and tabi is an urban creation anyway, so it doesn't matter how much further the idea gets fictionalised because it was already fictionalised anyway. What does have real connection is stuff like Katon and Dōton, which real ninja did use. (Obviously they didn't meld chakra into fireballs or anything like that, but they did use gunpowder and the like.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kisame is probably the strongest. Yagura next.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Kisame 100%

 

[super yang]

most raw power: yagura

most overall skill/strength: Kisame

best water user: Gengetsu

best Kiri character: Zabuza

 

[Zexion~]

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Is that not Shark Skin on dudes back to the left and the dude we seen Kisame kill and take it from?

Yet Chojuro's blade is there, and I don't even think Mangetsu Hozaki is NOT there, so by the time he comes around Samehada was already taken.

 

[LuckyMan]

Yet Chojuro's blade is there, and I don't even think Mangetsu Hozaki is NOT there, so by the time he comes around Samehada was already taken.

What the heck are you even talking about now?

 

[Zexion~]

What the heck are you even talking about now?

Idiot.

Samehada was already taken by the time Mangetsu "mastered" all swords.

 

[LuckyMan]

Idiot.

Samehada was already taken by the time Mangetsu "mastered" all swords.

Clearly your comprehension level is of a second grader so I'll reword my posts for now on for you.

There are seven swords on the playground.
Mangetsu plays with all seven swords.
Shark Skin is one of the seven swords.
Did Mangetsu play with Shark Skin?

Doesn't get easier than that.

 

[Transcendence]

I'd say it's probably Kisame. Best competitor is Yagura, but if we scale it by portrayal -> Kisame was keeping up with Killer Bee, who has the second strongest Bijuu. So logically, he's below Killer Bee, and enough to put him below Kisame. I'd imagine an Adult Haku would be the strongest had he got developed, but obviously not.

 

[Zexion~]

Clearly your comprehension level is of a second grader so I'll reword my posts for now on for you.

There are seven swords on the playground.
Mangetsu plays with all seven swords.
Shark Skin is one of the seven swords.
Did Mangetsu play with Shark Skin?

Doesn't get easier than that.

Playing with it and mastering it are two different things. Him using it messes up Kishi's timeline once more though.

 

[LuckyMan]

Playing with it and mastering it are two different things. Him using it messes up Kishi's timeline once more though.

The timeline means nothing in the versus colosseum. We all know its fucked up, from Obito meeting Nagato 20 years ago (when he'd be 11), to Hashirama remembering little Tsunade (he was dead before she was born), and much more.

The manga states he MASTERED all 7 swords. You're basically saying the author lied about this and choosing to believe your own fan fiction over what really happened in the series. Can't use the timeline excuse because there are so many screw ups in it already.

If you're going to run with that, then I'll ask for a legit timeline from you and you'll need to prove,

How old was Mangetsu.
How old was Kisame when he took Shark Skin.
That Kisame abandon Kiri immediately after he got Shark Skin.
That Mangetsu didn't master Shark Skin when it was in Kiri.

Trying to do all of that is futile in my opinion because they author stated he mastered then all seven of them. Don't know why you don't want to give him credit.

 

[Zexion~]

The timeline means nothing in the versus colosseum. We all know its fucked up, from Obito meeting Nagato 20 years ago (when he'd be 11), to Hashirama remembering little Tsunade (he was dead before she was born), and much more.

The manga states he MASTERED all 7 swords. You're basically saying the author lied about this and choosing to believe your own fan fiction over what really happened in the series. Can't use the timeline excuse because there are so many screw ups in it already.

If you're going to run with that, then I'll ask for a legit timeline from you and you'll need to prove,

How old was Mangetsu.
How old was Kisame when he took Shark Skin.
That Kisame abandon Kiri immediately after he got Shark Skin.
That Mangetsu didn't master Shark Skin when it was in Kiri.

Trying to do all of that is futile in my opinion because they author stated he mastered then all seven of them. Don't know why you don't want to give him credit.

No he stated he couldn't master all of them before his death, but that he was able to use all of them .-.

And obviously Kisame fled the village right after he had just killed an important figure and stole his sword.

Mangetsu was born when Zabuza was already an adult, as his nickname was the second coming of the demon meaning the demon of the hidden mist had already achieved his glory, plus I believe he studied under him. So that basically puts around a 16 year window. Kisame is around 36 I believe or 33, and he stole it around the time Obito was controlling yagura.

Im not going to do it but calculate all that and you can come up with an answer

 

[Kagustuchi]

It's was said that Yagura could control Biju but it was never stated Yagura worked with his Biju like Bee or was anything similar

Kisame is the safest candidate imo, if Yagura is a Perfect Jin then it would be him

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Lmaao, yeah he was a kid when he did it. But let's take a look at his reaction when Kakashi brings it up. Dude literally has the creepiest and happiest expression on his face. He'd easily do it again, no hesitation!

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So sure, Kisame is more hardcore for just going to rip some obnoxious brats legs off.

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Lmaooooo! Sick fuck. But Kisame could clearly relate, without getting off to himself.

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I'd say it's probably Kisame. Best competitor is Yagura, but if we scale it by portrayal -> Kisame was keeping up with Killer Bee, who has the second strongest Bijuu. So logically, he's below Killer Bee, and enough to put him below Kisame. I'd imagine an Adult Haku would be the strongest had he got developed, but obviously not.

My opinion, exactly!

 

[Apêx1]

Kakashi implied Haku had tremendous potential, and that was before he even saw his Ice KKG. Give her another ten years and he'd shit 99% of the Shinobi world. Shat on Sasuke who was a Indra reincarnate and a prodigy, and if it weren't for the Kyuubi, Naruto would've died to. Haku had the most potential by far, I'd say it's tied between her and Kisame.

 

[Haizaki]

Yagura should be the strongest to come out.

 

[DMT]

1st Mizukage

the shark mutha****a

 

[Beans2]

Kakashi implied Haku had tremendous potential, and that was before he even saw his Ice KKG. Give her another ten years and he'd shit 99% of the Shinobi world. Shat on Sasuke who was a Indra reincarnate and a prodigy, and if it weren't for the Kyuubi, Naruto would've died to. Haku had the most potential by far, I'd say it's tied between her and Kisame.

Which is it, Im so confused!?

 

[BlueMeteor]

Gengetsu and Kisame are pretty close