[Discussion] Strawhats minus luffy vs

[Tomato God]

Does the threadmakerguy means. EVERYBODY exept luffy vs (....) ??

Yes, Yes I do.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

None, luffy pulls the whole thing together

 

[SSS12]

Would've lost to Enel and Crocodile and maybe a couple others. But then you could probably say that without Sanji and Zoro, they would have been wiped out on various occasions too. Zoro bought time against Arlong while Sanji freed Luffy, Zoro took on the Cat bros in Ussop's arc, without him they would have killed Kaya and everything would have been pointless, and so on.

The point is they are a team. They need to look out for each other and work together.

 

[kageking]

How far would the straw hats gotten without luffy vs these villans in these arcs

• Don Krieg.
• Crocodile.
• Enel.
• Lucci.
• Hody.
• Ceasar.
• That Cat Guy from Usopps home town.
• Arlong.
• Buggy.

All of these back with the strength they had at the time. I.E. Syrup Island Zoro Vs Buggy From when we first met him.

Well pretty much the question your asking is can zoro or sanji beat those guys if Luffy wasn't there. I'd say yes to all except Crocodile, Enel and Lucci. Luffy pretty much had to die 3 times before he could beat the Croc. Enels' df is OP as hell, only way to win is to counter that ability, and only luffy could do that being a gomu man. Lucci was a fight Luffy had to go all out for and only just came out on top. At that point with Gears, Luffy was significantly stronger than zoro and sanji ( who got powerups too but not on the same level ). Maybe Zoro and Sanji together could take Lucci on but neither of them could alone.