[Discussion] Strawhats minus luffy vs

[Tomato God]

How far would the straw hats gotten without luffy vs these villans in these arcs

• Don Krieg.
• Crocodile.
• Enel.
• Lucci.
• Hody.
• Ceasar.
• That Cat Guy from Usopps home town.
• Arlong.
• Buggy.

All of these back with the strength they had at the time. I.E. Syrup Island Zoro Vs Buggy From when we first met him.

 

[straightup]

well crocodile and enel would murder the strawhat crew. I personally think Enel is one of the strongest characters in OP. Only reason luffy won was because he was a rubber man.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Should've beaten them all imo except Enel.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Should've beaten them all imo except Enel.

Even Croc?

They beat everyone except Croc and Enel.

 

[Skull Knight]

arlong would have killed them

 

[YellowFang]

Don Kreig: SHs low diff...
Crocodile: 50/50 If they manage to get him wet then yes...
Enel: No way...
Lucci: SHs mid diff...
Hordy: SHs neg diff...
Ceasar: SHs low diff...
Capt. Kuro: SHs neg diff...
Arlong: SHs mid diff...
Buggy: It's a difficult one, how can we assume strengths of the other crew members... I say SHs here too...

It's because SH - Luffy > Luffy [Most of the time...]

 

[ultraChalk]

How far would the straw hats gotten without luffy vs these villans in these arcs

• Don Krieg.
• Crocodile.
• Enel.
• Lucci.
• Hody.
• Ceasar.
• That Cat Guy from Usopps home town.
• Arlong.
• Buggy.

All of these back with the strength they had at the time. I.E. Syrup Island Zoro Vs Buggy From when we first met him.

They would've been defeated by DK.
And Crocodile.
And Enel.
And Lucci.
Zoro would've beaten Hody.
Smoker, Zoro, or Law would've beaten Caesar.
Nobody at that time could've beaten Kuro.
Nobody could've beaten Arlong, they were all too wounded.
Buggy would've beaten everybody.

 

[Yagami Lightt]

Wtf are you guys saying?

Don Krieg. yes
Crocodile. NO
Enel. NO
Lucci. NoNoNo
Hody. Yes
Ceasar. NO. Luffy was immune to poison. The rest wouldve died
That Cat Guy from Usopps home town. Yes
Arlong. No
Buggy. No. Zorro is has no effect against buggy at all

 

[Yagami Lightt]

Don Kreig: SHs low diff...
Crocodile: 50/50 If they manage to get him wet then yes...
Enel: No way...
Lucci: SHs mid diff...
Hordy: SHs neg diff...
Ceasar: SHs low diff...
Capt. Kuro: SHs neg diff...
Arlong: SHs mid diff...
Buggy: It's a difficult one, how can we assume strengths of the other crew members... I say SHs here too...

It's because SH - Luffy > Luffy [Most of the time...]

What is SH?

 

[YellowFang]

Even Croc?

They beat everyone except Croc and Enel.

Even Luffy could defeat him w/o Haki...
He used water, others can too and then 'Shishi Sonson' + '[Any] Shot' + '[Any] Sure-Kill-Stars' + 'Lightning Tempo' would be enough IMO

 

[YellowFang]

What is SH?

>> Strawhats...

 

[YellowFang]

They would've been defeated by DK.
And Crocodile.
And Enel.
And Lucci.
Zoro would've beaten Hody.
Smoker, Zoro, or Law would've beaten Caesar.
Nobody at that time could've beaten Kuro.
Nobody could've beaten Arlong, they were all too wounded.
Buggy would've beaten everybody.

If we're taking into account the battles they fought previously and had to fight in Luffy's place and with the numbers they had at that time...
I approve this list...

Edit:
Looks like I'm spamming a bit too much...

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Even Croc?

They beat everyone except Croc and Enel.

Probably, imagine Zoros swords soaked in water xD

 

[Yagami Lightt]

Does the threadmakerguy means. EVERYBODY exept luffy vs (....) ??

 

[Fireplay]

Arlong, Enel, Lucci and Croc would murder them.

 

[Peace Maker]

Enel would helle r a p e them with lightning balls

 

[A v i]

Croc-kun would beat the crap out of them. Even Luffy can't beat them without plot shit if u ask me.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Don Krieg, Arlong, Croc, Enel, Lucci, Buggy and maybe Caesar would've killed everyone.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Don Krieg, Arlong, Croc, Enel, Lucci, Buggy and maybe Caesar would've killed everyone.

So Don Krieg, Arlong, and Caesar>Zoro in their arcs then? Only Croc, Enel, and Buggy would have beaten Zoro, and the only reason Buggy can is because he is immune to swords.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

So Don Krieg, Arlong, and Caesar>Zoro in their arcs then? Only Croc, Enel, and Buggy would have beaten Zoro, and the only reason Buggy can is because he is immune to swords.

In the Don Krieg arc, Zoro was beaten by Mihawk. He was no condition to do anyting.

In the Arlong arc, Zoro was seriously injured(because of Mihawk) and struggled to Hatchi because of it. He'd be in no condition to fight Arlong.

Not sure about Caesar which is why I said maybe. The gas removal thing caused luffy to suffocate and pass out. Luffy only got away because he could stretch.