Stop Overpowering Minato and Tobimara!

[taladagah]

We honestly really haven't seen Minato's abilities to the fullest, the Raikage believed that he couldn't be defeated for a reason so i wouldn't say he could beat Sasuke but I wouldn't say Sasuke can beat him. EH.

This my roun

 

[Chloras]

I came here to address you people that keep overpowering Minato and Tobimara!
"Didn't Hiruzen lose to Orochimaru? Didn't Danzo lose to Sasuke? Didn't Minato fail to finish off Obito? Didn't Tobimara lose
to Gold and Silver Squad? Didn't Tsunade have her loses as well? You understand where i'm getting at here? Just because
they are Kages doesn't mean they are the best! Sure each of them have their own skill set, but many ninjas can beat them
in a 1-on-1 excluding possibly Tobimara aside from Hashirama."

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let me stop you right here, pal. I see you're very loyal and obedient to our honorable and mighty savior lord Sasuke, but let me get some facts straight here... Hiruzen wasn't just simply fighting orochimaru. He fought Orochimaru, his team of four members, and 1st and 2nd hokages at the same time. Despite the fact that Hiruzen was clearly outnumbered, he pretty much kicked Orochimarus ass that time, because after that fight Orochimaru wasn't even capable of making a single hand sign for years.

Second thing that I have to say, is that Obito clearly saved our legendary hero's lord Sasukes ass when he fought against Danzo, so your argument about beating Danzo is pretty much invalid.

And just for the record, Sasuke always getting saved by others over and over again. I don't think that he could solo Hiruzen in a fair 1vs1 fight, because he couldn't even beat Kabuto or Killer Bee alone.

And the one thing I know for sure. Any other Hokage, apart Tsunade, would rape our honorable lord Sasukes ass in all possible ways. Deal with it, pal.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let me stop you right here, pal. I see you're very loyal and obedient to our honorable and mighty savior lord Sasuke, but let me get some facts straight here... Hiruzen wasn't just simply fighting orochimaru. He fought Orochimaru, his team of four members, and 1st and 2nd hokages at the same time. Despite the fact that Hiruzen was clearly outnumbered, he pretty much kicked Orochimarus ass that time, because after that fight Orochimaru wasn't even capable of making a single hand sign for years.

Second thing that I have to say, is that Obito clearly saved our legendary hero's lord Sasukes ass when he fought against Danzo, so your argument about beating Danzo is pretty much invalid.

And just for the record, Sasuke always getting saved by others over and over again. I don't think that he could solo Hiruzen in a fair 1vs1 fight, because he couldn't even beat Kabuto or Killer Bee alone.

And the one thing I know for sure. Any other Hokage, apart Tsunade, would rape our honorable lord Sasukes ass in all possible ways. Deal with it, pal.

Your delusional! Sasuke didn't get save in all his matches that's you twisting the facts! Sure, Sasuke lost against Bee that one i will agree! Danzo lost fair and square that shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Don't tell me about Obito because he thought he needed to save Sasuke, but he later says "Sasuke had enough hatred to overpower the seal."

He didn't fight Kabuto seriously were do you come from making such an absurd assumption. Sasuke was just following through Itachi's command of not killing Kabuto. Hiruzen lost deal with it! No one can rape an EMS user, so i don't think i can take you seriously!

 

[razinzell]

People aren't overrating them because they're kage, but because the are the Hokage. The hokage is said to be the strongest out of the 5 villages. And 1-4 are some of the strongest people in the entire series. If you don't count the SO6P and his sons then all 4 of them are in the top 10. But saying that any of them could fight Sasuke no diff is ignorant. I do believe that all of them can beat him 1 on 1 though, but that is just my opinion.

 

[Chloras]

Your delusional! Sasuke didn't get save in all his matches that's you twisting the facts! Sure, Sasuke lost against Bee that one i will agree! Danzo lost fair and square that shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Don't tell me about Obito because he thought he needed to save Sasuke, but he later says "Sasuke had enough hatred to overpower the seal."

He didn't fight Kabuto seriously were do you come from making such an absurd assumption. Sasuke was just following through Itachi's command of not killing Kabuto. Hiruzen lost deal with it! No one can rape an EMS user, so i don't think i can take you seriously!

No, pal, you're the one who is delusional, if you think that Sasuke can defeat Minato or Tobirama. Your statement about how Sasuke could beat them is extremely funny, because now, you don't even know what Minato and Tobirama are capable of. It's the same as saying that thousand is bigger number than infinity, only because your mind can't really understand what infinity is.

As far as we saw in manga, I could say that this Sasuke kid couldn't even land a single hit on Minato, cause even Raikage, who was clearly stated as a fastest (currently) Shinobi alive couldn't do so.

As for Tobirama, well, we didn't really saw all his abilities, but even if he is at least half that strong as Hashirama, your lord Sasuke is a pretty much dead meat to him.

Hiruzen lost deal with it!

And no offense, but this one making me laugh out loud, bro. You're funny. I guess you're trying to negate my statement, that Hiruzen was outnumbered in his battle with Orochimaru. Well, if 7 against 1 looks like a fair battle to you, I can form a quite well opinion about your personality from this...

Anyway, my real mission here is to tell you, that you should pull back your lips from your beloved honorable lord Sasukes ass. :/
I mean, that kid is a pure fail as a character, has shittiest personality of all shinobi from the very first volume of this manga, are dumb as shit, and has only average skills as a ninja, although in the beginning of manga was considered a genius. In all these years Naruto did a ten times bigger progress as a shinobi, and the only thing that legendary lord Sasuke did was getting his ass saved countless times by the plot no justu. Of course you can try to negate that, but their actions are speaking for themselves.

 

[osba]

Stop talking about characters we haven't seen fighting yet you tards... Ughhh

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

No, pal, you're the one who is delusional, if you think that Sasuke can defeat Minato or Tobirama. Your statement about how Sasuke could beat them is extremely funny, because now, you don't even know what Minato and Tobirama are capable of. It's the same as saying that thousand is bigger number than infinity, only because your mind can't really understand what infinity is.

As far as we saw in manga, I could say that this Sasuke kid couldn't even land a single hit on Minato, cause even Raikage, who was clearly stated as a fastest (currently) Shinobi alive couldn't do so.

As for Tobirama, well, we didn't really saw all his abilities, but even if he is at least half that strong as Hashirama, your lord Sasuke is a pretty much dead meat to him.


And no offense, but this one making me laugh out loud, bro. You're funny. I guess you're trying to negate my statement, that Hiruzen was outnumbered in his battle with Orochimaru. Well, if 7 against 1 looks like a fair battle to you, I can form a quite well opinion about your personality from this...

Anyway, my real mission here is to tell you, that you should pull back your lips from your beloved honorable lord Sasukes ass. :/
I mean, that kid is a pure fail as a character, has shittiest personality of all shinobi from the very first volume of this manga, are dumb as shit, and has only average skills as a ninja, although in the beginning of manga was considered a genius. In all these years Naruto did a ten times bigger progress as a shinobi, and the only thing that legendary lord Sasuke did was getting his ass saved countless times by the plot no justu. Of course you can try to negate that, but their actions are speaking for themselves.

Actually you keep mentioning baseless statements. I mentioned that Tobimara actually has a chance of beating Sasuke due to the fact that he is Hashirama's brother, so that there clearly states that his power must be incredible. I was being fair you're the one that keeps trying to prove me wrong and it won't work! Also just because i have an avatar of Sasuke doesn't mean that i'm like the rest of the fanboys. I just love the images that Kishimoto came up with Sasuke that's all. I don't go running around based on one finger movement saying Tobimara rapes Sasuke that's ridiculous to assume.

Your just mad because i'm sticking to my own opinion about Tobimara and Minato possibly failing to defeat Sasuke. This isn't MS Sasuke this EMS Sasuke do you know the difference? Unlike me you judge situations very quickly because in your previous statement you mentioned that DSM Kabuto beats Sasuke. When the latter was using his MS techniques against Kabuto. He didn't even use his EMS powers, except on Zetsu. If this was a discussion about Sasuke facing the 4 Hokages with MS, then i can possibly agree that he doesn't stand much of a chance against them. The rules doesn't apply now, since Sasuke has EMS on his arsenal which puts him below Madara in terms of sharingan prowess.

I doubt Sasuke is that behind from EMS Madara in terms of power! How can you make dumb statements about Minato wiping the floor with Sasuke? Is Minato such a powerhouse to go face-to-face with the likes of Sasuke? Doubt it at most he can give him a challenge! Also, you miss the point that when Raikage was overwhelming Sasuke with his Version 2! Sasuke was quick enough to react by putting a shield of black flames behind him. Sasuke already has fast attack such as Susanoo Arrow and Amaterasu Orb! I don't see Minato dodge attacks forever! We didn't see Minato face against opponents such as Sasuke with sharingan abilities that makes him outstanding compare to most of the fodders Minato fought, excluding Obito!

 

[cmontesi]

I came here to address you people that keep overpowering Minato and Tobimara!

"Nobody can be serious about Minato beating Sasuke with no difficulty. I keep seeing the same things over and over!
I believe people don't even think twice about their opinions before replying to others. We understand they are both strong in their own rights, but hasn't most Hokages lost fights to Akatsuki's, Sannin's, and Rogue Ninjas? So why must we keep talking about someone's strength just because they're in the "Leaf Village?"

"Didn't Hiruzen lose to Orochimaru? Didn't Danzo lose to Sasuke? Didn't Minato fail to finish off Obito? Didn't Tobimara lose
to Gold and Silver Squad? Didn't Tsunade have her loses as well? You understand where i'm getting at here? Just because
they are Kages doesn't mean they are the best! Sure each of them have their own skill set, but many ninjas can beat them
in a 1-on-1 excluding possibly Tobimara aside from Hashirama."

"Now overpowering Hashirama isn't necessarily bad since he basically had a lot of bad rapport by many of you. Still, Hiruzen
was praised to be the strongest out of the four Kages which is far from the truth. Hiruzen was strong, but a far cry from
being powerful! Minato is arguably the fastest ninja along with Naruto, but he isn't the strongest and many people take his
speed to use for his strength! Speed can be trump just like Madara when he grabbed hold of A."

"Now many of you are saying that Sasuke can't hold his own against none of them! That's a complete bunch of lies for real!
But when push comes to shove you. When you see one of your beloved Kages losing you go, Ahh, but how? He was a
Kage? She was a Kage? Sasuke is already above Kage-level ninja just below Naruto. So i don't see why the constant
bashing of his character it's gotten worse ever since his collaboration match with Itachi against Kabuto."

I have seen people praise Minato the point where he can beat Juubi, Nagato, Itachi, Sasuke, Madara, etc... That's ridiculous
to point out for real! He is just pure speed that's all! Why the constant admiration about his speed being the validation of
being strong? He is skillful, but big deal! Speed can be taken down! Doesn't matter what method the person decides to
use!

Tobimara on the other hand is Hashirama's brother. I can't really see him being weak at all because they're brothers each
set of brothers is strong doesn't matter from what clan! He is the creator of Edo Tensei, a master of Suiton jutsu, and he
is said to have S/T techniques as well. We haven't seen him in battle to really make a claim that's he so great! We already
have knowledge about Hashirama so we can conclude that's he is the real deal, but not Tobimara!

Now to compare if any of them fought Sasuke! I don't see Hiruzen beating EMS Sasuke. I don't see Minato beating EMS
Sasuke. Tobimara has a chance, but a low one in fact! Hashirama clearly beats EMS Sasuke!

You should take your own advice and quit talking about yourself.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

You should take your own advice and quit talking about yourself.

You should stop paying attention to me you little *** i'm not into you. I don't go thread after thread to find your name to give you a reply. I have beaten you time and time again so stop caring about my threads! Also, stop trying to think that you're above me silly kid! All you do is provide the most insignificant of information and i still beat you, so do me a favor and mind your typing.

 

[Jonesy161]

You should stop paying attention to me you little *** i'm not into you. I don't go thread after thread to find your name to give you a reply. I have beaten you time and time again so stop caring about my threads! Also, stop trying to think that you're above me silly kid! All you do is provide the most insignificant of information and i still beat you, so do me a favor and mind your typing.

SMH...

Anyways, it's time to let you know the actual facts, not just the made up ones in your head.

Sasuke vs Naruto; Valley of the End - Won fairly

Sasuke vs Orochimaru - Oro was on his deathbed and incapable of using his arms, Sasuke didn't win fair and square. It's like killing a human tomato.

Sasuke vs Itachi - Itachi was sick and close to his death before the fight ever began. Zetsu even stated it, Itachi wasn't even trying. Zetsu also said Sasuke would have stood zero chance if Itachi was serious from the get go.

Sasuke vs Killer B - Killer B demolished Sasuke and Sasuke had MS as well as his entire team to assist him. If B wanted to fight, if B didn't come up with a plan to use this team as a decoy so he can sneak away from A, then B would have killed them all right there.

Sasuke vs A - Sasuke stood zero chance at all. A was about to destroy Sasuke but Sasuke made a clever escape.

Sasuke vs Kage Summit - Kages were about to kill Sasuke. Onoki had Sasuke in his target, Tobi rescued Sasuke from certain doom.

Sasuke vs Danzo - Danzo was winning, he had the upper hand. Tobi stepped in to tell Sasuke what the jutsu Danzo was using. If Tobi didn't do that, Sasuke would have died, never knowing that Danzo was using Izanagi.

Sasuke vs Kabuto - Multiple times during the fight, Kabuto nearly killed/captured Sasuke. Itachi saved him EVERY time. Sasuke was also unable to land a single hit on Kabuto and Sasuke was using MS and EMS the ENTIRE time.

Sorry to say buddy, but Lord Sasuke is weak.

 

[crono0929]

Minato has unimpressive to me ever since Obito was revealed.
According to the timeline Obito was only 14 when he fought Minato.
Meaning the only fight Minato actually won was against an inexperienced kid in his first actual battle.

To think that some people think he can stand a chance against Itachi the solo king.

a 14 year old kid, in an enhanced zetsu suit and trained by madara AND controlling Kurama.

you must take into consideration that at the moment minato was fighting obito, his wife and kid were in danger, and as soon as he figured out how the kamui operated, it became an ass whooping for obito.

ok, but since he was a 14 year old kid....What about the time when minato went up against the raikage and Killer B(nearly killed sasuke twice in a fight), without having any interest in fighting, and clearly with the ability to maybe win that encounter.

and please stop saying we haven't seen EMS sasuke in action, We already have...When he was being raped by kabuto alongside itachi, and thanks to itachi they won.

 

[eNNeMyy]

What a whiner :| cry me a river.

Can guys like you just shut the fck up? If you only want to talk non sense trash, go the toilet and tell it to your poop.
I could cry a rivee, because I couldn't believe that such a fail brain like yours even exist. These thread bashers are just annoying.
Agree with your thread. Sasuke > Tobirama.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

a 14 year old kid, in an enhanced zetsu suit and trained by madara AND controlling Kurama.

you must take into consideration that at the moment minato was fighting obito, his wife and kid were in danger, and as soon as he figured out how the kamui operated, it became an ass whooping for obito.

ok, but since he was a 14 year old kid....What about the time when minato went up against the raikage and Killer B(nearly killed sasuke twice in a fight), without having any interest in fighting, and clearly with the ability to maybe win that encounter.

and please stop saying we haven't seen EMS sasuke in action, We already have...When he was being raped by kabuto alongside itachi, and thanks to itachi they won.

If Sasuke wasn't there Itachi wouldn't have been able to accomplish Izanami, so they both get partial credit. Where do you go of saying Sasuke got raped by Kabuto when he wasn't even using EMS techniques on him... He wasn't going all out in that entire match. I certainly didn't see him use the Susanoo that he used on Zetsu. You need to stop making yourself look foolish.

 

[crono0929]

If Sasuke wasn't there Itachi wouldn't have been able to accomplish Izanami, so they both get partial credit. Where do you go of saying Sasuke got raped by Kabuto when he wasn't even using EMS techniques on him... He wasn't going all out in that entire match. I certainly didn't see him use the Susanoo that he used on Zetsu. You need to stop making yourself look foolish.

but on the contraire, you need to stop with these ridiculous statements that sasuke can solo 80% on the narutoverse, just because he looked badass defeating a zetzu army (lol), doesn't actually mean he actually is.

why didnt he go all out on the kabuto fight? because your smart sasuke was just attacking nonstop, while poor itachi was trying to analyze the situation.

 

[Bogard]

What a whiner. Aren't you the guy who said Sasuke will solo the kages? You're just a pathetic fanboy. asuke is weaker than every hokage in that room, u mad?

 

[griems]

I love how people make threads about "stop doing this" while in return they do it for a char they like.

Neither of these chars are being overpowered, if anything lately they're being underplayed by Hashirama & Itachi fans.

 

[Paintachi]

yes nagato and itachi surpas them.

 

[Chloras]

SMH...

Anyways, it's time to let you know the actual facts, not just the made up ones in your head.
...
Sorry to say buddy, but Lord Sasuke is weak.

Wow, dude, nicely said. I totally agree with your opinion and facts you have said.

Actually you keep mentioning baseless statements.

You're telling me, that my statements are baseless, but at the same time you're trying to prove me that Sasuke can solo Tomirama and Minato... But that's just fanboyism, so I guess there's always poeple like you here. It's ok.

Your just mad because i'm sticking to my own opinion about Tobimara and Minato possibly failing to defeat Sasuke.

The possibility of Minato or Tobirama failing to deafeat Sasuke is equal to 0%.

I doubt Sasuke is that behind from EMS Madara in terms of power!

I don't know how old are you, but this time I'll let this slip by, cause I don't want to deal harsh with fanatic kids like you.

Is Minato such a powerhouse to go face-to-face with the likes of Sasuke?

Finally, you get it right. Minato is a pure powerhouse. Sasuke is crying emo kid with brain problem (as Tobirama stated).

We didn't see Minato face against opponents such as Sasuke with sharingan abilities that makes him outstanding compare to most of the fodders Minato fought, excluding Obito!

And why the hell would you exclude Obito? Obito is like, twenty times greater Shinobi than your beloved hero and absolute ruler of the world gaylord Sasuke. Deal with it.

 

[Makz]

Fail thread. I can't even consider this a serious argument since the OP calls the 2nd Hokage Tobimara.

It's Tobirama. Believe it.

P.S. Sasuke is stronger than the 3rd, but he would get raped by the others. Peace.

 

[cmontesi]

There should be a poll to ban SuperFlyzzED.
Just a suggestion