Stop excluding edo tensei

[USSJ Future Trunks]

both kabuto and obito referred to it as part of the user's power. madara called it a kinjutsu (he probably only doesnt like it because tobirama created it). never did anyone say its not a legitimate way to fight. it just so happens its so powerful that people dont like it. if its unfair then so is tsukiyomi, amaterasu and C4.

 

[Booker]

Finally something we agree on USSJ

 

[FreakensteinAG]

if its unfair then so is tsukiyomi, amaterasu and C4

These are part of their power, while Edo Tensei is .1% activating chakra to summon the dead and 99.9% the dead shinobi's power.

 

[WhiteMangekyou]

The only reason I never include edo tensei is because that if I'm talking about someone fighting, I want to see them fight, and want them to use only their skills. I don't wanna see anyone else barge in and defeat a more powerful shinobi for them...

 

[Sephy100]

both kabuto and obito referred to it as part of the user's power. madara called it a kinjutsu (he probably only doesnt like it because tobirama created it). never did anyone say its not a legitimate way to fight. it just so happens its so powerful that people dont like it. if its unfair then so is tsukiyomi, amaterasu and C4.

It's excluded because you're raising dead people who retained their jutsu's to fight for you. If it's one on one then it defeats the purpose of 1 v 1. I personally exclude Kurama because he is his own entity that basically recharges Naruto while everyone else is stuck watching their chakra pool but apparently Kurama can be debated. Raising 5-10 people is not. Look at the story now. You have to seal them and even that takes a long time. Edo tensei is a no-no.

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Daisy finally agrees with you on something. . . The Reanimation Jutsu is just like any other Summoning Jutsu. You summon another entity onto the battlefield to assist you. Plain and simple. It's haxed as all hell, but it is what it is. It's legit and must be considered in any VS thread unless it gets barred by the OP. Plain and simple.

 

[ballerjordan]

This. He's just simply summoning someone to fight for him, because he's too *****y to fight the guy himself.

 

[Narubro]

never. NEVER

 

[Holy Cross]

Hmm, how about no


Edit: Your examples are terrible. Yes, I see the point you're trying to make, but it's a debatable subject and Is based solely on opinion.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Daisy finally agrees with you on something. . . The Reanimation Jutsu is just like any other Summoning Jutsu. You summon another entity onto the battlefield to assist you. Plain and simple. It's haxed as all hell, but it is what it is. It's legit and must be considered in any VS thread unless it gets barred by the OP. Plain and simple.

Summoning jutsu isn't part of a shinobi's power either. Although you do need chakra to summon the entity, you also need chakra to use Edo Tensei, have chakra to not be overwhelmed by negative chakra, et cetera et cetera.

I'm arguing that, purely on a shinobi's individual strength, Edo Tensei is not included. People in versus threads include Edo Tensei, but it's not theirs, which is 99.9% wrong. If I were starting a versus thread, I would not include Jinchurikiship, Edo Tensei, nor summon techniques in the description.

 

[Kaneki Kun]

It's excluded because you're raising dead people who retained their jutsu's to fight for you. If it's one on one then it defeats the purpose of 1 v 1. I personally exclude Kurama because he is his own entity that basically recharges Naruto while everyone else is stuck watching their chakra pool but apparently Kurama can be debated. Raising 5-10 people is not. Look at the story now. You have to seal them and even that takes a long time. Edo tensei is a no-no.

^^Ignorance at bliss. Then Ems for Sasuke shouldn't count since it's Itachi eyes, or Ems for Madara. Karuma is Naruto's power whether you like it or not they are 1. I agree Edo Tensei it's fair. People just don't like the fact it's overpowered.

 

[Itachi The Solo King]

Disagree... that's all i'm gonna say

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Dont matter

"Every technique has its weakness"

 

[Brd17]

I don't really mind usin edo tensei in lists....I just hate when people use edo forms in lists. And so6p/sons

 

[Sephy100]

^^Ignorance at bliss. Then Ems for Sasuke shouldn't count since it's Itachi eyes, or Ems for Madara. Karuma is Naruto's power whether you like it or not they are 1. I agree Edo Tensei it's fair. People just don't like the fact it's overpowered.

^^ Stupidity at its finest. Edo tensei is like fighting with a bully and you tell your friends to jump in. That's a ***** move and defeats the purpose of you even accepting a fight one on one to begin with. And when did I ever say that I give EMS to Sasuke or Madara un a 1 v 1 fight? Go back and show it to me. Kurama is not Naruto's power whether you want to believe or not is up to you. I really don't care.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I can see edos being part of someones fighting style just like puppets

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Summoning jutsu isn't part of a shinobi's power either. Although you do need chakra to summon the entity, you also need chakra to use Edo Tensei, have chakra to not be overwhelmed by negative chakra, et cetera et cetera.

I'm arguing that, purely on a shinobi's individual strength, Edo Tensei is not included. People in versus threads include Edo Tensei, but it's not theirs, which is 99.9% wrong. If I were starting a versus thread, I would not include Jinchurikiship, Edo Tensei, nor summon techniques in the description.

I fully agree with you on that point. I was only stating that if not barred by someone in a VS thread, it can't be complained about when someone uses it in an arguement, which is why when I make one (which is rare), I always barr that tecnique and put it in RED BOLD PRINT. And I agree that the Summoning Jutsu follows the same guidelines as the Reanimation Jutsu. The summoned entity DOES have a mind of its own, which just farther strengthens that point.

However, I'm not sure what you meant about Jinchuurikiship. Are you referring to Obito and his Jinchuuriki 6 Paths?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

However, I'm not sure what you meant about Jinchuurikiship. Are you referring to Obito and his Jinchuuriki 6 Paths?

Oh, I'm talking about using a tailed beast's chakra as one's own. While it requires chakra to not be taken over by it, using the power to fight with you is underhanded as well.

 

[Draphsin]

It's excluded because you're raising dead people who retained their jutsu's to fight for you. If it's one on one then it defeats the purpose of 1 v 1. I personally exclude Kurama because he is his own entity that basically recharges Naruto while everyone else is stuck watching their chakra pool but apparently Kurama can be debated. Raising 5-10 people is not. Look at the story now. You have to seal them and even that takes a long time. Edo tensei is a no-no.

This

Also to add, kabuto has only used edo's to fight FOR himself, not alongside himself in battle...

We dont even know if he can summon, and effectively use all of his edo's in battle. For 1, the edo's who arent being fully controlled can

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orders of the caster.

Also, the strong shinobi which kabuto possesses (pretty much all of them), have the ability to

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full control as well...

If kabuto was to pull out 30+ edos and fight along side them with SM, not only will some of them contradict orders, but others can even resist full control

I hate when people use kabuto's edos in a battle because they have no idea how it would even turn out (the edo's could end up fighting each other, releasing themselves from control via emotions, resisting and even contradicting kabuto's direct orders, etc....)

Way too many variables, and kabuto cant fight his enemy and control edo's simultaneously.

 

[Kaneki Kun]

^^ Stupidity at its finest. Edo tensei is like fighting with a bully and you tell your friends to jump in. That's a ***** move and defeats the purpose of you even accepting a fight one on one to begin with. And when did I ever say that I give EMS to Sasuke or Madara un a 1 v 1 fight? Go back and show it to me. Kurama is not Naruto's power whether you want to believe or not is up to you. I really don't care.

It takes skill to use Edo Tensei. You have to have a good chakra reserve in order to control the Edo's. But by your logic Sasuke shouldn't have EMS in a 1v1 since it's Itachi's eyes. Nice to know you have to cuss in a debate really shows how immature you are. Yet again ignorance at bliss.