[HA] Stone of Gelel

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Okay so boom, let's get this out the way. The Stone of Gele ability, in the "canon" (using that loosely since it's from a filler film) is an ore passed down through several generations that one family is capable of manipulating. Only members of their clan could use the ore as well as destroy it, keeping their secrets to themselves which is why it's a Hidden Ability in the RP.

If we were to go into theory crafting, one could argue the Stone has roots in Yang as it is a source of life energy, which is what is manipulated. Those with the Stones do not have access to Ninjutsu, no chakra networks and as such are immune to Genjutsu and cannot make use of any Ninja Fields. This life energy being manipulated is what Grant's their regenerative abilities and puts it on equal power as elemental Ninjutsu in clashes.

Each user can eventually access a form that allows them to become enhanced and use their Gelel energy on a higher level.

Because of all of this, Gelel users cannot use Ninjutsu, Genjutsu or anything chakra fueled. They also cannot be paired with anything except Samurai or Cyborgs. They are a HA so anyone can obtain one.

Any questions so far on this part (Abilities/Restrictions)?
 

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Sorry about the late reply.

How will Stone of Gelel work with things like SSS, or Chakra infused Kenjutsu, will we be able to merely substitute the chakra out for Gelel energy, or are we completely incapable of using any technique that any form of chakra requirement?

Also, Can other people absorb Gelel energy, like, Obviously Preta path could, but other possible methods of being absorbed, and if so, would Gelel energy have any negative affects on people who try to absorb it?

This is a bit of a once in a lifetime situation, but i still want to ask just to be on the safe side. Im assuming the Immunity to genjutsu extends to Tsyukoyomi and Yin Genjutsu, but does it also allow someone to be Immune to Izanagi and Izanami?

Will Gelel users be afflicted by techniques like Hungry Ghost or other parasytic type techniques that latch onto people?

How do Gelel users work with Technology such as ( Abusōbu Ude ) - Absorption Arm and ( Chakura Tu ) Chakra Blade? Are they also completely unable to use these as well?

Think that should do for now.
 

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Sorry about the late reply.

How will Stone of Gelel work with things like SSS, or Chakra infused Kenjutsu, will we be able to merely substitute the chakra out for Gelel energy, or are we completely incapable of using any technique that any form of chakra requirement?

Also, Can other people absorb Gelel energy, like, Obviously Preta path could, but other possible methods of being absorbed, and if so, would Gelel energy have any negative affects on people who try to absorb it?

This is a bit of a once in a lifetime situation, but i still want to ask just to be on the safe side. Im assuming the Immunity to genjutsu extends to Tsyukoyomi and Yin Genjutsu, but does it also allow someone to be Immune to Izanagi and Izanami?

Will Gelel users be afflicted by techniques like Hungry Ghost or other parasytic type techniques that latch onto people?

How do Gelel users work with Technology such as ( Abusōbu Ude ) - Absorption Arm and ( Chakura Tu ) Chakra Blade? Are they also completely unable to use these as well?

Think that should do for now.
1. Chakra based techniques are completely unusable. This means anything that uses chakra as sustainment or a way to power it will be void because Stone of Gelel users do not have a chakra network to use chakra with.

2. Preta Path and few other a utilities may be able to absorb it but things that absorb forms of chakra will be rendered incapable of absorption. There would be no negative side effects as far as I'm aware of it.

3-4. Yin based Genjutsu would likely not be rendered unusable because you still have spiritual energy and a soul, these would still directly affect you. Yang based abilities would as well. I believe MS level Gen would potentially work as well, though I'd discuss it with other mods before a final decision is ruled on that.

5. Smoke-Flash Bombs, Healing Foam, and I think Pressure Enhanced Muscles are among those usable, though others aren't, especially the two you named.
 

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Hello best buddies, I caught up on what's been posted so far. I don't particularly have many questions since we discussed on Discord about converters not being possible that eliminated a lot of the questions. I may have some about the actual techniques as we progress however.
 

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Yeah, like Rexii touched on, there are some restrictions on the types of techniques that can be created by Gelel techniques.

Since this energy is capable of creating constructs and energy that mimics elements, this allows you create psuedo elemental based customs ( Gelel Laser like techniques that mimic lightning for example ). Techniques designed to essentially transfer whole Jutsu lists with one technique will not be allowed ( I.e. convert chakra into Gelel energy, etc ). It is capable of replicating sound properties under the Destructive Sound waves through howls and yells, mostly in Awakened Beast form ( sound still needs to be logically made and animalistic forms that howl are easiest to use them ). This energy can also be explosive, being capable of causing explosions with it similar to Clay/Blast ( you have to channel it through a medium or create streams of explosions starting from you to the target, can't just spawn explosions ).

Since this is a really new field, it's easy to get quick ideas before rules and limitations get fleshed out so I'm trying to help curve it before it begins by sharing all the same info to users. Since the above will form the basis of most pure Gelel techniques, it's good to get it done and then the easy techniques to go over.

Any questions on concepts or w.e now?
 

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Honestly not really, I kinda get the general idea for the most part. Though I wonder how far can we deviate from what is already established technique wise in that case. So for example you say similar to blast it can explode, is this simply concussive force? A heat element? I assume from the laser and the explosions you could say Gelel energy could be seen to contain heated energy (since it has some basis in yang or life energy also) is it safe to assume then that you could make customs based on flames or heated energy? Say for example like in Iron Man 3 when they were expending life energy to fire superheated bio energy?
 

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Easiest the most simple of all of them, this is simply a large cloud of smoke that can be used as a cover. Qnything that is visual based will inherently be unable to pierce through it or locate anything within it. This includes but isn't limited to Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan, Tracking/Sensing Specialties, and more.

Essentially this will make it hard for the opponent to see or sense anything within it. Smell based as well as sound based hearing will still work within this smoke. I dont expect any questions but if you have any, ask away. I'll group similar ones next.


( Gereru Enmaku ) - Smokescreen
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description: While in their transformed form, the user can exhale a smokescreen from their mouth. The smokescreen is meant to be a diversion technique used against opponents, though it has no lasting effects beyond robbing the opponent of vision while preventing chakra and vision based Sensing from working. This smoke lasts for up to two turns as well as its effects.
 

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Easiest the most simple of all of them, this is simply a large cloud of smoke that can be used as a cover. Qnything that is visual based will inherently be unable to pierce through it or locate anything within it. This includes but isn't limited to Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan, Tracking/Sensing Specialties, and more.

Essentially this will make it hard for the opponent to see or sense anything within it. Smell based as well as sound based hearing will still work within this smoke. I dont expect any questions but if you have any, ask away. I'll group similar ones next.


( Gereru Enmaku ) - Smokescreen
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description: While in their transformed form, the user can exhale a smokescreen from their mouth. The smokescreen is meant to be a diversion technique used against opponents, though it has no lasting effects beyond robbing the opponent of vision while preventing chakra and vision based Sensing from working. This smoke lasts for up to two turns as well as its effects.
Only one question from me, how long does this last? Like do we assume it persists as hidden mist jutsu does, or will this be gone after a turn, etc.
 

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Arthorius need to learn how to read.

"This smoke lasts for up to two turns as well as its effects. "

No questions from me, it affects sight only, pretty self explanatory, might make a CJ that combo's with this just to **** up other sensory as well.

Not a question of my own, but one that got presented to me, and i was unsure. Can Gelel bios be claimed as Edo's?
 

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Pretty sure they can, idk rn.

The three techniques listed below operate in similar fashion; you use the energy of your stone and release bursts of energy in varied form. One creates a lightning like laser beam, one creates a burst of wind like a sound wave and another creates isolated explosions where aimed. Each of these can be compared directly to a Ninjutsu field but aren't any. Custom wise, this gives a lot of exploration room but it still cant mimic extremely unique properties, only those similar to the basic elements in the sense of heated bursts of energy, wind like constructs, or even solid/liquid like ones. Questions?

Gereru Tōboe ) - Gelel Howl
Type: Offensive
Rank: A
Range: Mid - Long
Chakra: 30
Damage: 60
Description: The user, while in his transformed state, can produce a loud howl that is strong enough to destroy objects and severely wound enemies. The user seemingly collects energy from the Gelel stone, stores it in his throat and releases it rapidly in the form of a powerful howl. Though this technique resembles Sound Ninjutsu, it is neither an elemental technique nor a Ninjutsu.

Gereru Bakufū ) - Gelel Blast
Type: Offensive
Rank: A
Range: Short - Long
Chakra: 30
Damage: 60
Description: With a piece of the Stone of Gelel embedded in them, the user can blast objects without the need to make physical contact with it. This ability allows him to release powerful explosions similar to Blast release from his hand, detonating things he aims at within a short range radius. He can inversely create a stream of explosions from his hand towards ranged targets. Though this technique shares similarities with Blast Release, this technique is not considered a Ninjutsu.

Gereru Rēza ) - Gelel Laser
Type: Offensive
Rank: S - Forbidden
Range: Mid - Long
Chakra: 40 - 50
Damage: 80 - 90
Description: This technique can only be used after the user has taken their Awakened Beast form. Through their new powers, the user is able to fire a giant bluish-green laser from where the stone is embedded. The blast is very powerful and can cause cause damage. By channeling the blast, the laser can be further augmented to fire a much larger Blast with a wider radius. This charged blast is of Forbidden power and triggers an explosion of 20 meters afterwards. Though the stream and explosion can resemble natural lightning, it does not utilize the chakra nature nor is it considered a Ninjutsu.
Note: Forbidden rank usage can only occur once every three turns and requires the Awakened Beasts technique to first be used.
 

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Pretty sure they can, idk rn.

The three techniques listed below operate in similar fashion; you use the energy of your stone and release bursts of energy in varied form. One creates a lightning like laser beam, one creates a burst of wind like a sound wave and another creates isolated explosions where aimed. Each of these can be compared directly to a Ninjutsu field but aren't any. Custom wise, this gives a lot of exploration room but it still cant mimic extremely unique properties, only those similar to the basic elements in the sense of heated bursts of energy, wind like constructs, or even solid/liquid like ones. Questions?

Gereru Tōboe ) - Gelel Howl
Type: Offensive
Rank: A
Range: Mid - Long
Chakra: 30
Damage: 60
Description: The user, while in his transformed state, can produce a loud howl that is strong enough to destroy objects and severely wound enemies. The user seemingly collects energy from the Gelel stone, stores it in his throat and releases it rapidly in the form of a powerful howl. Though this technique resembles Sound Ninjutsu, it is neither an elemental technique nor a Ninjutsu.

Gereru Bakufū ) - Gelel Blast
Type: Offensive
Rank: A
Range: Short - Long
Chakra: 30
Damage: 60
Description: With a piece of the Stone of Gelel embedded in them, the user can blast objects without the need to make physical contact with it. This ability allows him to release powerful explosions similar to Blast release from his hand, detonating things he aims at within a short range radius. He can inversely create a stream of explosions from his hand towards ranged targets. Though this technique shares similarities with Blast Release, this technique is not considered a Ninjutsu.

Gereru Rēza ) - Gelel Laser
Type: Offensive
Rank: S - Forbidden
Range: Mid - Long
Chakra: 40 - 50
Damage: 80 - 90
Description: This technique can only be used after the user has taken their Awakened Beast form. Through their new powers, the user is able to fire a giant bluish-green laser from where the stone is embedded. The blast is very powerful and can cause cause damage. By channeling the blast, the laser can be further augmented to fire a much larger Blast with a wider radius. This charged blast is of Forbidden power and triggers an explosion of 20 meters afterwards. Though the stream and explosion can resemble natural lightning, it does not utilize the chakra nature nor is it considered a Ninjutsu.
Note: Forbidden rank usage can only occur once every three turns and requires the Awakened Beasts technique to first be used.
Honestly no questions here, these are sort of just the basis for all Gelel techs using the stone, they mimic elemental jutsu but use no chakra, so they presumably can't be absorbed by fuuinjutsu or dark release or the like, giving them an edge against people who may specialise in fields like that. These are really useful techs especially in regards to giving a basis for customs. Which is ideal.
 

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( Gereru no Ishi: Tachinaoru Kesseki ) - Stone of Gelel: Recovered Stones
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra: 60
Damage: N/A
Description: Taking the place of a jutsu per turn, the user is able to make use of the healing abilities of the Stone of Gelel and apply them at a greater level, allowing the user to heal large injuries, such as shattered bones, ruptured organs, even regeneration of missing limbs. This requires a large amount of energy and as such can only be done up to 3 times a battle. This can only be used once every 2 turns and heals up to 60 ( or up to A rank ) damage.

Another simple technique to understand, you use the Gelel energy to heal damage inflicted to you. Keep in mind this heals your actual body, not the cybernetic parts if you have a Cyborg combination with it. It can only be used 3 times in total so if done right, you can heal a total of 180 damage. Full disclaimer, this might be lowered in damage healed when I account for the rest of healing abilities and where this would fall on that list in terms of scaling.

( Gereru no Ishi: Mezameru Kemono ) - Stone of Gelel: Awakened Beasts
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra: 80
Damage: N/A
Description: The user accesses the shard of the Stone of Gelel within them, triggering an animalistic, humanoid transformation likened to Curse Mark, enabling it to increase their physical abilities as well as their mastery of Gelel based techniques. Though these changes alter physically from user to user, the general benefits associated with this technique are shared amongst all users. The user gains a tripled speed alongside an increase in Gelel based techniques by 20 damage as well as an increase to their Body Arts techniques by 25 damage. While in this state, the user is able to access Stone of Gelel techniques that are more powerful such as the Howl and Recovered Stones. At the cost of a move per turn, the user is capable of healing nearly any injury by spending 120 chakra. This healing can extend to healing limbs such as a completely blown away chest, broken and shattered limbs or fully regrowing his body after bifurcation. After using, the user can only use one other jutsu the same turn. This can only be used a total of 3 times and once every 4 turns. As long as their head is attached/they have consciousness, this jutsu can be used. This state is also capable of reducing 30 damage from attacks. The transformations have to respect the logic and reasonability of Narutoverse and must be defined and explained within the biography.
Note: Lasts for 6 turns per use and can be used 3 times total.
Note: After use, the user cannot make use of any Gelel based techniques for 2 turns.

Perhaps the strongest and most useful of them all, this technique causes you to transform into an animalistic beast that increases your speed, raises your damage abilities as well as damage shaving capabilities. The biggest update to the users skills is the healing abilities. Much like the note I made above, this may be edited as well, notably the overall usage count. If you haven't detailed your transformed state in your bio, write it here now and I'll update the bio to make note of it as the form should be consistent throughout it.
 

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Ah okay, I understand both of these fine, honestly Gelel isn't particularly complex outside of perhaps some functions of the core concept of it "not being chakra". The techniques themselves are really simple, the healing amount doesn't seem too high, but if you decide it needs to be altered I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any edits. I detailed my transformation in my bio already, so I'm all good.
 

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First one is simple, its very similar to Hashirama regen, so no questions from me

No issues with the transformation, its similar to SM, but specific to gelel, simple to understand.

I never detailed my transformation in words, but i put a picture next to the technique. Plus, i have a Grimmjow bio, if people dont know what my transformation is they need to be put in the bin XD
 
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