Spoiler: Izanagi and Izanami DO NOT need senju dna

[LionDemon]

We have no proof of what Izanami totally, in shape of form is yet,
so 50/50 on this one.

 

[squigles]

What if Tobi is Uzumaki bloodline??? That would explain his long life and the fact that he has a ton of Uchiha eyes in his lab...For example, say if the Leaf betrayed and use the Uzumaki clan like they did the Uchiha clan, that would make Naruto and Suskae story parallel...If Tobi where uchiha he would not have needed Nagato's eyes he would have activated his rinnegan like the true Madara did...so i think its clear that Tobi is not True Uchiha...but its all speculation at the end of the day...just a calculated guess

Tobi is more than likely Uchiha because of his attitude and motives. Tobi is more than likely closely related to Madara because of his attitude and motives.

If Tobi were to activate Rinnegan, he would have needed a brother to get EMS from first. A lot of you forget that EMS requires that you take your brothers eyes, specifically his MS eyes.

EMS is the melding of two different MS eyes. Rinnegan is what comes after.

I discussed earlier in another thread how it makes the most sense that Izuna Uchiha is Tobi. I've also discussed how it's not likely that ANY uchiha techniques would require Senju DNA.

 

[Nokturn]

I totally agree with everything Blaze said. Alot of people tend to forget the the Uchiha are blessed with strong chakra and bodies which is why Kakashi MS drains him so much. That's why I believe Tobi is the 1st born of the Rikudou sennin! He's the father of all Uchiha and being the six paths son would also share senju Dna. If anyone can find a way to extend their life that long it's him.

 

[Wakizashi]

your theory makes sense.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

1. Naruto manga is published in JAPANESE language.

2. The only time it's published in ENGLISH is months/years after it's already been published in Japan.

3. If you're buying it WHEN IT FIRST GETS PUBLISHED, you're getting it in Japanese, and unless you can read Japanese, you're having to have it translated before you can read it.

4. Those translations are completely dependent on the understanding of the Japanese language and the context by which Japanese people construct their communications.

5. You're basically trying to tell me that you went and read the manga as soon as it was translated and posted here by fans, and that you ALSO went out and bought an English published version, at the same time, which has absolutely ZERO discrepancies between the fan sub and the one you bought.

6. You're full of shit, you're an idiot, and you miss the point completely.

1. You're a moron who doesn't know that you can buy a manga in a book store.

2.

Except that Kishi doesn't write the English translations for the Manga. Some wackadoodle fan does.

So until you get a hold of the Japanese version of the manga, learn japanese above a 1st grade level, and translate it for yourself, you won't know what Kishi actually said.

And I am ****ing tired of all these people claiming 'the mana said so' when your reference is to a version of the manga that was most likely translated poorly to begin with.

Get a ****ing clue.

You are full of sh!t.
You're saying the manga isn't translated right,and people shouldn't say "cause the manga said so". When the manga (sold in stores) are translated correctly.
3.
In order to sell something it have to be correct. Barnes n Noble won't sell something that full of errors.

4.
The manga is translated by someone that can speak japanese and English.

5.
I never said that when the "fan" manga release on narutobase or other sites,its in stores too. Of course it takes months to release a manga in english to be in stores in the US. The one you see on narutobase was done by someone that can read/speak japanese too but not so well...

6.
Thats why I prefer sites like *********** (but they stop showing Naruto mangas) which have no errors at times like the ones you see on mangareaders . When it does come out in stores of course I buy it,cause I like to collect mangas and other books so I can re-read them. Now the ones in store are reworded but still means the samething. They won't change the information cause that would mean they are changing the story in the manga,and they can get sued by the author. Thats why the ones being sold have to be correct and go by the author information.

7. In case you didn't know Viz Media: headquartered in San Francisco, is an anime, manga , and Japanese entertainment company. They won't make any errors on Naruto mangas....So like I said before "Yes,the manga said so".


:scorps: Fool.

 

[King Volcano]

Hm...I really like this theory. The idea of Tobi not being an actual Uchiha is actually something that can be true, but I guess we'll just have to find out

 

[SasukeXUchiha]

I remember the mention of Sejun DNA only needed (along with EMS) for the Jutsu to be used with no backfire, meaning not losing an eye. I'll try to find the source, but I'm sure I've seen it.

 

[BlightBoy]

I always think of Itachi is onethe genius type , he would learn much about the sharingan to know about Izanami and Izanagi , they don't need to tell you that how he got the senju dna.

Also calling it uchiha tech , can be because you need a sharingan to use it ,or he can say that uchiha were the first to find the way of using it by having the senju dna for that its uchiha forbidden tech.

Anyway they won't need to prove how itachi can use this tech or even sasuke when he finds out but they maybe tell us how he found out (Don't forget that suigetsu found something for sasuke to make him stronger , and that secret was in orichimaru secret spot ,it can be about using izanaagi or izanami).

 

[~Dream~]

Agree and possible.

 

[crazydon]

did tobi actually loose his sight after using iznagi????
sop6 used izanagi a countless times without loosing his eyes.....any theoies....i belive if u have control over ur senju and uchiha powers then u wont loose ur eye sight....i belive tobi has it and his time space justsu has some thing to do with it.....everyone plz commend
....

 

[darkhaze]

..your theories has a point..

IZANAGI a technique that can release, even if u are an outsider if you have possesses UCHIHA DNA and HASHIRAMA's DNA..

probably TOBI had A hashirama DNA too..
he used IZANAGI when he was fighting against CONAN..

and I think IZANAMI JUTSU can be use by
TRUE UCHIHA without using hashirama's DNA...

ITACHI SAID "IT'S ALREADY PREPARED" it means he already used it. at Manga 581..

 

[GIVEUPONME]

i dont really know well just have to wait and see

 

[ladbad]

makes sense!

agree......

 

[MarkPaul]

Interesting and possible.

 

[MrKabutobi]

I always knew that and i always thaught people know that

 

[Reauner]

Or Izanami is a trick of Itachi to scare Kabuto.. or just Izanami do not need senju dna.. or Izanami and Izanagi do not need senju dna.. Tobi have 1st hokage dna. proof: the fluid from his arm .

 

[Doraff]

Well explained but I do not agree. You are basing off a hint that because it is called an Uchiha kinjutsu it can thus be used by Uchiha's not possesing Hashirama's DNA. But let me ask you a question. What else would they call it? It is a sharingan technique so of course it is going to be labeled an Uchiha Technique (no other clan had the sharingan) and I think just calling it an Uchiha technique is not enough evidence to claim that Uchiha's could use the technique without Hashirama DNA but I can see where you would get this idea from. Again, what else would they call it Uzumaki secret technique. If it is a sharingan only technique of course they are going to call it an Uchiha technique.

I think stronger evidence is pointed out by the fact that Tobi blatantly said in order to use Izanagi one must have BOTH Senju and Uchiha DNA. That being said I think Itachi, the genius, will have come up with some way to utilize Hashirama DNA since 1. He's a genius, and 2. He said It's already prepared.

Unless of course Tobi is not an Uchiha as you said in this thread then he is Tobirama and I am super excited - of course this is not possible but I'm just sayin. xd

You, kind sir, deserve some +rep . Good job at pointing that out.

 

[ghost nappa]

Hey Vegeta, what does the scouter say about this threads viewer count?

 

[arv993]

We just have to wait and see, but if the technique has been labelled a forbidden uchiha technique that clearly hints that uchiha's in the past have used it and its now forbidden, which hints that true uchiha's dont need senju dna

yea his was the main reason i used to believe that uchihas dont require senju dna.

 

[Hitoshi]

The whole needing senju dna to do izanagi i think thats bull crap i mean come on just listen to who talked about it tobi= cronic liar like who the f is that no namer and a dead old guy name danzo