[Theory] Spiral Lives

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I kind of rushed out this thread. Kishi opens and closes the Manga with two panels filled with symbolism. A lot of this symbolism was not apparent when Kishi at first glance but the significance of these symbols has been developed within the story.

When I talk about Ninjutsu being used to seal Kurama by Minamoto I am referring to the arch highlighted here:
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This is the same arch that is used to seal Kurama by Naruto. This technique is recognised by Kurama as belonging to the Sage of Six Paths:
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Hashirama also uses this seal to contain Obito
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… the Juubi:
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… and Madara:
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The symbolism of the fox hints at something Itachi might have learned during his research as a child:
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When Itachi confronts his little brother in order to free him from the influence of Orochimaru we see the symbolism of the Fox illustrated on the wall behind Itachi (the Symbol at the centre of the flames means Fox):
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This symbol appears again and again during the brother’s fight:
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I think that this symbol has greater importance in the celestial battle for the power of the Bijuu. Hagoromo’s last wish was for Naruto to serve as a hub for the Bijuu:
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I think that the as yet unrevealed bad guy (the “Demon”) has other intentions. In Black Zetsu’s base the Gedo Mazo (Hagoromo’s body) is sealed in front of a symbol that signifies the containment of the bijuu within an even bigger bijuu (the Tenth Circle enclosing the 9 smaller ones – note the parallels in the design):
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The Tenth Circle is, I think, the Rabbit Bijuu, that we are yet to find out the backstory for. I’m hoping Part 3 starts with a short introduction to Naruto and the gang’s kids before we get a new arc – the same way part two started with Kakshi Gaiden introducing us to Obito way back when…
Rabbit Bijuu:
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Anyway that’s all folks. I expect the story will continue if Kishi wants it to. He has definitely left the door open for a Part 3 like I hoped. Somebody still seems to be after Sasuke … and I don’t know how long this time skip is but it must be about time for somebody to Transmigrate into a new body ... Kuku.
 
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But what is contra your theory is that spiral tries to reach his arm out to yamato.

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Come on, you really think that panel with spiral shows him living? It is painfully obvious that it shows him dying. He doesn't turn into a tree, he disintegrated, most likely because IT was undone and there is no more gedo mazou. The reason is besides the point though, he clearly is crumbling away, he is dead.
 

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Come on, you really think that panel with spiral shows him living? It is painfully obvious that it shows him dying. He doesn't turn into a tree, he disintegrated, most likely because IT was undone and there is no more gedo mazou. The reason is besides the point though, he clearly is crumbling away, he is dead.
Hey, I know it's not much but it is what I'd call a teaser. Kishi wrapped up a lot of stories and even gave us Naruto as Hokage. What he didn't do was provide closure for whatever happened to the remaining characters with suspicious motives. I say characters but really it's more like one character… Orochimaru. Spiral was given the Cursed Seal before he froze up which makes him a subordinate:
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I don't think it's that much of a stretch to suggest that Sasuke is about to be jumped. The forrest that Sasuke walks into as he is about to draw his sword looks exactly like Spiral, here's a side by side…
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Sasuke into heading into the woods (Cursed Seal Spiral?):
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That is what I'd call a teaser. Kishi no doubt needs a break but if he want's to return to the story then I think this is where he'd begin. Given the success of Naruto I have no doubt he'd find a publisher (WSJ or somebody else) whenever he wants to comeback to Naruto. Oro is still out there somewhere busy with his experiments. He made it pretty clear that the only way to stop him is to kill Sasuke.
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Spiral didn't turn into a tree he withered away... Geezus, I can't even continue reading after that.
we didn't see the complet scene of into what spiral zetsu turned.....the other white zetsu turned into a tree....spiral zetsu is a zetsu so logically he will turn into a tree too...THE OP IS RIGHT OR AT LEAST MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!
 

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SZ tried to survive, which is depicted in him reaching out with a hand. In the end, he unraveled and dissolved like the rest of the pods.
 

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Rabbit teth do not listen to the h8ers....spiral zetsu's character isn't finished off......

-the latest databook called him tobi....the databook itself launched the mystery of the goofy tobi and spiral zetsu..
 

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we didn't see the complet scene of into what spiral zetsu turned.....the other white zetsu turned into a tree....spiral zetsu is a zetsu so logically he will turn into a tree too...THE OP IS RIGHT OR AT LEAST MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!
The other zetsu didn't turn into a tree. A tree rose from the remains of a zetsu the represent the passing of Hashirama and Madara. It also represented a new beginning from the ashes of old grudges. It was purely symbolic. The only zetsu's that turned into trues were once Naruto killed in KCM. So it's not logical to assume all zetsu turn into trees. It's also illogical to assume zetsu's would still exist w/o mezzo or the divine tree. Furthermore, we've never seen a zetsu break away and unravel like that, it clearly wasn't going phasing into the ground like they normally do.

This theory is quite far away from "perfect sense".
 

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The other zetsu didn't turn into a tree. A tree rose from the remains of a zetsu the represent the passing of Hashirama and Madara. It also represented a new beginning from the ashes of old grudges. It was purely symbolic. The only zetsu's that turned into trues were once Naruto killed in KCM. So it's not logical to assume all zetsu turn into trees. It's also illogical to assume zetsu's would still exist w/o mezzo or the divine tree. Furthermore, we've never seen a zetsu break away and unravel like that, it clearly wasn't going phasing into the ground like they normally do.

This theory is quite far away from "perfect sense".
the mokuton reacts to the chakra beasts and breathes life into it....the same thing happned to one of the white zetsus....he turned into a tree !!!!!!.....same thing might happen to spiral zetsu....
 

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the mokuton reacts to the chakra beasts and breathes life into it....the same thing happned to one of the white zetsus....he turned into a tree !!!!!!.....same thing might happen to spiral zetsu....
Ok first of all, no they don't react the "chakra beasts", the react to Naruto's KCM chakra specifically. Bee didn't turn any zetsu's into tree did he? Secondly, spiral didn't turn into a freaking tree, he withered away. There's no branches growing from him, he's shrinking.

Lastly if he did turn into a tree... he's still be friggin dead in all aspects that matter.
 
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Ok first of all, no they don't react the "chakra beasts", the react to Naruto's KCM chakra specifically. Bee didn't turn any zetsu's into tree did he? Secondly, spiral didn't turn into a freaking tree, he withered away. There's no branches growing from him, he's shrinking.

Lastly if he did turn into a tree... he's still be friggin dead in all aspects that matter.
my point here isnt about kcm and tailed beast chakra...i know mokuton growed branches becuz naruto was in Naruto's KCM mode but KCM chakra comes from kiyubi chakra WHO IS A GODDAMN TAILED BEAST!!!!......the zetu also turned into a tree....the chakra affecting mokoton BREEATHED LIFE INTO IT wich is symbol of revival!!!....if the zetsu turned into a tree there is no manga evidence that proves it happned becuz he is dead....he just turned into a goddamn tree!!...HE IS A LIVING ZETSU TREE !!...
 

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my point here isnt about kcm and tailed beast chakra...i know mokuton growed branches becuz naruto was in Naruto's KCM mode but KCM chakra comes from kiyubi chakra WHO IS A GODDAMN TAILED BEAST!!!!......the zetu also turned into a tree....the chakra affecting mokoton BREEATHED LIFE INTO IT wich is symbol of revival!!!....if the zetsu turned into a tree there is no manga evidence that proves it happned becuz he is dead....he just turned into a goddamn tree!!...HE IS A LIVING ZETSU TREE !!...
There is a big difference between saying chakra beasts and kurama specifically, because Bee's chakra didn't have the same effect. The fact you ignore important points like these and dwell on hunches is why most of your theories are failures.

He can either be a tree or zetsu. He can't be both. One is sentient being with a will, the other is an immobile plant. In spiral's case he's neither, cuz he shriviled up and died. There is no indication he was growing into a tree at all.
 

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So the Manga is finished but there were two things that I wanted to point out.

First - Spiral Lives

Yep… In case you hadn't noticed, Spiral turns into a tree in 699 (also note Yamato still has spooky eyes):
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Later in 700 Sasuke gets spooked by a tree:
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It's not much but it's hope for a continuation in Part 3.

Second - The New Age of Ninshuu

The first chapter opened with a a symbolic representation of the Fox as a great Evil contained by Ninjutsu - what Minato used to seal Kurama into Naruto and as represented by the Star:
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The final chapter showed the Fox freed at last by the power of Ninshuu (with Kaguya now on top of the Star that is now sealed and the Sharinnegan at its centre):
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Naruto represents Ninshuu and evil Sasuke represented Ninjutsu - Sasuke's Star from Cursed Seal Mode Stage 2 (the mark on his face)
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I thought it was a nice touch to finish on and that perhaps not everybody would notice it.

You have keen eyes, mister.
 

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There is a big difference between saying chakra beasts and kurama specifically, because Bee's chakra didn't have the same effect. The fact you ignore important points like these and dwell on hunches is why most of your theories are failures.

He can either be a tree or zetsu. He can't be both. One is sentient being with a will, the other is an immobile plant. In spiral's case he's neither, cuz he shriviled up and died. There is no indication he was growing into a tree at all.
keep ignoring facts...thats not my problem..also my theories makes 100 billion sense then your bull$hit opinions....the only thing you are skilled in is stalking minamoto and harass him whenever he makes an amazing thread....CONV IS OVER ..i wont replay a stalker!!
 

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keep ignoring facts...thats not my problem..also my theories makes 100 billion sense then your bull$hit opinions....the only thing you are skilled in is stalking minamoto and harass him whenever he makes an amazing thread....CONV IS OVER ..i wont replay a stalker!!
As usual, when left w/ no actual response you resort you name calling. So pathetic.
 
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