Speed Misconception!

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When there's higher gravity, and you're goal is to thrust downward harder/faster,
the gravity will only benefit you, because your mission is to get down faster
which the stronger gravity will pull you too.

As opposed to the other person who's goal is to fly upward, they'll literally
have to fight against the gravity.

How do people even use the gravity argument for Sasuke, when it should actually
benefit him more than harm.
I honestly dont know
 

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Because it takes strength to just keep standing. Your argument might work if Sasuke were simply throwing himself straight downward, but when it is a controlled attack lunging forward as well as downwards the gravity hinders your speed as u try to keep from falling over.
But theres just one problem sasuke wasnt using body movement speed he teleported so the only thing that was needed was his striking attack which benefited him cuz he was striking downwards
 

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Kaguya didn't move in the gravity dimension, she only moved after the switch. As for the movie, Sasuke's job was to be the distraction to give Boruto's clone an opening. :|



Yeah that was my point. If u know the room is going to shift then u can adjust better than the others that didn't know and got caught off guard
What are you talking about? The gravity wasn't holding sasuke down, Kaguya seemed to lighten the gravity to correct her ash bones aim. He would've stumbled or fall towards kaguya if he was under heavy gravity. plus sasuke would've made note of being slowed down by the gravity....
 

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Sasuke's taijutsu speed and reaction > naruto's
Sasuke landed more hits on momoshiki than naruto
Sasuke healed himself from momoshiki's attack without naruto.
Sasuke with one hand = naruto
Sasuke with two hands ....

Stay rusty.
Maybe u blind. Sasuke was landing hits when naruto was fighting along side him so momo wasnt worried for one person only. Notice when sasuke attacked alone he got negged. And nice fan fic how can sasuke heal himself when hes knocked unconcious and narutos kyuubi cloack appeared on him. You tried though.

And sasuke with one hand = rusty naruto
 

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You do realize if she moved after the switch it also means it was easier for sasuke to strike also since they werent in the gravity dimension either right? Even so my point still stands the same way she dodged sasuke by changing dimensions she couldve done the same thing to escape naruto but she couldnt react. Yes i know sasuke needed to keep momoshiki busy but you cant say he allowed himself to get hit lol he couldve harmed momoshiki then hell be more unable to keep up and would make it easier for boruto to attack
The switch would have better effected Sasuke if he knew the switch was coming. U can refer to my post to the person above you to see why the sudden shift in gravity without warning would just throw a person off.

As for using the dimension switch on Naruto, she was nearly out of chakra remember. She didn't have enough chakra for another switch. She couldn't even use another Ash Bone.

Think about it what would have happened if Boruto's clone hit the ground while Momo's back was turned????

There is a chance that Momo's choice of defending would have been different than catching Boruto in his hand. Instead he may have kicked Boruto. Sasuke planned on Momo catching Boruto and for that Sasuke needed Momo to turn around after Momo finished dealing with Sasuke.
 

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What are you talking about? The gravity wasn't holding sasuke down, Kaguya seemed to lighten the gravity to correct her ash bones aim. He would've stumbled or fall towards kaguya if he was under heavy gravity. plus sasuke would've made note of being slowed down by the gravity....
If im not mistaking in that panel didnt kaguya already changed the dimension before dodging?
 

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What are you talking about? The gravity wasn't holding sasuke down, Kaguya seemed to lighten the gravity to correct her ash bones aim. He would've stumbled or fall towards kaguya if he was under heavy gravity. plus sasuke would've made note of being slowed down by the gravity....
The gravity was holding everyone down. Well until Kishi decided to break logic somehow and have Kakashi and Obito move. At that point both Sasuke and Naruto were unable to move. That is y they needed meat shields.:lol

Besides y does Sasuke need to explain the obv? If you look at that entire chapter everyone has lines around them to show the shaking that they are doing from strain.
 

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The switch would have better effected Sasuke if he knew the switch was coming. U can refer to my post to the person above you to see why the sudden shift in gravity without warning would just throw a person off.

As for using the dimension switch on Naruto, she was nearly out of chakra remember. She didn't have enough chakra for another switch. She couldn't even use another Ash Bone.

Think about it what would have happened if Boruto's clone hit the ground while Momo's back was turned????

There is a chance that Momo's choice of defending would have been different than catching Boruto in his hand. Instead he may have kicked Boruto. Sasuke planned on Momo catching Boruto and for that Sasuke needed Momo to turn around after Momo finished dealing with Sasuke.
Ok now thats just little too much lol. Its not gonna throw him off its gonna lighten him to strike better and if it had thrown him off it would show him striking at a different position but it showed him striking the same area he was intending.

As for momo reacting to ameno. Like i said sasuke isnt just throwing himself out to get hit lol he was a distraction yes but lol thats like wanting to get killed what if momo decided to pierce him instead? I doubt sasuke would let him just cuz he was acting as a decoy he wouldnt try to get hit. As for boruto of course he wouldnt just attack without reading the situation he would attack when theres an opening.
 

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The gravity was holding everyone down. Well until Kishi decided to break logic somehow and have Kakashi and Obito move. At that point both Sasuke and Naruto were unable to move. That is y they needed meat shields.:lol

Besides y does Sasuke need to explain the obv? If you look at that entire chapter everyone has lines around them to show the shaking that they are doing from strain.
They were all shaking at the beginning cuz the gravity was heavy even kaguya was shaking she probably fixed it thats why everyone else seemed fine after like u said kakashi moving freely lol
 

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But theres just one problem sasuke wasnt using body movement speed he teleported so the only thing that was needed was his striking attack which benefited him cuz he was striking downwards
Think about it if you are going to strike someone below r you just going to throw your self at them? Cuz that is kinda what u r saying :lol A force pulling u downwards would only make u more cautious that u don't fall.

They were all shaking at the beginning cuz the gravity was heavy even kaguya was shaking she probably fixed it thats why everyone else seemed fine after like u said kakashi moving freely lol
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Think about it if you are going to strike someone below r you just going to throw your self at them? Cuz that is kinda what u r saying :lol A force pulling u downwards would only make u more cautious that u don't fall.



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Same chapter, after Kaguya had fixed the gravity.
I know a force pulling you downward would make u more cautious but its still easier to strike aint it?

And so in that same chapter the gravity was fixed when sasuke attacked her?
 

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The gravity was holding everyone down. Well until Kishi decided to break logic somehow and have Kakashi and Obito move. At that point both Sasuke and Naruto were unable to move. That is y they needed meat shields.:lol

Besides y does Sasuke need to explain the obv? If you look at that entire chapter everyone has lines around them to show the shaking that they are doing from strain.
Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking part. But i assumed the only part where there was heavy gravity was sasuke & naruto's area because kaguya shot the ash bones toward them. Note that the ash bone was above naruto and sasuke who were both on the ground.
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I thought she wanted the ash bone to curve down to naruto and sasuke since their spot had heavy gravity but meh.
If im not mistaking in that panel didnt kaguya already changed the dimension before dodging?
She dodged it the second sasuke had the chidori next to her face.
 

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Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking part. But i assumed the only part where there was heavy gravity was sasuke & naruto's area because kaguya shot the ash bones toward them. Note that the ash bone was above naruto and sasuke who were both on the ground.
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I thought she wanted the ash bone to curve down to naruto and sasuke since their spot had heavy gravity but meh.

She dodged it the second sasuke had the chidori next to her face.
If Kaguya could narrow the gravity to only Sasuke and Naruto then y would she allow herself to be effected as well :wut:
Also, Kaguya couldn't get off her knees in the gravity dimension in the scan of her dodging it shows her switching dimensions first.

I know a force pulling you downward would make u more cautious but its still easier to strike aint it?

And so in that same chapter the gravity was fixed when sasuke attacked her?
That is y I called Kakashi and Obito moving a plot hole that was somehow made possible by Retcon Rin :wesobi:

And no its not really easier because the threat of falling is more apparent, but logically u should fall on your butt once the gravity was reversed.
 
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Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking part. But i assumed the only part where there was heavy gravity was sasuke & naruto's area because kaguya shot the ash bones toward them. Note that the ash bone was above naruto and sasuke who were both on the ground.
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I thought she wanted the ash bone to curve down to naruto and sasuke since their spot had heavy gravity but meh.

She dodged it the second sasuke had the chidori next to her face.
So she dodged it after she changed dimension
 

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Think about it if you are going to strike someone below r you just going to throw your self at them? Cuz that is kinda what u r saying :lol A force pulling u downwards would only make u more cautious that u don't fall.



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Sasuke used ameno which teleported him to mid air above Kaguya. Increased gravity would have just made him strike Kaguya faster. That's a rather weak and pathetic excuse to tbfh
 

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People believe Naruto and Sasuke used shunshin in the panel below, it isn't. Body Flicker makes the user appear if they teleported, no footsteps are left behind.

Below is Naruto and Sasuke's base footspeed as evident from the ground they ignited from moving at extreme speed. You can also see their bodies whilst moving.

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Yes people, Naruto and Sasuke base speed is godly now. However Naruto and Sasuke can take it a step further with Body Flicker and Ameno.

I simply had to clarify things because people believe it was shunshin and that sasuke's was on par with Naruto.:lmao:

Naruto's shunshin >>>>>> Sasuke's, it blitzed even goddess kaguya whilst ameno couldn't. :Sparks:
Awful thread..

Base speed?? Naruto is in RSM, how the hell is that base speed? You're just pissy that Sasuke was just as fast and just as strong as RSM Naruto.. And Sasuke Taijutsu was better..

Just admit Sasuke is a BEAST!!!!
 

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Awful thread..

Base speed?? Naruto is in RSM, how the hell is that base speed? You're just pissy that Sasuke was just as fast and just as strong as RSM Naruto.. And Sasuke Taijutsu was better..

Just admit Sasuke is a BEAST!!!!
Awful response Naruto is in RSM doesnt mean hes using his speed thats a low way to judge it. And we all know naruto RSM physical strenght is better idk why go there. And his taijutsu was better? Why cuz he landed hits? Even though naruto was setting and covering him with attacks like grabbing momo while sasuke strikes? We all know Frog kata > sasukes taijutsu so lets not even go there as to say he did good in taijutsu as if he fought him alone when he got destroyed by kinshiki. We all saw what happened when naruto isnt fighting along side him.

Sasuke is a BEAST

But do not try to use movie scenes to justify sasuke in areas manga has clearly shown where they excel in their respective areas.
 

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So she dodged it after she changed dimension
Seems so.
If Kaguya could narrow the gravity to only Sasuke and Naruto then y would she allow herself to be effected as well :wut:
Also, Kaguya couldn't get off her knees in the gravity dimension in the scan of her dodging it shows her switching dimensions first.
That's why she adjusted the gravity and she just stood there. Probably to recover chakra since she was low on it. If not then why would she shoot the ash bones so high??
 
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