[Theory] Speculation surrounding "Rikudou Naruto"

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If Sasuke unlocks ESD which is Sage Mode combined with his EMS I believe?

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Naruto has a mirror'd Jubi+Rinnegan along with his Sage Mode

Wouldnt Naruto outclass Sasuke?

I mean even Naruto at that state would be too strong for Sasuke to even handle along with them being equals n such?
 

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I just wanted to chime in and says that the move Madara used against the Bijuu is not called Rinbo Hengoku, it is called Limbo Hengoku. The same move that he was saying that he should use against Obito, but then decided not to. It was not translated correctly in the scans, the official Viz says Limbo Hengoku when he uses it against the Bijuu, and just Limbo when he is talking about using it against Obito. So basically that technique can be used against a small enemy also, which means it can be scaled down like adeshina was saying.
 

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Naruto with rinnegan isn't controvertial, It is Fan-Fiction. It can never happen.

As for Yin Kurama becoming the Pseudo Juubi, it's possible, though unlikely. I dont see why naruto's bijuu chakra wouldnt have been absorbed when the Mazo was doing what it does best, Sucking up Bijuu Chakra
 

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Naruto with rinnegan isn't controvertial, It is Fan-Fiction. It can never happen.

As for Yin Kurama becoming the Pseudo Juubi, it's possible, though unlikely. I dont see why naruto's bijuu chakra wouldnt have been absorbed when the Mazo was doing what it does best, Sucking up Bijuu Chakra

@bold. There is a possibility. We'll just have to wait and see.

Naruto becoming pseudo juubi jin is not unlikely. Obito very conveniently pulled the Ichibi and Hachibi ( the only beasts that didn't share chakra with Naruto). I don't think that's a coincidence.
 
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The pseudo Juubi mode and Rinnegan would only be temporary for Naruto, its not a lasting power up.
 

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I'll go devil's advocate on this one and call fanboy wank thread. There is absolutely no foreshadowing Naruto will get Rinnegan, and if Madara pulled out the Kyuubi chakra, why would Naruto have chakra from the other TB?

"and the added chakra of EIGHT Tailed beasts"

Why? Madara probably already yanked this out. It seems unbelievable Madara wouldn't sense that TB chakra in Naruto and pull it out at the same time... Like really, 100% unbelievable.

I think the rest about Rinnegan and a new mode are all baseless speculation. If Naruto is lucky he'll get KCM back. That's all the Yin kyuubi granted Naruto. I'd predict he's probably lost BM for the foreseeable future. Let's also not forget Naruto's body is heavily weakened right now.

It'd be bad writing even for Kishimoto to have Naruto just get up at 100% and have a new mode lol
 
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^ Then tell me why would Obito pull ONLY the Icihibi and Hachibi? Every other bijuu shared chakra with Naruto. If you think that's just a coincidence fine. But you'll be disappointed in the next chapters.
 

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I'll go devil's advocate on this one and call fanboy wank thread. There is absolutely no foreshadowing Naruto will get Rinnegan, and if Madara pulled out the Kyuubi chakra, why would Naruto have chakra from the other TB?

"and the added chakra of EIGHT Tailed beasts"

Why? Madara probably already yanked this out. It seems unbelievable Madara wouldn't sense that TB chakra in Naruto and pull it out at the same time... Like really, 100% unbelievable.

I think the rest about Rinnegan and a new mode are all baseless speculation. If Naruto is lucky he'll get KCM back. That's all the Yin kyuubi granted Naruto. I'd predict he's probably lost BM for the foreseeable future. Let's also not forget Naruto's body is heavily weakened right now.

It'd be bad writing even for Kishimoto to have Naruto just get up at 100% and have a new mode lol

You answered yourself. Madara pulled the Kyuubi's chakra, not others chakra.

Thinking that Obito would pull Ichibi/Hachibi by coincidence would be bad writting. Everything Kishimoto does has a purpose, it's better if you remember that.
 

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If Sasuke unlocks ESD which is Sage Mode combined with his EMS I believe?

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Naruto has a mirror'd Jubi+Rinnegan along with his Sage Mode

Wouldnt Naruto outclass Sasuke?

I mean even Naruto at that state would be too strong for Sasuke to even handle along with them being equals n such?

Partially, but not by much. He'd be superior is overall destructive power, but Sasuke would have the superior combined defensive and offsenvie capabilities. Similar to their first fight at the VoTE where Sasuke was a tad superior. Now the times have changed.

Naruto with rinnegan isn't controvertial, It is Fan-Fiction. It can never happen.

As for Yin Kurama becoming the Pseudo Juubi, it's possible, though unlikely. I dont see why naruto's bijuu chakra wouldnt have been absorbed when the Mazo was doing what it does best, Sucking up Bijuu Chakra

Says it's fanfiction, yet can't refute what I said in the OP. Nice. Before you give criticism use that brain of yours.
I'll go devil's advocate on this one and call fanboy wank thread. There is absolutely no foreshadowing Naruto will get Rinnegan, and if Madara pulled out the Kyuubi chakra, why would Naruto have chakra from the other TB?

"and the added chakra of EIGHT Tailed beasts"

Why? Madara probably already yanked this out. It seems unbelievable Madara wouldn't sense that TB chakra in Naruto and pull it out at the same time... Like really, 100% unbelievable.

I think the rest about Rinnegan and a new mode are all baseless speculation. If Naruto is lucky he'll get KCM back. That's all the Yin kyuubi granted Naruto. I'd predict he's probably lost BM for the foreseeable future. Let's also not forget Naruto's body is heavily weakened right now.

It'd be bad writing even for Kishimoto to have Naruto just get up at 100% and have a new mode lol

Please. You're an absolute joke to the forums. Nobody cares about your opinion at all. But there is no foreshadowing? How about the Rin'negan explicitly aligned with the tailed beasts right behind Naruto in 629? Yet you dismiss it as "no foreshadowing"? Or how he is basically a reincarnated Rikudou, yet it is impossible for him to get the Rin'negan? You're an idiot usually, but this is an all time low. I combat criticism but this is pure idiocy.
 

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Katsura, would you be willing to make an avatar bet for whether or not Naruto will acquire the Rinnegan?
 

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Naruto gaining the real bjiuu mode will put him past anything in history
With kuramas bjiuu mode narutos eyes change so with the real bijiuu mode of the juubi will get him the juubis eye power

But you thread is official
 

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Just having a piece of all the tailed beasts chakra isn't enough to make Naruto a psuedo juubi jin nor is it going to awaken rinnegan.

Naruto needs all the bijuus chakra so he can pull the rest of their chakra out of Madara.
 

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Katsura, would you be willing to make an avatar bet for whether or not Naruto will acquire the Rinnegan?

That sounds... enticing. But I'm not adept at creating Avatars, haha. Off topic; But how's University for you? I got in to UofT for Life Sciences :D

Just having a piece of all the tailed beasts chakra isn't enough to make Naruto a psuedo juubi jin nor is it going to awaken rinnegan.

Naruto needs all the bijuus chakra so he can pull the rest of their chakra out of Madara.

The WSJ preview clearly states Naruto is going to meet a mysterious old man. At this point in the story, it has to be Rikudou, bar no consequence. And it's merely a theory, but if you can't refute the chain of events portion of the OP, it is a large possibility he will awaken the Rin'negan.

And it isn't the case of being a Juubi Jin, but mirroring the Juubi's essence in the same way Kaguya and Hagoromo had the power of the fruit, which is the Juubi's essence.

EDIT: Why must someone downvote the thread? I don't get it. If you disagree, then just state so. But down voting is purely out of spite.
 

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That sounds... enticing. But I'm not adept at creating Avatars, haha. Off topic; But how's University for you? I got in to UofT for Life Sciences :D
Congrats.

It's going pretty well, the past week has been loaded with midterm exams. I've got a calculus exam tomorrow as well.
 

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Good thoughts and summation. The only consideration you don't account for is how the rinnegan is actually awoken. Madara stated it wasn't untill the end of his natural lifespan that his rinnegan awoke therefore we know some sort of catalyst must be required in addition to uniting senju and uchiha powers to trigger the eyes.
I agree with the rest.
 

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Congrats.

It's going pretty well, the past week has been loaded with midterm exams. I've got a calculus exam tomorrow as well.

I had a Calculus test purely based on limits and the difference quotient last week. Quite tiring to study for, but I think I did well (90+).
 

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Some said previously that Naruto cannot have Rinnegan because his fighting style relies on raw power while Sasuke (who he think should have Rinnegan) has a fighting skill that is fitted for Rinnegan. What that person is forgetting is that to use Rinnegan, you need actually raw power. Nagato had raw power, just like Senjudara and SenjuBito. As the past chapter has shown, unless you have Senju and Uchiha DNA, the rinnegan will not open. Given that Sasuke does not have Senju DNA, and given that Obito who has it did not even get Rinnegan, it is clear that Sasuke cannot have Rinnegan.

1. Why will Naruto awaken Rinnegan?

It is simple. Naruto is distant relative of Senju, but he is not Senju. This is were many people make their mistake on the base. The reason Naruto was classified in the Senju inheritance was that he has the Will of Fire. However, we also know that the Will of Fire was passed down to the younger son by Rikudo himself as it is Rikudo's Will. Thus, Naruto was seen as Younger son's descendant due to his will, which actually is the Will of Rikudo Sennin. After Kishi updated this piece of information, most ES-YS analysts simply decided to remain in the past instead of adapting their information and admitting that Naruto is of Rikudo's bloodline.

2. What is Rikudo's bloodline?

Well, Rikudo's bloodline is the bloddline of the child who was born of a mother who possessed the essence of Juubi within her. The child was born with the chakra resulting from that essence, and knew sealing techs that allowed him to beat the Juubi. Did the child have Rinnegan, or a form of dojutsus? Surely, we don't know.

Now, it turns out Naruto was born of a woman who has part of the juubi inside her. She also had power that only Juubi and her clansmate Karin have shown - that is chakra chain. It appears that Kushina and Karin have actually chakra inside them, and this chakra can manifest itself. Karin have even shown that someone can heal by biting her. The 6 lines on Naruto's face are the evidence that he was born with some kind of power that normal human being do not have.

This make clear that Naruto and RS have similar birth, both from special women with special power inside them.

3. Manifestation of Rikudo's power in Naruto?

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In the above scan, Kyuubi literally tied Naruto to Rikudo Sennin. One would say that this happened due to taking Kyuubi chakra, but it is also obvious that it was due to Naruto's seal as well. Besides, we don't know how Rikudo exactly beat Juubi, do we?
Consequently, only those who deny the above scan and the jutsus therein can classify Naruto in the Younger son clan for their own sake.

4. Conclusion

In my opinion, Rinnegan is not a dojutsus that rely solely on eye power. Rather, it is both eye and body power. The only clan who has been able to use Rinnegan perfectly without mixing bloodline is Uzumaki - represented by Nagato. I believe that there is a reason Madara implanted the Rinnegan in an Uzumaki child. There is a reason why the Uzumaki are specialized in sealing. There is a reason why Uzumaki have long life, healing power, wide range sensing, etc. As you can see, the Uzumaki clan has diverse power than any other clan in a way that tie them to the source of all Ninja power. The only thing I waiting for is for Kishi to give a detail of their clan, and why they were destroyed.
 

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I had a Calculus test purely based on limits and the difference quotient last week. Quite tiring to study for, but I think I did well (90+).

I've been spending the past days doing countless amounts of integrals.
 

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I've been spending the past days doing countless amounts of integrals.

Can you give me a brief description and example of integrals? I believe we're doing that towards the end of the course, because we're doing derivatives right now. I would like to know how integrals tie in to Calculus beforehand.
 
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