Sound 4 vs. Tsunade.

[~Sky~]

Weren't damaged? Lmao.

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The fact that they had to activate the curse mark against Genma and Raido and they even injured during the battle proves my point. Tsuande defeats them easily.

Don't see anything wrong. They're taking a breather, lol.

Besides, Sound Genjutsu + Kidomaru arrow ends this.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Don't see anything wrong. They're taking a breather, lol.

Besides, Sound Genjutsu + Kidomaru arrow ends this.

The sound genjutsu isn't doing shit because Tsunade can release her seal without waving handseals. As soon as the genjutsu is broken, she forms the tiger's seal and activates the Byakugou.
Not to mention a punch to the ground stops any arrow Kidomaru throws at her. She is also faster and more skilled in close ranged combat then the sound four or the rookies who were sent after them.

 

[paratise]

İ am not saying sound wins this, but how an arrow that comes with an aerial way would be effected by punch to the ground.

 

[TheEvilOne]

İ am not saying sound wins this, but how an arrow that comes with an aerial way would be effected by punch to the ground.

A punch to the ground which AoE is nearly 210 meters is more then enough to stop the arrow.

 

[~Sky~]

The sound genjutsu isn't doing shit because Tsunade can release her seal without waving handseals.

Pardon me, but since when does the Yin Seal give one the power to break genjutsu? Also, you're forgetting these summons:

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As soon as the genjutsu is broken, she forms the tiger's seal and activates the Byakugou.

Okay, but she still has those guys to deal with^

Along with Long range attacks from Kidomaru and advanced Taijutsu from Jirobo and Sakon and Ukon.

Not to mention a punch to the ground stops any arrow Kidomaru throws at her.

He then proceeds to fire another one.

She is also faster and more skilled in close ranged combat then the sound four or the rookies who were sent after them.

She's still paralyzed though.

 

[Strict]

Can I have a scan stating that Yin seals activation breaks Genjutsu?

As far as I know Jiraiya said that, in order to dispel Genjutsu, you would need to put more strength into disturbing (stopping) your Chakra flow which is controlled by that Genjutsu. Yin seal's activation doesn't forcibly disturb your Chakra flow. Partner tactics works when your partner disturbs your Chakra with his own, but passing his Chakra on another person isn't always equal to disturbing the Chakra flow, seeing how Tsunade powered up Oonoki's Jinton.

A punch to the ground which AoE is nearly 210 meters is more then enough to stop the arrow.

I remember you said in another debate you by yourself don't believe Sakura's AoE was 210 meters. I remember it.

 

[Optimistic]

Sound 4 wins at least s4 supporters can come up with good arguments

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

so much hype and abc logic here

 

[TheEvilOne]

Can I have a scan stating that Yin seals activation breaks Genjutsu?

As far as I know Jiraiya said that, in order to dispel Genjutsu, you would need to put more strength into disturbing (stopping) your Chakra flow which is controlled by that Genjutsu. Yin seal's activation doesn't forcibly disturb your Chakra flow. Partner tactics works when your partner disturbs your Chakra with his own, but passing his Chakra on another person isn't always equal to disturbing the Chakra flow, seeing how Tsunade powered up Oonoki's Jinton.


I remember you said in another debate you by yourself don't believe Sakura's AoE was 210 meters. I remember it.

The key of breaking a genjutsu isn't stopping the flow of chakra, but ( as you said ) DISTURBING. Tsunade's Yin seal is filled with chakra and when she releases the seal, the chakra stored in it starts to pour back in her body.

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so even if its AoE isn't 210 meters, the rubbish, the giant rocks and the shockwaves stops the arrow.

 

[paratise]

A punch to the ground which AoE is nearly 210 meters is more then enough to stop the arrow.

How is that relevant?
Punch to ground effects ground not an aerial attack.

 

[TheEvilOne]

How is that relevant?
Punch to ground effects ground not an aerial attack.

See my previous point.

 

[~Sky~]

Kidomaru can make as many arrows as he pleases.

Considering Tsunade would be busy with this:

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And this:

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And considering Kidmomaru fires headshots using the above attack as a diversion:

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Tsunade also doesn't have 360 degree vision like Neji.

While Tsunade also has to deal with Jirobo, Sakon, and Ukon in CQC, means she'll be overwhelmed.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Tsunade shits on these guys. They lost to chunnins. In fact, they got no diff'd by sand shinobi and butterfly choji.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Spoiler

Kidomaru can make as many arrows as he pleases.

Considering Tsunade would be busy with this:

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And this:

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And considering Kidmomaru fires headshots using the above attack as a diversion:

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Tsunade also doesn't have 360 degree vision like Neji.

While Tsunade also has to deal with Jirobo, Sakon, and Ukon in CQC, means she'll be overwhelmed.

Except Tsunade is a living tank who was able to run even with her muscles cut, even with her chest stabbed, even with her abdomens stabbed by two Susanoo swords, etc. Some arrows and threads aren't hindering her.

Idk what can Jirubo do, he gets instantly blitzed. Sakon/Ukon are also using only physical attacks, and I already explained why the sound genjutsu can't paralyze Tsunade.

 

[TheTailedSage]

So were still using the pathetic punching the ground excuse EO?? The last arrow that kido done to neji pierces through those rocks like butter

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And the only reason why neji was able to evade so many attacks for kidomaru in an area with so many trees and obstacles was because he had Byakugan, Tsunade has no anticipation jutsu and i couldnt care less if her evasion skills are top notch she wont see them coming, prove otherwise.

 

[~Sky~]

Except Tsunade is a living tank who was able to run even with her muscles cut, even with her chest stabbed, even with her abdomens stabbed by two Susanoo swords, etc. Some arrows and threads aren't hindering her.

Geez... You completely missed the point.

The arrows are very strong:

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Irrelevant tanking feats mean nothing to nonstop arrows of that destructive power.

Also, you forgot the chakra absorbing monsters that don't take physical form. Meaning they can't get punched.

Idk what can Jirubo do, he gets instantly blitzed.

He's a non factor. A meaningless distraction. Doesn't matter.

Sakon/Ukon are also using only physical attacks,

They can merge into Tsunade's body to restrain her, and then exit right before an Arrow hits her.

and I already explained why the sound genjutsu can't paralyze Tsunade.

Actually it can, but the Yin Seal breaks her out. So in that split second, Tsunade gets either:

1.) Hit in the head by an Arrow

2.) Restrained by Kidmomaru's multiple spider summons

3.) Merged with Sakon and Ukon

4.) Chakra sucked out by Doki

5.) All of the above

 

[UchihaNagashi]

The key of breaking a genjutsu isn't stopping the flow of chakra, but ( as you said ) DISTURBING. Tsunade's Yin seal is filled with chakra and when she releases the seal, the chakra stored in it starts to pour back in her body.

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so even if its AoE isn't 210 meters, the rubbish, the giant rocks and the shockwaves stops the arrow.

Never. Kidōmaru's Arō is able to pierce through almost anything.

The power of his arrows can create craters in the ground, and could be further increased by adding a drill to the arrowhead. The arrow impact with the drill added, could pile-drive through forests, as well as prevent change in trajectory when piercing through any obstacles that stand in between the target and Kidōmaru.

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[KingHashirama]

They need all of four them to just take on those 2 jounin who guard the gates.... Rofl. Yet you wanna talk about them taking on Tsunade..

Can I have a scan stating that Yin seals activation breaks Genjutsu?

As far as I know Jiraiya said that, in order to dispel Genjutsu, you would need to put more strength into disturbing (stopping) your Chakra flow which is controlled by that Genjutsu. Yin seal's activation doesn't forcibly disturb your Chakra flow. Partner tactics works when your partner disturbs your Chakra with his own, but passing his Chakra on another person isn't always equal to disturbing the Chakra flow, seeing how Tsunade powered up Oonoki's Jinton.


I remember you said in another debate you by yourself don't believe Sakura's AoE was 210 meters. I remember it.

False, you do not understand how genjutsu works then.

Uchiha break out of genjutsu, by disturbing NOT stopping the chakra flow of their brain. Genjutsu reverses the flow, the addition of the Yin Seal chakra will automatically disturb the flow created by the Genjutsu.

On top of that you are talking about people who can focus ALL of the chakra in there body to 1 point... If any one can stop their chakra its them.

 

[AGoodBoy]

So were still using the pathetic punching the ground excuse EO?? The last arrow that kido done to neji pierces through those rocks like butter

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And the only reason why neji was able to evade so many attacks for kidomaru in an area with so many trees and obstacles was because he had Byakugan, Tsunade has no anticipation jutsu and i couldnt care less if her evasion skills are top notch she wont see them coming, prove otherwise.

You do realize that tsunade can just get katsuya to split into 10000 pieces and find this guy for her right?
Or, she can blast away the entire forest with a punch so he has no where to cover and snipe from. That battle was so circumstancial upon the fact that he was tree hugging. In plain view, he'd be destroyed.
This guy's arrows couldn't even kill neji.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Tsunade =/= Neji. She doesn't have to worry about the damage when she can regenerate. Even Madara was careless when he fought the Bijuu because he had Hashirama's healing power. [

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If 9 Bijuu wasn't able to crush his body, then 4 chuunin level guys aren't dealing with someone who has this ability. [

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] Not to mention Tsunade already tanked a similar attack, the Yasaka Magatama from a close range.