somethings not right...

[Thewargoeson]

Something is not right about tobirama senju.
As we all know tobirama was the 2nd hokage and an extremely powerful ninja.
he had unbelievable mastery of water ninjutsu, master to hiruzen, creator of edo tensei!
now tht last one, edo tensei somethings not right about it.
For someone to ressurect a persons soul one has to offer up a living sacrifice...
That means since tobirama invented it and probably used it doesnt tht mean tht the beloved second hokage took a living person and sacrificed them? doesnt tht make him sorta sadistic?
because of tht, I think something more is gonna come out of tobirama.
we havent seen/heard much of him, and the edo tensei thing kinda proves he was wacked up in the head.
Just a thot watchu guys think?

 

[Punk Hazard]

or got wood clones from hashirama

 

[Sn0rkack]

You need to realize that these ninja are murderers and thieves. Everyone loves Kakashi...and he was one of the best murderers ever. Minato may seem like a hero, but he not only sealed a demon into his son, but he also slaughtered hundreds of enemy ninja. Everyone simply loves Itachi, but he killed his entire clan on orders from Konoha, the village everyone thinks is the nicest. Don't get me started on Gaara. The only Hokage whose hands are clean is probably Hashirama and I suppose Tsunade hasn't done anything terrible that I can think of.

 

[medal32]

Well arent shinobi suppoused to be mercyless killers, thieves and assasins?

 

[Punk Hazard]

You need to realize that these ninja are murderers and thieves. Everyone loves Kakashi...and he was one of the best murderers ever. Minato may seem like a hero, but he not only sealed a demon into his son, but he also slaughtered hundreds of enemy ninja. Everyone simply loves Itachi, but he killed his entire clan on orders from Konoha, the village everyone thinks is the nicest. Don't get me started on Gaara. The only Hokage whose hands are clean is probably Hashirama and I suppose Tsunade hasn't done anything terrible that I can think of.

some people seem to forget ninjas kill people

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Enemy nins were used.

 

[Netsui]

Maybe he never used Edo Tensei. He may have made the jutsu, but he didn't perfect it, so maybe since it wasn't perfected he didn't use it.

Not to mention, maybe he used criminals as the sacrifices. Main thing is, ninjas kill other ninjas, so I wouldn't call him sadistic.

 

[Thewargoeson]

You need to realize that these ninja are murderers and thieves. Everyone loves Kakashi...and he was one of the best murderers ever. Minato may seem like a hero, but he not only sealed a demon into his son, but he also slaughtered hundreds of enemy ninja. Everyone simply loves Itachi, but he killed his entire clan on orders from Konoha, the village everyone thinks is the nicest. Don't get me started on Gaara. The only Hokage whose hands are clean is probably Hashirama and I suppose Tsunade hasn't done anything terrible that I can think of.

But even hiruzen (who mustve killed at least a few people in his life) was disgusted at the technique. Im just saying to have created tht technique he wud have had to have done some unspeakable orochimaru type things

 

[Dantee]

As far as we know he never used it and dubbed it as forbidden. So how does that make him a bad guy? He sacrificed himself to let his comrades get away. Sounds like a cool guy to me.

 

[Sn0rkack]

But even hiruzen (who mustve killed at least a few people in his life) was disgusted at the technique. Im just saying to have created tht technique he wud have had to have done some unspeakable orochimaru type things

Heh, the cycle continues. He was taught by the man who made the ET and taught the man who killed him while using the ET...who taught the man who perfected the ET.

 

[Owarij]

As far as we know he never used it and dubbed it as forbidden. So how does that make him a bad guy? He sacrificed himself to let his comrades get away. Sounds like a cool guy to me.

He used it, alot, Chiyo, muu, kin gin bros, Madara, everyone knew about it... Madara saw him fight on the battlefield with it

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

some people seem to forget ninjas kill people

bad people is the perfect answer :ice:

 

[kionay]

maybe he found it by accident? and was all like, oh SNAP, gotta not tell anyone 'bout dis

 

[ItachiSan03]

Well, he obviously stopped doing it but he probably used p.o.w. for the technique. Anyways like the above posts are saying, these are ninjas, they kill and are ruthless.

 

[ShiroT]

You need to realize that these ninja are murderers and thieves. Everyone loves Kakashi...and he was one of the best murderers ever. Minato may seem like a hero, but he not only sealed a demon into his son, but he also slaughtered hundreds of enemy ninja. Everyone simply loves Itachi, but he killed his entire clan on orders from Konoha, the village everyone thinks is the nicest. Don't get me started on Gaara. The only Hokage whose hands are clean is probably Hashirama and I suppose Tsunade hasn't done anything terrible that I can think of.

tsunade was in the(i think) second ninja war

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

You need to realize that these ninja are murderers and thieves. Everyone loves Kakashi...and he was one of the best murderers ever. Minato may seem like a hero, but he not only sealed a demon into his son, but he also slaughtered hundreds of enemy ninja. Everyone simply loves Itachi, but he killed his entire clan on orders from Konoha, the village everyone thinks is the nicest. Don't get me started on Gaara. The only Hokage whose hands are clean is probably Hashirama and I suppose Tsunade hasn't done anything terrible that I can think of.

agreed, ^

to the thread maker, sadistic means that he Enjoyed doing the sacrifice thing over and over again for no reason and to innocent people , which is not Tobirama's case, in fact, Tobirama invented the jutsu but he may got just ninjas, From the enemy ranks, the latter was sentenced to death, so instead of hanging the guy from the neck, they just made him more of a use .

does that make you feel better ? :')

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Maybe he never used Edo Tensei. He may have made the jutsu, but he didn't perfect it, so maybe since it wasn't perfected he didn't use it.

Not to mention, maybe he used criminals as the sacrifices. Main thing is, ninjas kill other ninjas, so I wouldn't call him sadistic.

This^^ Tobirama had not perfected it. I believe it is actually stated by either Hiruzen or Enma when he confronted Orochimaru that they were amazed that he had done so. I'll see if I can find it.

Found it, couple of versions appear to exist.

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[Sasuke2]

This is about Ninja, not ponies ... there isn't peace 24/7.
The villages were hostile to each other before peace truce and all that shit.
Sakumo Hatake - the White Fang has killed Sasori's parents ... so this now makes Sasori a victim and a good guy and Sakumo is the villain and should be instead of Sasori in the Akatsuki.

Cool story bro

 

[Everlasting Peace]

Something is not right about tobirama senju.
As we all know tobirama was the 2nd hokage and an extremely powerful ninja.
he had unbelievable mastery of water ninjutsu, master to hiruzen, creator of edo tensei!
now tht last one, edo tensei somethings not right about it.
For someone to ressurect a persons soul one has to offer up a living sacrifice...
That means since tobirama invented it and probably used it doesnt tht mean tht the beloved second hokage took a living person and sacrificed them? doesnt tht make him sorta sadistic?
because of tht, I think something more is gonna come out of tobirama.
we havent seen/heard much of him, and the edo tensei thing kinda proves he was wacked up in the head.
Just a thot watchu guys think?

You are placing Edo tensei as an evil or bad Jutsu, but that is because we have two examples of it being used for evil, and plus the fact that they are not human, and dead should stay dead.

I strongly believe the reason Tobirama researched and developed it was to Bring back Mawaki, and Dan. These people are precious to him as well as Lady Tsunade which seems to be the only Senju left at the time, after Hashi died. But again it is just a speculation, but it's the only one I see that would make sense. Because I do not believe tobirama has any evilness in him.

I hope it helps give you more ideas on why he developed it.

 

[Thane]

Tobirama
Tobi
Tobirama - Rama = Tobi

COINCIDENCE?!