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It's not about what you have, it's about what you do with what you have, Sasuke is a good tactician

Well Naruto isn't a bad tactician either, people may not acknowledge it all the time but he is indeed clever, at the very least in the fights. So asssuming that both of them are good at that then it comes down to their arsenal so they can have a bigger flexibility and variety when then plan things out.
 
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Stopped reading after you said he was faster than his ST jutsu....

How can a person be faster than instant?
You also act like Sasuke will just stand there and do nothing to counter
Kaguya easily dodged sasukes attack idiot even at close range Naruto was at a distance and still managed to get to her and amputate her arm then threw black rods to hold bz down then hit Kaguya with barrage and where was sasuke ? What was he doing oh yea nothing and after Naruto dodges sasukes attack what will he do when his eye has to recharge u idiots seem to forget sasuke can't use it bk to bk
 

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some new type of rasengan that will trigger a barage of flashbacks?
 

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He didnt Ashura used the sages power and help from others to barely beat Indra. But now sasuke too has the sages power so it puts indra a league above ashura.

Lol ashura didn't have help when he fought Indra hago said his power bloomed to that on par with Indra he then fought and beat Indra go reread Indra was just butthurt daddy didn't choose him then got stomped as well so he turned to bz but still couldn't beat ashura it just killed both of them
 

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Is this an argument about whether Naruto can or not? or are you sure he will but don't know how,

Either way the answer is because the plot requires it/plot
 

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Lol ashura didn't have help when he fought Indra hago said his power bloomed to that on par with Indra he then fought and beat Indra go reread Indra was just butthurt daddy didn't choose him then got stomped as well so he turned to bz but still couldn't beat ashura it just killed both of them

Well to be precise the manga says that they had a long war and after their deaths, their chakra continue to exist in their transmigrants, however it is not stated that Ashura defeated Indra or the other way around. Don't jump into conclusions.
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Kaguya easily dodged sasukes attack idiot even at close range Naruto was at a distance and still managed to get to her and amputate her arm then threw black rods to hold bz down then hit Kaguya with barrage and where was sasuke ? What was he doing oh yea nothing and after Naruto dodges sasukes attack what will he do when his eye has to recharge u idiots seem to forget sasuke can't use it bk to bk

Already resorting to name calling eh?
Nothing is faster than instant, she dodged Sasuke's attack because his STRIKING speed wasn't fast enough, not his ST jutsu, then you act like all Sasuke has is ST and Susanoo, he can also use genjutsu, and it would last long enough for Sasuke to evade an attack if he times it right. What happens when Sasuke swaps with Naruto when he throws a RS variant at him?

You always try to downplay Sasuke whenever you get the chance, you underrate him to no end
 

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Simple...... he didn't

OT: He won't cuz he can't :coffee:

That's to be put in question.

All this time the dynamics between the two of them have changed many times however this time they're supposedly equals.

However, we know one thing, Naruto used to have great amounts of chakra but had terrible control over it while Sasuke did not have as much as him but his exceptional control over it could make up for the less chakra. But now Naruto has an equally exceptionally control over his chakra. Sasuke might have also gained some extraordinary chakra reserves but let's not forget that Naruto has 2 other sources of chakra, one being half Kurama in him and maybe what the other beasts left for him and two his sage mode. Now we did see Sasuke using Black Chidori which is a sage technique but it's still up to question if he can actually use it to an extent similar to that of Naruto.

At the end of the day it all comes to their chakra reserves and their ability to muster more chakra than their opponent. That being said, in a long battle in which the result will be a stalemate then Naruto at some point will get the upper hand considering that Kurama and sage mode will provide him with chakra allowing him, thus, to fight, longer than Sasuke.

Now in case you ask why it didn't happen so in Ashura vs Indra, well we don't know if the former was a Jin to have an extra source. Sasuke's only way out of it is if he can use his abilities without wasting almost no chakra.
 
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Naruto roflstomped kaguya who was ancestor of all chakra and she was known as Rabbit Goddess.Tell me how sasuke can stand a chance against naruto? Lol
 

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That's to be put in question.

All this time the dynamics between the two of them have changed many times however this time they're supposedly equals.

However, we know one thing, Naruto used to have great amounts of chakra but had terrible control over it while Sasuke did not have as much as him but his exceptional control over it could make up for the less chakra. But now Naruto has an equally exceptionally control over his chakra. Sasuke might have also gained some extraordinary chakra reserves but let's not forget that Naruto has 2 other sources of chakra, one being half Kurama in him and maybe what the other beasts left for him and two his sage mode. Now we did see Sasuke using Black Chidori which is a sage technique but it's still up to question if he can actually use it to an extent similar to that of Naruto.

At the end of the day it all comes to their chakra reserves and their ability to muster more chakra than their opponent. That being said, in a long battle in which the result will be a stalemate then Naruto at some point will get the upper hand considering that Kurama and sage mode will provide him with chakra allowing him, thus, to fight, longer than Sasuke.

Now in case you ask why it didn't happen so in Ashura vs Indra, well we don't know if the former was a Jin to have an extra source. Sasuke's only way out of it is if he can use his abilities without wasting almost no chakra.

It's not about Chakra, Naruto only has few abilities (plus improved physical strength) which Sasuke knows and can counter since he was also watching Naruto fight during the Kaguya/Madara battle, Sasuke didn't use much of his new ability since Kaguya required sealing and not strength, it would be dumb of him to try and defeat her when even Hagoromo (who has both the power Naruto and Sasuke) felt threatened of her. Hagoromo has equally shared his powers between Naruto and Sasuke, however they are combining their new powers with their previous powers, for Naruto its Chakra Mode (since he doesn't have the full bijuu to go BM) and for Sasuke its EMS. We also haven't seen the full extend of Sasuke's new power, so we can't compare it to Naruto as he used pretty much most if not all of his new feats U_U
 
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Naruto defeated the 6 paths with just sage mode. Yes he talked his way out of the fight with Nagato, but he still took them on basically on his own. Sasuske may have this newer more powerful rinnegan, but naruto now has all the tailed beast chakra and still has Kuramas other half along with the six paths sage mode. I feel this is basically the same fight. So I think Naruto has the same chance.

Do I think he will kill Sasuke? Not necessarily. That, unfortunately, will be a plot device. I don't think we can measure power levels of these characters as Kishi hasn't finished his story yet. Just my opinion though...
 

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Naruto defeated the 6 paths with just sage mode. Yes he talked his way out of the fight with Nagato, but he still took them on basically on his own. Sasuske may have this newer more powerful rinnegan, but naruto now has all the tailed beast chakra and still has Kuramas other half along with the six paths sage mode. I feel this is basically the same fight. So I think Naruto has the same chance.

Do I think he will kill Sasuke? Not necessarily. That, unfortunately, will be a plot device. I don't think we can measure power levels of these characters as Kishi hasn't finished his story yet. Just my opinion though...

He didn't defeat Pain even when the rinnegan was unoriginal and divided by 6, Naruto only kept up with deva pain when his powers were recharging but as soon as it returned Naruto was pained to the ground and on deaths door until Hinata came which later lead him to awaken the Kyuubi 8 tails, once the kyuubi reaches 4 tails Naruto loses control and consciousness, meaning Kurama was fighting alone.
 

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Naruto won't beat Sasuke because he can't. Sasuke will not be beaten until submission then revert to being a naruto follower.

Even is one line says enough to prove he's not under naruto's orders..

Tnj is the only way..
 
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He didn't defeat Pain even when the rinnegan was unoriginal and divided by 6, Naruto only kept up with deva pain when his powers were recharging but as soon as it returned Naruto was pained to the ground and on deaths door until Hinata came which later lead him to awaken the Kyuubi 8 tails, once the kyuubi reaches 4 tails Naruto loses control and consciousness, meaning Kurama was fighting alone.

Sure thats the middle of the fight. Then Kurama was trapped in the Chibaku Tensei. Naruto regained consciousness and then fought Deva by himself in sage mode and defeated him. My point is, he has taken on the rinnegan before and won. So sure, Kurama fought part of the fight with him. Kurama is still sealed in him, so same/if not better scenario. They work together now. Overall fight was won by Naruto/Kurama, so I think they still have a chance.
 
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