Someone please explain how Tobi could know this?

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In chapter 597 Tobi asks Naruto what Jiraiya and the 4th Hokage would say if he gave up on what they had entrusted to him . He also goes on to say that if Naruto consoled himself by delivering something like "Hope" it would just be hollow words. Of course we know that Jiraiya and Minato trusted Naruto to overcome the cycle of hatred plaguing the Ninja World.

My question is, how on Earth would Tobi know what Naruto was entrusted with? I'm curious to get your opinions.
 
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well he knows minato is his father and jiraiya his sensei for a start...
 

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but really its ain't a secret j-man wanted peace and passed that to ALL his students so likely a educated guess
 

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Good question. How does he know about kakashi and the regret he feels. To know kakashi is the type to feel regret you would have to know him on a person to person basis. My best guess would be he had zetsu spying on naruto and jiraiya during their 2.5 year trip or maybe konan said something when they fought. I can't remember what they talked about.
 

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well he knows minato is his father and jiraiya his sensei for a start...

True but that doesn't really explain how he knows what they entrusted to Naruto. Tobi's response is admonishment of Naruto's stated goal to become Hokage. He is reminding him of the higher purpose Jiraiya and Minato entrusted to him.
 

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Thats what I thought when I read it. He probably has Zetsu spying on Naruto quite often so he would know about Jiraiya but the whole Minato thing happened in his inner world so I can't explain that one.
 

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Because Naruto is the same as Hashirama.
 

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Good question. How does he know about kakashi and the regret he feels. To know kakashi is the type to feel regret you would have to know him on a person to person basis. My best guess would be he had zetsu spying on naruto and jiraiya during their 2.5 year trip or maybe konan said something when they fought. I can't remember what they talked about.

Thanks for bringing up Zetsu. Yes, Zetsu is used as explanation of most of Tobi's knowledge. It would explain Jiraiya. If you believe some theorists, one could also say that Konan and Nagato's corpse had this knowledge through their exchanges as well, but that doesn't explain Minato.
 

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Good question. How does he know about kakashi and the regret he feels. To know kakashi is the type to feel regret you would have to know him on a person to person basis. My best guess would be he had zetsu spying on naruto and jiraiya during their 2.5 year trip or maybe konan said something when they fought. I can't remember what they talked about.

This
 

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Thats what I thought when I read it. He probably has Zetsu spying on Naruto quite often so he would know about Jiraiya but the whole Minato thing happened in his inner world so I can't explain that one.

Bingo! Thank you. Someone rep this man please, I have to spread around more.
 

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Tobi has keep an eye on Naruto sines the day He failed to get the Fox, waiting for the day He could extract it from Naruto, why do you think Jiraiya took Naruto on a over 2 years walk about? To make it hard for Tobi and the rest in capturing Naruto and to train Naruto for this battle.
 

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Tobi has keep an eye on Naruto sines the day He failed to get the Fox, waiting for the day He could extract it from Naruto, why do you think Jiraiya took Naruto on a over 2 years walk about? To make it hard for Tobi and the rest in capturing Naruto and to train Naruto for this battle.

I'll play along, so Hiruzen wasted his time earlier because Tobi was keeping tabs, and Tobi is a chump for not capturing Kurama while Naruto was working to become a Chunin?

This still doesn't explain Minato.
 

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i was actually thinking about this but never had time to post my theory, but i believe tobi is naruto from the future, now as to how well it would explain the stuff that couldnt be explained but comlicate the stuff that is explained, my guess is that in the future naruto was treated bad and everything and no one cared for him, he made the promise to sakura to bring sasuke back but failed so many times at it and eventually sakura stopped caring for him as well leaveing him alone forever, then naruto lives with the pain a guilt of failing sakura and sasuke attacks the village to avenge uchiha and naruto meets him in battle but sasuke uses his time maipulation of his sharingan and sends naruto years in the past to before the fight at kannabi bridge where at this point naruto was so badly hurt psycologically he just didnt care no more so he died his hair black and took the identity as tobi, now some years later naruto came across an elderly madara and they talked madara explained his plan and naruto not caring anymore proposed to help madara achieve this plan now at this point keep in mind that in the future kakashi talked about the obito death at kannabi bridge and it was comming to past, naruto remembered kakashi's abilities with his sharingan he got from obito and went to go get obitos other eye and for years trained with it before he he fought the fourth hokage and since naruto didnt care about living he didnt care if he killed himself in the past or his parents, he wanted the nine tails and he had nine tails and could have just left with it to complete his and madaras plan but because of his hatred and pain that built up towards the leaf from his suffering in the future he attacked it with kurama but the fourth beat him and he retreated knowing he couldnt beat his dad and minato sealed kurama in naruto changing the future now at this point you would think well if thats the case then tobi should have vanished but not really because it would go from being the future to being a alternate reality right and kishi likes dragon ball so think about trunks said about the future and him not disappering due to the changes in the past and apply it to naruto it makes sense right thats why tobi knows so much about kakashi and what naruto was intrusted with he has all of narutos memories as they progress but it doesnt change what he can do ability wise because the future that tobi is from doest exist anymore, its a alternate world at this point and in that alternate world naruto didnt have kurama or learnd rasengan he was a regular shinobi and cant learn what this naruto learns this makes alot of sense seeing as naruto couldnt keep the promises he made in the alternate world so he wants to rid the world of people like kakashi and what not by using infanate tsukuyomi to control people. i came up with this after analyzing the shit out of kishi/naruto manga/road to ninj, i say road to ninja because i believe kishi is giving us a hint as to who tobi is. for example its a alternate universe/with a evil naruto who wears a mask/who tobi posses like a ghost/ interm you have a evil naruto fron a alternate world who has obitos sharingan and tobis personality/mind....this = my theory
 

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Zetsu records things and Naruto screams that he wants to become hokage in every fight so Tobi was probably just trying to mind f*** him like he did to kakashi.
 

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Zetsu records things and Naruto screams that he wants to become hokage in every fight so Tobi was probably just trying to mind f*** him like he did to kakashi.

How can zetsu record what happened in narutos head? And zetsu hasn't been following kakashi all his life and what I said makes sense, tobi did say those things to mindf*** them but because he knowws them...
 
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