Some people lack common sense...

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God the amount of meaningless arguing in this thread is ridiculous lol. Guy who made this thread, calm down.

I personally think Itachi has great chakra reserves. Certainly not the best of the lot but he's got plenty.

Its impossible to say how much though, which is what a lot of people are trying to say. You need to take into consideration chakra control, the amount of chakra the jutsu costs, and the fact a ninja just about never goes to absolute zero. Since we don't know for sure all of these factors, you can't say for sure what his chakra levels are. But who cares? He can do incredible things with the chakra he has, whether it be high chakra reserves or great control. No need to make it more complicated and get angry.

About the healthy Itachi thing, what people are trying to tell you is this: you cannot judge somebody by what they would be like if certain conditions had been met in the past. Say you play basketball against some kid who's never played before, but he's athletic and shows potential in the game. You can say: "he could have become an excellent player." You can't say "he's an excellent player because if he had played in the past, he would be an excellent player." You can only state that he's athletic and shows potential.

Hope that clears things up. Now stop bickering <.<

Edit: I only read like 3 pages so if the bickering has stopped already, my bad ^^
 

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Maybe someone already said this and I am repeating my self, but I am too lazy to read through the whole thread so here is an answer.

Itachi does in fact have unusually low Chakara reserves. However in order to make up for this Itachi has mastered using as little Chakara as possible on techniques and using it efficiently. Remember its not really about Chakara amount as much as how efficiently that Chakara can be used. For example Itachi taught him self how to keep his sharingan activated for long periods of time by efficiently using Chakara

EDIT: Okay I just saw the poll I cannot believe this is how dumb people are... you all think Itachi has a lot of Chakara...

Do any of you re watch Naruto part 1? Training with Ebisu and Naruto making clones and walking on water. Ebisu revealed that its not about Chakara amount, but rather chakara usage and not uses excess chakara
I've seen all the parts of naruto. Now think about it. No matter how much great chairs control itachi possibly has, I DOUBT that he would be able to outlast sasuke with a curse seal, use susanoo to block a full kirin (devestating thing) and seal oro . Think about it dude, he cannot do all that with LOW chakra reserves. The dude obviously has a higher than avarage chakra. Just not the best like the uzamaki or senju or madara.
 

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God the amount of meaningless arguing in this thread is ridiculous lol. Guy who made this thread, calm down.

I personally think Itachi has great chakra reserves. Certainly not the best of the lot but he's got plenty.

Its impossible to say how much though, which is what a lot of people are trying to say. You need to take into consideration chakra control, the amount of chakra the jutsu costs, and the fact a ninja just about never goes to absolute zero. Since we don't know for sure all of these factors, you can't say for sure what his chakra levels are. But who cares? He can do incredible things with the chakra he has, whether it be high chakra reserves or great control. No need to make it more complicated and get angry.

About the healthy Itachi thing, what people are trying to tell you is this: you cannot judge somebody by what they would be like if certain conditions had been met in the past. Say you play basketball against some kid who's never played before, but he's athletic and shows potential in the game. You can say: "he could have become an excellent player." You can't say "he's an excellent player because if he had played in the past, he would be an excellent player." You can only state that he's athletic and shows potential.

Hope that clears things up. Now stop bickering <.<

Edit: I only read like 3 pages so if the bickering has stopped already, my bad ^^
Actually a healthy itachi did exist. Example: when he mastered the fireball technique years before sasuke even had enough chakra to do one. Even itachis father complemented itachi on that one. So if itachi had more chakra at a younger age than sasuke, what does that tell you? Obviously he has higher than avarage chakra reserves and diffinately if he wasn't sick he would have had more chakra than sasuke. He got sick after he murdered his clan and I bet his desease was from the fact that he himself killed his own clan not from MS. Tob I said that was why he got the desease...
 
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oh man!!!
of course Itachi is OP and he hasn't got any lack of chakra...

people and haters talk then I rather walk... you know what I'm talking about

edit : you can't talk about Itachi with his sickness coz that is part of him
you can't have Amaterasu,tsokyumi,susanoo,kamui,...(MS tech) with out sickness
and don't say sickness wasn't from MS
The only side effect of MS is BLINDNESS not sickness. Proof is madara loosing his light all the way... but he didn't die did he? Hitachi was only half blind and he caughed up blood right when the battle started. Zetsu even said that medication is what kept him alive. Use your common sense and logic now.
 
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Actually a healthy itachi did exist. Example: when he mastered the fireball technique years before sasuke even had enough chakra to do one. Even itachis father complemented itachi on that one. So if itachi had more chakra at a younger age than sasuke, what does that tell you? Obviously he has higher than avarage chakra reserves and diffinately if he wasn't sick he would have had more chakra than sasuke. He got sick after he murdered his clan and I bet his desease was from the fact that he himself killed his own clan not from MS. To I said that was why he got the desease...
The disease has always been a point of confusion for me. We never really understood what it was. :/ Kinda wish we knew for sure :p But keep in mind that chakra reserves also increase with growth/age up to a certain point. Well actually, I'm just speculating based on the variety of ninja we've seen, but I can say that with a fair amount of confidence. Non sick Itachi (or whatever you crazy kids are calling him these days!!) would have most likely been less powerful than sick Itachi, just because of the age/experience difference. So we don't get to see Itachi in the prime of his life (chakra wise I guess...) when he isn't sick.

I personally love Itachi for his story. The only power of the sharingan that I actually like is the sharingan without anything active, just the ability to read and analyze movements. If I was to walk away from Naruto with one power, it would be the regular sharingan.

Off to bed for me. Good night.
 

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Yes, but like I said the problem here is that people lack the common scenes to make sense of why itachi seemed like he did not have much chakra. People need to know that he suffered from a disease which crippled his boddy and chakra reserves for sure (which is why he randomly caughed blood at times). Also what he displayed during the battle with sasuke tell you that he had NO ordinary amount of chakra simply because the MS techniques he had used would kill a user with a normal chakra reserve, even if the had great mastery of their chakra.
 

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And the purpose of this post is...? Itachi only used Tsukuyomi once in his fight with Sasuke, which was at the beginning.. But if this is your argument for Itachi having a lot of Chakra then it's flawed.

Look at Kakashi... He went from being able to use Raikiri 4 times a day, to being able to use it like 6 times, as well as using Kamui a few times... All this in a single day.
Your image also shows "The fact that it uses a considerable amount of chakra" means that itachi has a lot of chakra if he used amaterasu, fireball, tsukyomi, susanoo who all asides from fireball use a huge amount of chakra
 

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The disease has always been a point of confusion for me. We never really understood what it was. :/ Kinda wish we knew for sure :p But keep in mind that chakra reserves also increase with growth/age up to a certain point. Well actually, I'm just speculating based on the variety of ninja we've seen, but I can say that with a fair amount of confidence. Non sick Itachi (or whatever you crazy kids are calling him these days!!) would have most likely been less powerful than sick Itachi, just because of the age/experience difference. So we don't get to see Itachi in the prime of his life (chakra wise I guess...) when he isn't sick.

I personally love Itachi for his story. The only power of the sharingan that I actually like is the sharingan without anything active, just the ability to read and analyze movements. If I was to walk away from Naruto with one power, it would be the regular sharingan.

Off to bed for me. Good night.
Maybe kishi will tell us when itachi talks to sasuke

Ps: srry if ive double posted
 

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Itachi has average chakra reserves, we have only seen him sick but so that's why most people assume they are low. What he does have is complete mastery of those techniques so insane chakra control meaning he can use all of those techniques with minimum chakra consumption
 

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Kimimaro had a worse sickness and 4.5 stamina. Itachi had a similar less debilitating sickness and 2.5 stamina. Nagato had much of his lifeforce sucked out by gedo, yet outdid naruto in stamina. ie. stamina and sickness aren't much related.

Itachi's stamina is quite low, but he is so efficient with his techniques that he can compensate for it. It's still a limiting factor vs shinobi with huge chakra reserves though
 

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Kimimaro had a worse sickness and 4.5 stamina. Itachi had a similar less debilitating sickness and 2.5 stamina. Nagato had much of his lifeforce sucked out by gedo, yet outdid naruto in stamina. ie. stamina and sickness aren't much related.

Itachi's stamina is quite low, but he is so efficient with his techniques that he can compensate for it. It's still a limiting factor vs shinobi with huge chakra reserves though
it must be because kimimaro is a tajutsu user and also his kekkei genkai jutsu don't have any risk like MS, while nagato well yeah the gedo mazo sucked his chakra but not all the time, let alone the fact that he was an uzumaki.

itachi stamina without sickness is average
 

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Itachi is probably that weak due to sickness.
But if he was healthy, I'd still say he was only slightly above-average.
I doubt he was anywhere near Raikage, Gai, or Kisame level when it came to stamina.

And I'm not quite too sure, but I don't think chakra = stamina. Maybe Itachi had powerful chakra with decent reserves, but using MS techniques just tired him too quickly.
 
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