Some people lack common sense...
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OP, you shouldve left this thread for me to create. If people knew the composition of chakra they'd know that illness affects it.
But this is what ill say.
Sssuke mastered the fireball technique at 7. In which Fugaki (sp) said itachi had mastered at an earlier age than sasuke. Obviously we dont know the exact age, but he mastered it alot younger than sasuke.
Now sasuke at 12 demonstrated this during his first meeting with kakashi and kakashi noted that a genin shouldnt have this much chakra for such a technique. If thats the case, id like to see his reaction to itachi demonstrating this at roughly 6 years old since thats around the time his father hinted that he was able to use it.
Now he activated the sharigan at 8. Obviously since he is an uchiha it would have little effect on his stamina, but it still did.
Now if you go back to the fight between danzo and sasuke, he talked both about amaterasu and tsukuyomi then said sasuke is indeed itachi's brother. This clearly hints that danzo has seen itachi use these techniques before. Now itachi slaughtered his clan at 12/13 and this is roughly the same time he activated the ms. If a 12/13 can use ms techniques that we all know takes up quiet a high chunk of chakra, itachi's chakra as a kid was roughly above normal for his age group. Sasuke commented after using susano v1 stage for the first time at 16/17, said that he cannot imagine how it felt for itachi, and itachi was alot younger than sasuke when he activated the ms.
Now this kimmamro issue is flawed. Just because he has a 4.5/5 for stamina can hint to many things. Firstly he has the cm2, that coudlve influenced his stamina. Next he was supposed to be oro's vessel, if thats the case he wouldve gone through abit of experiments no different to sasuke which couldve increased his stamina. Also note that 4.5/5 doesnt mean this was his original stamina. He couldve gained a 5/5, but his illness influenced this. Also dont not say an illness wouldnt have a 0.5 disadvantage, because that is also flawed, because he couldve had higher than a 5/5 for stamina but the max is capped at 5. Example sasori, hidan, kisame all have a 5/5 for stamina. If we were to estimate nagato would also have a 5/5 for stamina.
Now in the manga its already been established by nagato talking through deva path that kisame has the highest chakra in akatsuki. Therefore just because sasori and hidan also have a 5/5 for stamina doesnt mean they rival kisame, but rather the stat is capped at 5
But this is what ill say.
Sssuke mastered the fireball technique at 7. In which Fugaki (sp) said itachi had mastered at an earlier age than sasuke. Obviously we dont know the exact age, but he mastered it alot younger than sasuke.
Now sasuke at 12 demonstrated this during his first meeting with kakashi and kakashi noted that a genin shouldnt have this much chakra for such a technique. If thats the case, id like to see his reaction to itachi demonstrating this at roughly 6 years old since thats around the time his father hinted that he was able to use it.
Now he activated the sharigan at 8. Obviously since he is an uchiha it would have little effect on his stamina, but it still did.
Now if you go back to the fight between danzo and sasuke, he talked both about amaterasu and tsukuyomi then said sasuke is indeed itachi's brother. This clearly hints that danzo has seen itachi use these techniques before. Now itachi slaughtered his clan at 12/13 and this is roughly the same time he activated the ms. If a 12/13 can use ms techniques that we all know takes up quiet a high chunk of chakra, itachi's chakra as a kid was roughly above normal for his age group. Sasuke commented after using susano v1 stage for the first time at 16/17, said that he cannot imagine how it felt for itachi, and itachi was alot younger than sasuke when he activated the ms.
Now this kimmamro issue is flawed. Just because he has a 4.5/5 for stamina can hint to many things. Firstly he has the cm2, that coudlve influenced his stamina. Next he was supposed to be oro's vessel, if thats the case he wouldve gone through abit of experiments no different to sasuke which couldve increased his stamina. Also note that 4.5/5 doesnt mean this was his original stamina. He couldve gained a 5/5, but his illness influenced this. Also dont not say an illness wouldnt have a 0.5 disadvantage, because that is also flawed, because he couldve had higher than a 5/5 for stamina but the max is capped at 5. Example sasori, hidan, kisame all have a 5/5 for stamina. If we were to estimate nagato would also have a 5/5 for stamina.
Now in the manga its already been established by nagato talking through deva path that kisame has the highest chakra in akatsuki. Therefore just because sasori and hidan also have a 5/5 for stamina doesnt mean they rival kisame, but rather the stat is capped at 5
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Let's just say the "common sense" this Itachi fanboy wants to hear from everyone in short:
Itachi is the strongest.
Pretty sure that's the "common sense" ur talking about.
Itachi is the strongest.
Pretty sure that's the "common sense" ur talking about.
Karin did heal him, but did NOT heal Sasuke while he fought Raikage and Gaara.
Please, refrain from calling me names. Because I said in my previous post that Itachi has better stamina that people claim.
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I think their is one thing missing from all this "what about his chakra control?" look at kakashi because he's getting better at his control, he can control and use his MS easier and more then once, before putting him in the hospital. Although kakashi will NEVER be at an Uchiha level.
Now Itachi I seriously doubt has low chakra, he's a beast, but he is probably a master at controlling his ckakra, so moves that would usually require more chakra to control from a less experienced ninja may take a lot less from Itachi.
plus I bet his stamina was only low because like everyone said, he has a disease! Tobi even mentioned that if Itachi wanted to kill Sasuke, he has no doubt that Itachi could do it. To get a comment like that from tobi is a testament to Itachi skill, knowledge, and power.
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You're forgetting something here. He had Obito as partner and he also could perform such a technic at this age but Kakashi said he was still weak. I think Kakashi was only surprised because he underestimated Sasuke because he thought he was only an ordinar genin.
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Yes, but you're forgetting another thing. We don't even know if he used MS technics. He killed Uchiwas when they were sleeping very discretly. Maybe some had some resistant, but not all of them, and he had also Tobi as partner and maybe also Danzo because Tobi said they have meet each other during that time. I even doubt that at that time he could already do Susanoo or Amaterasu. If he had used Amaterasu, Sasuke should have noticed it because it burns during 7days long.
Also don't forget what happened to him in part1. He only used Tsukiyomi 2times, and 1Amaterasu and almost got out of chakra, and needed to take a rest, Kisame should carry him and stopped to use Sharingan.
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Yeah some of that people hardly pay close attention to things like that.
Tobi stated that the elder son was born with the sages powerful chakra
Amaterasu (data book)
itachi was shown to have a large chakra pool.
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If Amaterasu burns for 7 days 7 nights how much chakra doesn't use :shrug: the fight with sasuke he spammed the shit out of Amaterasu, used Tsukuyomi, a genjustu on naruto before that & a shadow clone, then another shadow clone for sasuke, used also a regular genjutsu agaisnt sasuke, 2 fire ball justu, susanoo, and was able to use the sword and shield while sick & dieing xd . Haters gonna hate bro
itachi was shown to have a large chakra pool.
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I would agree if it already wasnt stated itachi had less then average amount of chakra and if kakashi was an uchiha
i think he has high chakra, but less than e.g. sasuke or the real high chakra-chars like naruto, kb, kisame, a ...
idk how much chakra genjutsu use, but i got the feeling that it doesnt take so much from the body but more from the eyes. itachi and sasuke kinda spam it through their fight and at least with sasuke's tsukuyomi i highly doubt that it takes a lot of chakra. amaterasu was said to consume much chakra, but e.g. sasuke spammed it against raikage and especially gaara. same goes for susano'o.
if you compare the jutsus sasuke used against danzo and the jutsus itachi used against sasuke, it's pretty clear that sasuke has more chakra.
idk how much chakra genjutsu use, but i got the feeling that it doesnt take so much from the body but more from the eyes. itachi and sasuke kinda spam it through their fight and at least with sasuke's tsukuyomi i highly doubt that it takes a lot of chakra. amaterasu was said to consume much chakra, but e.g. sasuke spammed it against raikage and especially gaara. same goes for susano'o.
if you compare the jutsus sasuke used against danzo and the jutsus itachi used against sasuke, it's pretty clear that sasuke has more chakra.
No, you did also forget that sasuke has been healed prior to his fight with danzo. And you may also have forgotten that itachi got tanked by a full kirin head on and sealed oro at the same time. One more thing, the man was coughing up blood during his fight for gods sake. He was already dying from his SICKNESS.:sy:
