SO6P + Rinnegan Theory

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Ok, so we all know
SO6P=Senju + Uchiha--> Rinnegan

To obtain the Rinnegan you need Senju + Uchiha DNA.
Madara (Obtained hashiramas dna) Tobi (has white zetsu in him) SO6P (obviously has both) and then there is nagato... I believe that the Uzumaki are the Senju and Uchiha combined. Whether Nagato awakened the Rinnegan or Tobi really gave it to him this explains why he could control it so good. This would make the SO6P an Uzumaki.

Reasons this makes sense
1. He had the crazy amount of Chakra to be able to be the Juubi Jinchuuriki
2. He possessed the knowledge of Sealing to seal it inside himself (Uzumaki trait)
3. The main characteristic of an Uzumaki is red hair. Kishi could perhaps only be showing us his silhouette so we are surprised when we finally see the sage being a red haired Uzumaki.

So to sum it all up, To obtain the Rinnegan you need to have Senju and Uchiha DNA, which is what Uzumaki are and the SO6P was Uzumaki.
Let me know what you think
 

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well we're not sure yet, most people think the sage was blonde-haired like naruto
 

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1. Noone knows whether you need Senju + Uchiha dna to get Rinnegan. It hasn't been stated.
2. Tobi took his Rinnegan from Nagato after he died
3. Madara gave Nagato his Rinnegan
4. Uzamaki are relatives of the Senju clan, nothing more
 
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1. Noone knows whether you need Senju + Uchiha dna to get Rinnegan. It hasn't been stated.
2. Tobi took his Rinnegan from Nagato after he died
3. Madara (or Tobi) gave Nagato his Rinnegan
4. Uzamaki are relatives of the Senju clan, nothing more
5. SO6P wasn't Uzumaki
u cant say for sure yet. they throw in twists
 

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1. this has been brought countless of times if you need senju and uciha dna to get rinnegan so you said nothing new.

2.its not positive that you need it so.. yea
 

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1. Noone knows whether you need Senju + Uchiha dna to get Rinnegan. It hasn't been stated.
2. Tobi took his Rinnegan from Nagato after he died
3. Madara (or Tobi) gave Nagato his Rinnegan
4. Uzamaki are relatives of the Senju clan, nothing more
5. SO6P wasn't Uzumaki

Number 1 was part of my theory. Everyone who had the Rinnegan had Senju + Uchiha dna. If the Uzumaki were senju + Uchiha it makes sense why nagato controlled it so well.
 

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Number 1 was part of my theory. Everyone who had the Rinnegan had Senju + Uchiha dna. If the Uzumaki were senju + Uchiha it makes sense why nagato controlled it so well.

The only person who unlocked Rinnegan (didn't have it transplanted) was Madara. And we don't know for sure if he managed to get Hashirama's dna. Plus, he unlocked Rinnegan way after his fight with Hashirama.
Nagato controlled it well because he had near enough his whole life to practice with it. Kakashi isn't a Uchiha but he is good with the Sharingan.
 

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i applaud you but missing some loose ends here
 

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The only person who unlocked Rinnegan (didn't have it transplanted) was Madara. And we don't know for sure if he managed to get Hashirama's dna. Plus, he unlocked Rinnegan way after his fight with Hashirama.
Nagato controlled it well because he had near enough his whole life to practice with it. Kakashi isn't a Uchiha but he is good with the Sharingan.

By this you're implying the SO6P did not unlock it. We don't know for sure Tobi gave nagato rinnegan, the only one who says he did was Tobi and tobi is a stinking liar... he only rambled on and on for like 50 episodes about how he was Madara
 

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u cant say for sure yet. they throw in twists

Yeh, that is true. But it would be weird if they suddenly said Uzumaki is Uchiha + Senju after they said Uzumaki are relatives of the Senju. If that was the case then in theory the Uzumaki clan should have been the strongest clan... by far.
 

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Yeh, that is true. But it would be weird if they suddenly said Uzumaki is Uchiha + Senju after they said Uzumaki are relatives of the Senju. If that was the case then in theory the Uzumaki clan should have been the strongest clan... by far.

They could be the strongest clan.
Senju- 1 remaining member
Uchiha- 1 remaining member (possibly 2 if tobi is an uchiha)
Uzumaki- at least 2 remaining members

Remember though, Kishi hyped up Hiruzen as the strongest kage before he decided to make it seem as Hashirama was. He could have done the same for the clans
 

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By this you're implying the SO6P did not unlock it. We don't know for sure Tobi gave nagato rinnegan, the only one who says he did was Tobi and tobi is a stinking liar... he only rambled on and on for like 50 episodes about how he was Madara

I mean apart from the SO6P, Madara was the only one to unlock the Rinnegan.
Tobi (whilst he was still posing as Madara) said he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Next, we see Madara (who knows Nagato) activate the Rinnegan. He say's "so that brat Nagato has finally grown", which means he knew Nagato at a young age. Before, Tobi (whilst still posing as Madara) said "that jutsu (Rinne Tensei) was meant for me", talking about Nagato. We then find out Madara was expected to be revived (most likely via Rinne Tensei) whilst he mentions Nagato. It should be pretty obvious that Madara gave Nagato his Rinnegan after all of that.
 
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Ok, so we all know
SO6P=Senju + Uchiha--> Rinnegan

To obtain the Rinnegan you need Senju + Uchiha DNA.
Madara (Obtained hashiramas dna) Tobi (has white zetsu in him) SO6P (obviously has both) and then there is nagato... I believe that the Uzumaki are the Senju and Uchiha combined. Whether Nagato awakened the Rinnegan or Tobi really gave it to him this explains why he could control it so good. This would make the SO6P an Uzumaki.

Reasons this makes sense
1. He had the crazy amount of Chakra to be able to be the Juubi Jinchuuriki
2. He possessed the knowledge of Sealing to seal it inside himself (Uzumaki trait)
3. The main characteristic of an Uzumaki is red hair. Kishi could perhaps only be showing us his silhouette so we are surprised when we finally see the sage being a red haired Uzumaki.

So to sum it all up, To obtain the Rinnegan you need to have Senju and Uchiha DNA, which is what Uzumaki are and the SO6P was Uzumaki.
Let me know what you think

i thought the same a while back but more like
the so6p is uzumaki, so his original descendants are uzumaki.
after becoming the juubi host, he made the older and younger brother.
(uchiha and senju) and passed on portions of the power the juubi gave him through them.
(hence how the sharingan came to be, a way lesser form of the juubi's eye, or the "sharinnengan" as its been called.)

but anyways, nice thread. +rep
 

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They could be the strongest clan.
Senju- 1 remaining member
Uchiha- 1 remaining member (possibly 2 if tobi is an uchiha)
Uzumaki- at least 2 remaining members

Remember though, Kishi hyped up Hiruzen as the strongest kage before he decided to make it seem as Hashirama was. He could have done the same for the clans

Just because they have more member alive now, doesn't mean they are a stronger clan... Senju and Uchiha were said to be the top 2 clans during their time. The only hype for Uzumaki is their sealing abilities and their longevity.
Kishi hasn't said Hashirama was the strongest Hokage, so Hiruzen is still at least tied with him.
 

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I don't know guys I find most of this speculation since we don't know much about SO6P and Kabuto said the Rinnegan is NATURAL but every thread I see says Senju+Uchiha=Rinnegan so I'm confused.
 

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They could be the strongest clan.
Senju- 1 remaining member
Uchiha- 1 remaining member (possibly 2 if tobi is an uchiha)
Uzumaki- at least 2 remaining members

Remember though, Kishi hyped up Hiruzen as the strongest kage before he decided to make it seem as Hashirama was. He could have done the same for the clans

Uzumaki and Senju clans could have more people though they just haven't been introduced because unlike the Uchiha their entire clan wasn't wiped out. It's very unlikely after they made Konoha they just disappeared and Hashirama and Tobirama were suddenly the last Senju. Also, Uzumaki's weren't yet introduced to the story line in Part 1. The only thing we knew was Naruto was an Uzumaki.
 

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Uzumakis and Senjus both have a huge life force and physical energy. That's why he was able to use the rinnegans. Nagato lacked Uchiha blood to master them completely.
 
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