So who do you think is eviler

[David Walker]

1) So wht if their goals are different ?
2) kaname tousen,yammy <Didn't know which character u wanted named so i picked one Hollow and shinigami
3) How is it a good thing for the soul society to be spying on him. Hollows are smart they wont even go as close to Ichigo because his reiatsu is huge.
4) If the soul society was not spying and suppressing Ginjous powers he would not hav turned against them or evil ( They could hav just left him alone) this led to his fullbring group which involved the attacked on his friends and himself all this would not hav happend if the soul society did not spy on Ginjou (I know im going in to to much depth ^ If all this didn't happen there wont be a fullbring arc ^ but thats what makes it interesting.)

point 3 mate. youve got that back to front.

firstly low level hollows are stupid. only a small small fraction have any modicum of intellect.

secondly, hollows are attracted to humans with spiritual pressure.makes them stronger if they consume it. suggest you re-read episode 1 which shows this as the hollow was hunting ichigo...

also with regards to point 4. spying on and showing distrust in someone... turns you evil... say what ?!?!?! bit of a lame plot device if you think thats what happened.

 

[lubricati0n]

point 3 mate. youve got that back to front.

firstly low level hollows are stupid. only a small small fraction have any modicum of intellect.

secondly, hollows are attracted to humans with spiritual pressure.makes them stronger if they consume it. suggest you re-read episode 1 which shows this as the hollow was hunting ichigo...

also with regards to point 4. spying on and showing distrust in someone... turns you evil... say what ?!?!?! bit of a lame plot device if you think thats what happened.

Your last sentence is totally what I wanted to say

 

[Manzai]

Aizen is evil itself........

 

[Acnologia..]

You are too stubborn.

1) IS Surveillance as evil as destroying karakura town for the kings key to take over soul society?

2) Tousen thought he was doing it for justice. Yammy is too stupid(compared to the other espada) and probably easily convinced by Aizen. These guys are pawns compared to Aizen.

3) BRO, Ichigo's Reiatsu was large before he became shinigami. It was so large it blocked off Rukia's sensory that why she couldn't detect the hollow.

4) You give your theories with no back-up evidence. He became evil because Soul Society is "spying" on him. What part of spying made him evil?

Remember this: Sub shinigami are not CLOSELY related to Soul Society. Someone who's as strong as Ichigo/Ginjou should be monitored and suppressed because they can easily rebel and cause chaos. Soul Society is suppose to be "heaven" for any souls sent there.

lol how am i stubborn im just trying to say it may happen

1) People only say surveillance when he was also suppressing Ichigo and Ginjou's powers. These was no need for Ichigo to be surveillance he was good he never did any thing bad (when ichigo heard that the soul society didn't trust him he got mad so y wouldn't Ginjou get mad and go off creating a group of fullbrings).

(and whts stopping Ichigo from raging i got this idea when i saw this quote)

I just hope he doesn't do a Sasuke

2)Ok ill giv u that one Yammy's stupid but how about Harribel , Coyote Starrk ,Ulquiorra Cifer and Nnoitra Gilga <Aizan did not threaten any on of these espada like Baraggan.

3)im not talking about Rukias sensors. I said hollows won't go near reiatsu as big as ichigo's.

4) Well would you like people spying and suppressing your powers. (Since Ichigo got angry when hearing the truth).

I don't know about Ginjous past but Ichigo saved the soul society from Aizen so yet they still didn't trust him. this part made me laugh how is the soul society ''heaven'' their rules are so stupid for example they tried to execute Rukia for giving soul reaper powers to Ichigo one person. Aizen was sentenced to 18 800 years in jail Aizen should be sentenced execution not Rukia.

point 3 mate. youve got that back to front.

firstly low level hollows are stupid. only a small small fraction have any modicum of intellect.

secondly, hollows are attracted to humans with spiritual pressure.makes them stronger if they consume it. suggest you re-read episode 1 which shows this as the hollow was hunting ichigo...

also with regards to point 4. spying on and showing distrust in someone... turns you evil... say what ?!?!?! bit of a lame plot device if you think thats what happened.

If a hollow is smart enough to talk it has intelligence (Grand fisher a low ranking hollow could talk and was smart) Adjuchas < these hollows are smarter than regular hollows. Gillians are the dumb hollows except for a few that evolve into Adjuchas. Vasto Lorde smartest and strongest hollows.

For your last point read my 1st one ^

 

[lubricati0n]

lol how am i stubborn im just trying to say it may happen

1) People only say surveillance when he was also suppressing Ichigo and Ginjou's powers. These was no need for Ichigo to be surveillance he was good he never did any thing bad (when ichigo heard that the soul society didn't trust him he got mad so y wouldn't Ginjou get mad and go off creating a group of fullbrings).

(and whts stopping Ichigo from raging i got this idea when i saw this quote)



2)Ok ill giv u that one Yammy's stupid but how about Harribel , Coyote Starrk ,Ulquiorra Cifer and Nnoitra Gilga <Aizan did not threaten any on of these espada like Baraggan.

3)im not talking about Rukias sensors. I said hollows won't go near reiatsu as big as ichigo's.

4) Well would you like people spying and suppressing your powers. (Since Ichigo got angry when hearing the truth).

I don't know about Ginjous past but Ichigo saved the soul society from Aizen so yet they still didn't trust him. this part made me laugh how is the soul society ''heaven'' their rules are so stupid for example they tried to execute Rukia for giving soul reaper powers to Ichigo one person. Aizen was sentenced to 18 800 years in jail Aizen should be sentenced execution not Rukia.



If a hollow is smart enough to talk it has intelligence (Grand fisher a low ranking hollow could talk and was smart) Adjuchas < these hollows are smarter than regular hollows. Gillians are the dumb hollows except for a few that evolve into Adjuchas. Vasto Lorde smartest and strongest hollows.

For your last point read my 1st one ^

You don't get my point man.

I already said this before but I'll say it again.

1)Ichigo only had his power suppressed when he was in human form. And like the other guy says a large reiatsu attracts hollow so it's actually a positive thing to have Ichigo's reiatsu suppressed. Like the other guy said hollows are attracted to reiatsu. Ichigo in human form + HUGE reiatsu = lots of hollows = dead humans.

2) They aren't evil. They were just persuaded.
-Starrk: He was only looking for stronger allies.
-Ulquiorra: We don't know anything about his backstory.
-Nnoitora: All he wanted was to be stronger, and he probably got that by joining Aizen.

3) I wasn't talking about Rukia's sensing either. You don't get this point as well. I said Ichigo's reiatsu was huge before he became shinigami. The reiatsu attracted that hollow. The reiatsu was also big enough to block Rukia's sensing.

4) No, but I wouldn't mind. Technically Ichigo is an outsider so in order to protect Soul Society it's necessary. And btw Ichigo is not angry, tbh I reckon he doesn't really care about what Ginjou said. This is because Ichigo has gaiend the respect of probably all the captains and VC's, especially Rukia.

Man do you read the right manga >_>
Ichigo was given his badge after saving Rukia. Ichigo defeating Aizen and saving Soul Society already gained the respect of the Captain Commander. There is a big time gap between both events. How do you know they didn't trust him?

Btw Aizen is immortal, he can't be executed.

The Grand Fisher became an Arrancer. An Arrancar gains intelligence. A normal hollow doesn't speak.

 

[protentiality]

Ukitake's not evil

 

[Acnologia..]

Ukitake's not evil

Then tell me who the next enemy after Ginjou is

 

[Jupiter]

Ukitake isn't evil lol It's not because Ginjo said something bad about him that it's completely true; Urahara is on his way to Ichigo I hope everything gets clear next chap.

But most evil is Aizen I guess...

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

pedo bear

 

[NLee]

Then tell me who the next enemy after Ginjou is

A new character.

 

[Acnologia..]

But Ukitake looks so evil here Jks

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